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Eers
« on: January 17, 2014, 09:18:15 AM »


As we prepare for another Huggins return to the OOD, be prepared for a slightly different variation of his typical WVU teams. This group of Mountaineers is stronger on offense than defense, especially shooting the ball, and features the best 3PT shooting of any Huggins team since he was at Cincinnati. A couple more uncharacteristic traits for this team are that they are above average (way above average actually) at protecting the ball, but below average at rebounding their own misses. His teams generally turn the ball over at a rate near 20%, but this one is under 14% for the season and has maintained that rate against good teams. However, this is his worst offensive rebounding team in over a decade and this team has been awful on the oboards against better competition. Defensively WVU is good at forcing turnovers, but pretty average at everything else. Its notable that WVU's best win is in Lubbock and against quality competition the defense has been well below the Huggins standard and the only one of the four factors they have gained an edge in is forcing turnovers.

Meanwhile, the Cats have 5 quality wins (according to kenpom), but have been awful in their two losses to Georgetown and KU which skews the numbers quite a bit. Still, K-State has consistently been solid at oboarding and (surprisingly) getting the the FT line. In the 5 wins against Top 100 kenpom teams the Cats have the edge in all 4 factors.

Huggins' team this year features a very good PG in Staten who is a distributor that can get to the rim and score (17 PPG), but is not a shooter (only 11 3PT attempts). However, there are 5 other players that have shot over 50 3PT attempts and all of them are hitting .357 or better. WVU's biggest threat is Eron Harris who is one of the league's best scorers (17 PPG, top 5 in PTs per 40) and hitting 40% on 3s (over 100 attempts). Henderson is WVU's 3rd scorer who shoots decent (12 PPG) and scores well in the paint. The best big and best rebounder is Williams (scores nearly 10 PPG) and the FR will be an interesting match-up for Gip. Dibo is a 6-7 shooter and decent rebounder to round out their starting 5. Brown is their best guard off the bench and a decent shooter and Adrian is their best big off the bench and another big that likes to shoot 3s.

This Huggins team is decent, but young and still learning to play defense. I think they'll have trouble in Manhattan and this should be a game K-State wins. While a grinder (low possession, both teams <1.0 PPP) wouldn't be a complete surprise, I think the Cats have a good day on 2PTs and 3PTs for their best offense of the Big 12 at around 1.15 ppp.

Cats 75 - Eers 66



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Re: Eers
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 09:20:07 AM »
STTB!  :Woot:

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 09:22:09 AM »
Is he changing his coaching style or is it just a not very Hugginsy roster?

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 09:34:37 AM »
Cats 75 72 - Eers 66

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 09:59:52 AM »
Is he changing his coaching style or is it just a not very Hugginsy roster?

I think its just a young team still figuring out how he wants to defend and rebound.

Staten plays A LOT, more than any other player in the Big 12 and the only player over 90% minutes available. He and Harris are the keys to this team. Besides KU, teams have been shooting well under their average (at least 5% eFG%) against us lately and I expect that to continue. With our ability on the boards I think this game won't be as close as OU and we shouldn't have to overcome a deficit in the last 10 minutes.

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 10:16:14 AM »
CATS by 5.

carbon copy of OU game.

we wont turn it over as much but they will score easier.

131 will throw us.

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 10:41:19 AM »
Huggings coaching tree has all suffered from the freedom of movement with their defensive efficiently.


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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 10:57:14 AM »
Huggings coaching tree has all suffered from the freedom of movement with their defensive efficiently.
in addition to Frank, who else would you consider part of his tree?  I guess Undy, Cronin and Kennedy, anybody else?

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 12:50:59 PM »
I really hope Huggy Bear "Blows up" and turns red from screaming so much then gets ejected to send a message to his team even though they are down 14 with 5 minutes left.

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2014, 01:04:32 PM »
Who is the WV player who cried in Bramlage last year?

I hope the crowd reminds him of that tomorrow.  Baby.

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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2014, 01:20:06 PM »
After we win, we're still gonna give Huggy a standing O for breathing life back into our favorite hobby sport (sorry Bat Cats), right?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2014, 01:58:59 PM »
We need a some type of "Bob Huggins has a fat face" chant
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2014, 02:23:19 PM »
they are going to chuck an insane # of threes.  Book it.

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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 02:29:39 PM »
they are going to chuck an insane # of threes.  Book it.

Hey, I was about to go drop off a deposit.  Should I take that with me?

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 09:09:29 PM »
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75 Cats - 66 Eers

Wish you had formated it like that. 66 'Eers sounds like a real good team.

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Re: Eers
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 08:59:38 AM »
Cats won't score more than 72. Wildcats 72 Hillbillies 65

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 11:08:32 AM »
Cats won't score more than 72. Wildcats 72 Hillbillies 65

STTB!  :ksu:

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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014, 03:10:27 PM »
Wow, what a yawner.

But that Thomas to Foster dunk  :emawkid:

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 05:16:46 PM »
I thought it was pretty entertaining.   :dunno:
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2014, 08:41:47 AM »
Wow, what a yawner.

But that Thomas to Foster dunk  :emawkid:

I skipped the yawn and need to watch the 2nd half today.

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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2014, 09:51:37 AM »
Cats won't score more than 72. Wildcats 72 Hillbillies 65

STTB!  :ksu:
I don't know what STTB means, but I'm glad I was wrong about the score. This was one of the most balanced games I have seen the Cats play in the OOD.

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2014, 04:23:13 PM »
Cats won't score more than 72. Wildcats 72 Hillbillies 65

STTB!  :ksu:
I don't know what STTB means, but I'm glad I was wrong about the score. This was one of the most balanced games I have seen the Cats play in the OOD.
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2014, 01:27:36 PM »
Updated advanced stats comparison, including WVU's record vs Top 100 teams at home.



We know what we did against this team last time and we know that WVU is a decent team, but let's keep in mind that all of WVU's Big 12 wins have come against the worst 3 teams in the league. You can look back through this thread to see the match-ups and our last game was recent enough that not much has changed.

No doubt, WVU can beat us in Morgantown and the Cats will have to come to play. I don't expect the Cats to route the Eers like they did in Manhattan, but if the Cats simply give a similar effort to how they played in Austin or Ames they should win this game.

I expect them to do just that.

Cats 72 - Eers 68

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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2014, 01:37:21 PM »
_Fan = BITB

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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2014, 01:56:14 PM »
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great stuff as always _FAN