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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2014, 08:20:04 AM »
Learn to play one song really, really well and only practice that one song (sweet home alabama).  And then whenever there is a guitar around just start jamming on that one song and when people ask you to play something else just act all embarrassed and stuff and put it down and people will think you are really good and can play tons of songs.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2014, 08:52:25 PM »
So, update on my learning guitar. I'm shredding Wonderwall by Oasis now and started learning Even if It Breaks Your Heart by the Eli Young Band the other day. I've pretty much been slaying bitches with this thing.
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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2014, 08:59:50 PM »
So, update on my learning guitar. I'm shredding Wonderwall by Oasis now and started learning Even if It Breaks Your Heart by the Eli Young Band the other day. I've pretty much been slaying bitches with this thing.

Insert the name of a babe into Wonderwall.

"So maybe...... Alison's the one who'll save me...... And after all, Alison's my Wonderwall...."

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2014, 11:51:09 PM »
are we at lucas shredsalot level yet?

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 11:57:22 PM »
Dr. Jack got my guitar out of Trim's Stuff.  They should start a band.  And a thread to name the band.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2014, 04:35:45 PM »
The guitar from Trim's stuff has opened my world. Naturally I started trying to learn the most popular reggae chords first. I've slowly learned six now, picking the guitar up when I drunkenly pass by and it's been quite enjoyable.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2025, 09:30:20 AM »
man, so many good threads to bump it was hard to choose which one.

ANYWAY here's my sitch. I'm kinda hitting a point where i'm getting a little frustrated. The songs I've been practicing the most i haven't been making much progress and its discouraging. A couple of examples, the (second, longer) solo from My Sharona. The solo at the end of Black Dog.

my instructor gave me some good advice he says to me he says "i know you're frustrated but its important to remember that you actually do know how to play the guitar, you should just bring in a couple songs that are a little easier" and he suggested Mother by Pink Floyd (absolutely beautiful solo, btw)

so anyway, i'm soliciting recommendos on songs i should learn that are a little more mid level (unless you think the songs i've mentioned above are mid level, in which case beginner level).  i realize i probably should have just pm'd mocat and/or spracs (is he still here? i miss that dude) but i'm also curious the suggestions from folks on this blog who like music but don't necessarily know whether or not its technically challenging to play.

if it matters, i'm married and almost 40, so like, droppin panties isn't the top priority here. Don't get me wrong if its a panty dropper that's outstanding, but my objective here is to push through this rut and to start feeling like i'm making gains. No genres off limits. Would prefer stuff that isn't strictly acoustic, mostly b/c in the last year i bought a couple hot POA Gibson Les Paul solid body electrics and they are set up real nice by a professional luthier and my acoustic is old and cheap and most definitely needs the strings changed and i don't feel like messing with any of that right now.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2025, 09:46:52 AM »
man, so many good threads to bump it was hard to choose which one.

ANYWAY here's my sitch. I'm kinda hitting a point where i'm getting a little frustrated. The songs I've been practicing the most i haven't been making much progress and its discouraging. A couple of examples, the (second, longer) solo from My Sharona. The solo at the end of Black Dog.

my instructor gave me some good advice he says to me he says "i know you're frustrated but its important to remember that you actually do know how to play the guitar, you should just bring in a couple songs that are a little easier" and he suggested Mother by Pink Floyd (absolutely beautiful solo, btw)

so anyway, i'm soliciting recommendos on songs i should learn that are a little more mid level (unless you think the songs i've mentioned above are mid level, in which case beginner level).  i realize i probably should have just pm'd mocat and/or spracs (is he still here? i miss that dude) but i'm also curious the suggestions from folks on this blog who like music but don't necessarily know whether or not its technically challenging to play.

if it matters, i'm married and almost 40, so like, droppin panties isn't the top priority here. Don't get me wrong if its a panty dropper that's outstanding, but my objective here is to push through this rut and to start feeling like i'm making gains. No genres off limits. Would prefer stuff that isn't strictly acoustic, mostly b/c in the last year i bought a couple hot POA Gibson Les Paul solid body electrics and they are set up real nice by a professional luthier and my acoustic is old and cheap and most definitely needs the strings changed and i don't feel like messing with any of that right now.

TIA, fellow rockers and music-enjoyers!

Can't help you but am curious. I've been saying for like 3 years that i'm going to go to a music store and buy a guitar and try and teach myself. Probably just an acoustic and learn some songs. Mainly a "I am about to stab everything in the winter" type thing. Just something to do and feed my brain a bit. I have never played and don't know how to read music. Is this a terrible idea? I'm not opposed to taking a lesson, but i'm wondering how much harder it will be to learn from online/youtube classes coming from scratch. If it wasn't obvious, i'm not trying to get a gig at a coffee shop or anything, just a new project to attach and connect some neurons.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2025, 09:57:47 AM »
jimmy page solos are tough to categorize because they sound like expert mode, but the guy was a pretty sloppy player; have you tried just diming every knob?   :D
that said, i'm not much of a lead player; are you only looking for solos/lead parts to learn, or songs in general?

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2025, 10:00:36 AM »
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2025, 10:10:28 AM »
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!

Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.

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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2025, 10:21:44 AM »
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!

Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.

if your fingers are unable to make chord shapes and it ends up not going anywhere, you will have lost nothing and gained a new life experience. and maybe one of your kids or spouse or friend picks it up and takes a liking to it.

also as another encouragement, you absolutely do not have to know how to read music, and i would say the majority of guitar players are self-taught. and while of course there are certain techniques you can learn, there is no right or wrong way to play. you just do what sounds good to your own ears.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2025, 11:12:42 AM »
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!

Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.

if your fingers are unable to make chord shapes and it ends up not going anywhere, you will have lost nothing and gained a new life experience. and maybe one of your kids or spouse or friend picks it up and takes a liking to it.

also as another encouragement, you absolutely do not have to know how to read music, and i would say the majority of guitar players are self-taught. and while of course there are certain techniques you can learn, there is no right or wrong way to play. you just do what sounds good to your own ears.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2025, 11:19:27 AM »
jimmy page solos are tough to categorize because they sound like expert mode, but the guy was a pretty sloppy player; have you tried just diming every knob?   :D
that said, i'm not much of a lead player; are you only looking for solos/lead parts to learn, or songs in general?

I suppose up until this past summer, like 99% of my guitar playing has been rhythm. I sucked (still do, honestly) at soloing, or just like, improvising in general. So that's sort of been my focus. Leaning more into playing lead, hopefully picking up some habits/recognizing some common patterns that make for an ass kicking solo or just being the guy that makes the jam sesh 1000% more fun for everyone.

when it comes to songs that don't have solos (or at least nothing more than a lick here and there, as a treat) i've been trying to figure out how to play those songs by ear, just as a way of becoming a better guitar player and also developing that muscle of recognizing what the I, IV, V chords are in a song. I'm finding this works fine for songs where its just major and minor chords. No chance in hell i can just pick out a suspended 4th or diminished 7th or whatever by ear. at least not at this point.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2025, 11:31:32 AM »
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!

Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.

I have found that for like, 90% of songs you'd ever want to listen to...there is a beginner/intermediate/expert way of playing that song, which definitely lowers the barrier to entry. A great example would be Can't You See by Marshall Tucker Band. Like for real you could be playing that song prettayyy....prettay goood by the end of your first day ever holding a guitar if someone showed you how to position your hand.

that is a song that if i tried to play it technically correct right now i would fail miserably b/c there are a lot of individually plucked notes, but someone who just kinda knows that song from hearing it on the radio isn't going to pick up on it b/c they haven't listened to it a billion times on repeat trying to learn how to play it.

Not to mention...once you learn one of those "campfire songs" like, just a fairly simple song and its a crowd pleaser...makes it very easy to want to keep going with it!

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2025, 11:53:34 AM »
jimmy page solos are tough to categorize because they sound like expert mode, but the guy was a pretty sloppy player; have you tried just diming every knob?   :D
that said, i'm not much of a lead player; are you only looking for solos/lead parts to learn, or songs in general?

I suppose up until this past summer, like 99% of my guitar playing has been rhythm. I sucked (still do, honestly) at soloing, or just like, improvising in general. So that's sort of been my focus. Leaning more into playing lead, hopefully picking up some habits/recognizing some common patterns that make for an ass kicking solo or just being the guy that makes the jam sesh 1000% more fun for everyone.

when it comes to songs that don't have solos (or at least nothing more than a lick here and there, as a treat) i've been trying to figure out how to play those songs by ear, just as a way of becoming a better guitar player and also developing that muscle of recognizing what the I, IV, V chords are in a song. I'm finding this works fine for songs where its just major and minor chords. No chance in hell i can just pick out a suspended 4th or diminished 7th or whatever by ear. at least not at this point.

same. i've been just playing at home, learning songs, whatever, for like 15+ years. no music theory background, can't read music, etc. anyway not too long ago i mentioned to a guitar tech at GC that i felt like my playing was sort of plateauing, and that i was interested in taking some lessons. he asked how often i practice scales. i sort of looked at him blankly. he said, ok yeah go ahead and learn a couple of scales ("you rough ridin' idiot" was implied but left unsaid). so i went home and learned the major scale "box" just from a single diagram, and since then it's like the instrument has been unlocked. i can improvise over any song like almost immediately, it's f'ing nuts. i'm still not great at solo techniques, mind you, but still. being able to improvise confidently is crazy. now i'm dabbling in minor, pentatonic, "gypsy jazz" scales, etc. it's bananas. i also feel dumb for waiting so long.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2025, 12:48:20 PM »
is gypsy jazz another name for a dorian scale?

b/c like, funny story, i think you and i are in very similar situations. self taught, no music theory background, etc. so since ive been hitting a wall, my mindset was like okay i'm just going to listen for any songs that sound interesting and on the 80s channel i hear Weird Science by Oingo Boingo. Not really a guitar song, but it has some tasty licks that sound fun. So i try to look it up and can't really find much in the way of tabs for it (UltimateGuitar) other than i know its in B.

so alright i've got it playing on loop and i'm just messin around with it and okay i got this box where the notes sound more or less like they belong so i'm trying some of the different CAGED scale patterns and nothing is sounding quite right, so at my lesson this week i tell my instructor and i'm like should i be doing a major or minor scale or like, some secret 3rd thing? and he puts it on and he's like this sounds like a dorian scale.

and b/c he's really good he just starts improving right there and ofcourse it fits perfectly. 3 days ago, i'd never even heard the term dorian scale. it is my understanding that this pattern is frequently used in jazz.

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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2025, 01:30:05 PM »
gypsy jazz scale is kind of outside of traditional western music scales. if you ever listened to django reinhardt, that's it. or like, the theme that repeats throughout woody allen's Midnight in Paris (Bistro Fada, by stephane wrembrel).

i'm going to be out over my skis a bit here but dorian scale (or dorian mode) is one of the seven diatonic (7-note) scales/modes in modern western music. it's actually the same as the typical "minor" scale but has a sharp 6th. it's rare but not unheard of in modern pop music; i'm sure it's more common in jazz.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2025, 02:01:41 PM »
i got my wife an acoustic guitar for christmas and she realized she couldn't play it because of her nails so i started playing it.  i learned a few chords.  it's been fun.


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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2025, 02:45:25 PM »
i got my wife an acoustic guitar for christmas and she realized she couldn't play it because of her nails so i started playing it.  i learned a few chords.  it's been fun.
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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2025, 05:40:22 PM »
Adding island in the stream to the set list.

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Re: Interested in Learning To Play Guitar
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2025, 09:31:04 AM »
Adding island in the stream to the set list.

Worst Bee Gees song ever.

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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2025, 09:42:24 AM »
Adding island in the stream to the set list.

Worst Bee Gees song ever.
There are way worse and you know it.

Sidenote I've been playing how deep is your love. The chorus has some unbelievable chords. Gmaj7 to Gm6? Divine. Am/C to B7 is diabolical, and while the B7 holds an extra bar, you can walk down the bass with G and F# just in time to land the next chord Em7, before going back again to the Gm6. Unreal

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« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2025, 10:09:40 AM »
Adding island in the stream to the set list.

Worst Bee Gees song ever.
There are way worse and you know it.

Sidenote I've been playing how deep is your love. The chorus has some unbelievable chords. Gmaj7 to Gm6? Divine. Am/C to B7 is diabolical, and while the B7 holds an extra bar, you can walk down the bass with G and F# just in time to land the next chord Em7, before going back again to the Gm6. Unreal

It's not in the top 20.

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