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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2014, 10:01:04 AM »
we haven't done any thunderstruck material recently have we?  :confused:

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« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2014, 10:03:15 AM »

Foster with a redemption game tomorrow night finishing with 20+?? What are the odds?

40/60

More like 70/30. JMHO.

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« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2014, 10:03:56 AM »
we haven't done any thunderstruck material recently have we?  :confused:

and it's a damn shame

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2014, 10:06:09 AM »
can you imagine a thunderstruck / sandstorm mashup? wow

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« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2014, 10:15:38 AM »
gE BITB and everyone knows it.

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« Reply #84 on: February 10, 2014, 10:48:53 AM »
I may be getting myself way to pumped up for tonight, but I can't help it!!!  :ksu:  :excited:  :Woohoo:


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« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2014, 10:49:15 AM »
can you imagine a thunderstruck / sandstorm mashup? wow

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« Reply #86 on: February 10, 2014, 11:07:20 AM »

Foster with a redemption game tomorrow night finishing with 20+?? What are the odds?

40/60

More like 70/30. JMHO.

 :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

No reason for :horrorsurprise:, I have some logic behind my thoughts.

First, Foster has been good at home. He's hitting 50% from 2, 42% from 3, and 70% on FTs in the OOD. Scoring 16 points per game, but more importantly 35 points per 100 possessions he's on the floor. Also around 4 boards and 3 assists per game.

Second, he's been even better in Big 12 play at home (outside of the Tech game). Even with the Tech game included he's hitting 62% on 2s, 48% on 3s, and 67% on FTs. 17.2 points per game and more impressively 42 points per 100 possessions. About the same on boards and assists.

Third, he's been through playing poorly on the road and great at home against the same opponent as we saw Saturday. He was terrible in Austin (1-6 on 3s, 3-12 overall, 8 points, 19 points/100 poss), but rebounded with a great game Saturday. His numbers in Lawrence were similar to the numbers in Austin. I'm not saying he's going to score 34 points at a rate of 70+ points per 100 possessions like he did vs Texas, but I think its likely he plays well, scores at a rate in the 30s/per 100 and ends up with around 20 points.

The key for me is that we get offense from 2 of our big 3. I think Foster will bring it, then we need to look for Shane and Gip. Shane was fantastic against KU in the OOD last year and Gip played well in Lawrence. Based on that (limited I know, but I'm an optimist), I think we can expect an efficient 45-50 from our big 3, then its guys like NuWill, Nino, etc. throwing in a normal decent performance to build off that base. If we get a great game from one of them, then its a bonus (and we win comfortably).

Then I factor in that we've played not just good, but great defense at home. KU has enough young players that I think our crowd and that defense will bother them.

That all leads me to a Cat win as I said earlier in this post. Granted, its based on an optimistic twisting of the numbers, but its still based on stats. Do with that what you want.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #87 on: February 10, 2014, 11:22:11 AM »
Wiggins will shut down Foster again, and KU's big men will dominate. 

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« Reply #88 on: February 10, 2014, 11:33:22 AM »
IIRC, wasn't the first KU game where Foster was just coming off his dislocated finger? Wiggins is a solid defender, but I'd like to think Foster's injury had more of an impact on his poor output that game.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #89 on: February 10, 2014, 11:42:33 AM »
For once, i agree with pepperjax

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2014, 11:50:48 AM »
have a ticket, not going, i get too angry/sad/mad during this game to make it enjoyable. heart broken too many times.
however, go cats.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2014, 11:51:45 AM »

Foster with a redemption game tomorrow night finishing with 20+?? What are the odds?

40/60

More like 70/30. JMHO.

 :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

No reason for :horrorsurprise:, I have some logic behind my thoughts.

First, Foster has been good at home. He's hitting 50% from 2, 42% from 3, and 70% on FTs in the OOD. Scoring 16 points per game, but more importantly 35 points per 100 possessions he's on the floor. Also around 4 boards and 3 assists per game.

Second, he's been even better in Big 12 play at home (outside of the Tech game). Even with the Tech game included he's hitting 62% on 2s, 48% on 3s, and 67% on FTs. 17.2 points per game and more impressively 42 points per 100 possessions. About the same on boards and assists.

Third, he's been through playing poorly on the road and great at home against the same opponent as we saw Saturday. He was terrible in Austin (1-6 on 3s, 3-12 overall, 8 points, 19 points/100 poss), but rebounded witha  great game Saturday. I'm not saying he's going to score 34 points at a rate of 70+ points per possession like he did vs Texas, but I think its likely he plays well, scores at a rate in the 30s/per 100 and ends up with around 20 points.

The key for me is that we get offense from 2 of our big 3. I think Foster will bring it, then we need to look for Shane and Gip. Shane was fantastic against KU in the OOD last year and Gip played well in Lawrence. Based on that (limited I know, but I'm an optimist), I think we can expect an efficient 45-50 from our big 3, then its guys like NuWill, Nino, etc. throwing in a normal decent performance to build off that base. If we get a great game from one of them, then its a bonus (and we win comfortably).

Then I factor in that we've played not just good, but great defense at home. KU has enough young players that I think our crowd and that defense will bother them.

That all leads me to a Cat win as I said earlier in this post. Granted, its based on an optimistic twisting of the numbers, but its still based on stats. Do with that what you want.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2014, 11:52:32 AM »
have a ticket, not going, i get too angry/sad/mad during this game to make it enjoyable. heart broken too many times.
however, go cats.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2014, 11:53:17 AM »
have a ticket, not going, i get too angry/sad/mad during this game to make it enjoyable. heart broken too many times.
however, go cats.

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already done.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #94 on: February 10, 2014, 11:55:11 AM »
have a ticket, not going, i get too angry/sad/mad during this game to make it enjoyable. heart broken too many times.
however, go cats.

Give your ticket to someone.

already done.

Don't know why I doubted you. :D

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #95 on: February 10, 2014, 11:58:25 AM »
have a ticket, not going, i get too angry/sad/mad during this game to make it enjoyable. heart broken too many times.
however, go cats.

Give your ticket to someone.

already done.

Don't know why I doubted you. :D

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2014, 12:07:49 PM »
Wiggins is a really overrated defender. He's not that smart, just athletic. Plays with his feet to close together has bad bend in his knees. Defense is a lot easier when you have a shot blocker behind you.

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Re: Bruceketball vs. Hawks game Analysis/Discussion Thread
« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2014, 12:08:30 PM »
ku will shoot an insane number from behind the arc

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« Reply #98 on: February 10, 2014, 12:12:11 PM »
Maybe we win, maybe we lose, but dammit I'm going to EMAW my face off and have fun tonight.

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« Reply #99 on: February 10, 2014, 12:16:40 PM »
I wonder if we will continue to double the post with both bigs.  It worked pretty well early in AFH vs Embiid and Ellis but Black and Traylor killed it when they came in and it seemed to not bother Embiid and Ellis when they returned but the game we already out of reach.

We were succesfull doubling UT's big guys Saturday but they don't pass or finish all that well, especially after Holmes went out and UT has very few shooters.  Since oscar doesn't play zone, I guess we could double with the guard but we haven't done that much.

I know it is a total departure from how we play D but teams that I would play a couple of possessions with both our post players in the lane and dare the KU bigs to shoot jumpers.