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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2014, 01:47:57 PM »
Pretty good idea I must admit. He should invest in a vac sealer.

they vac seal the bag at the store  :peek:
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2014, 01:49:31 PM »
Pretty good idea I must admit. He should invest in a vac sealer.

they vac seal the bag at the store  :peek:

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2014, 01:50:33 PM »
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2014, 01:51:55 PM »
How is this guy not going to get stopped and searched when he comes back to Kansas?

http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Kansas-man-plans-trips-to-Colorado-for-pot-users-239426711.html

As long as they don't bring any back in the van he'll be alright

The price is $420 HUR HUR HUR

What would be the point of that? People are going to pay $420 just to go smoke pot in Colorado for one night and not even bring any back?

Yeah it's overpriced but if you're old and sick with zero connections to get non-schwag weed (we're talking about Salina here) and want to see if it works. People with serious medical conditions probably pay more than $420 a month on meds. Plus the tour, which probably isn't a common thing you get to do. Details were sparse, but probably includes hotel and maybe dinner?

Also, they probably will bring some back. A van full of 45 year olds isn't as suspicious as a van full of 20-somethings coming back from a "concert"

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2014, 01:55:19 PM »
Also all he has to do is say to them "you aren't allowed to bring any back" and then he's cleared of liability if they get pulled over and they have some.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2014, 02:01:33 PM »
Pro tip when driving back to KS from CO: Drive 75mph, stay in the right lane and don't be a dumbass at gas stations in Goodland, Colby, Hays, Salina.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2014, 02:02:01 PM »
I've heard that at DUI checkpoints you can slip your ID and registration out the window, then sit and not answer any questions and they can't do anything. Although everyone knows when there's going to be DUI checkpoints up in Manhattan so I have no idea why you'd risk driving at all on those nights.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2014, 02:04:39 PM »
Pro tip when driving back to KS from CO: Drive 75mph, stay in the right lane and don't be a dumbass at gas stations in Goodland, Colby, Hays, Salina.

passed a cop on i-70 going though salina at 2am last night. he was only going 70 tho.  i was so  :ohno:
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2014, 02:05:14 PM »
Pro tip when driving back to KS from CO: Drive 75mph, stay in the right lane and don't be a dumbass at gas stations in Goodland, Colby, Hays, Salina.

passed a cop on i-70 going though salina at 2am last night. he was only going 70 tho.  i was so  :ohno:

He was probably drunk or stoned.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2014, 02:35:51 PM »
very tl;dr article about it was in the paper todayhttp://www.salina.com/news/uberdank-11-8-13.  for a little background, dude always runs for sheriff and has kinda dedicated his life to "taking down the man".

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Bart J. Allen, born in 1959, has lived most of his life in Salina, Kansas, with his wife of over 25 years, Theresa. They have two sons - Ransom and Lucas. A graduate of Kansas State Universtiy, Bart was a successful business man until the death of their first born son, Destry Greer Allen, forced him down a different path in life. This is his first book. A lifelond advocate for children, Allen wrote it out of a desire to not only find some justice for their son, but to spare others from going through the same horror they were forced to endure by vindictive, corrupt, self-serving, government officials in Saline County Kansas.

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Marijuana remains just as illegal as ever in Saline County, but a former local candidate for sheriff is planning to start a business taking Salinans to a place where the same rules no longer apply.
Bart Allen said he hopes to start this weekend offering people seats on a 12-passenger Mercedes van that will make overnight trips from Salina to Denver on Saturdays.
According to media accounts, 24 Denver marijuana dispensaries were licensed, inspected and fully permitted for recreational sales on Jan. 1, and shop owners reported more than $1 million in sales that first day alone. By the end of the month, 50 or 60 dispensaries are expected to be open for "adult use," Allen said.

Allen said people descended upon Denver from across the country to buy legal recreational marijuana on Jan. 1. Lines were long at dispensaries, and the high demand caused prices to spike.

"By next weekend, hopefully some of the initial fever will have worn out a little bit," he said.
Allen said target customers for his new shuttle service, called UberDank Destinations, would be people 45 or older who want to spend a night enjoying Denver and learning about how the growing marijuana industry one state to the west could help them with medical conditions.

The word UberDank is defined on urbandictionary.com as "high-end marijuana that is prepared to perfection."

"I have found that for most of the people I know, when you get sick, the rules change immensely for what you think is right and wrong," Allen said. "You do what you have to do to take care of yourself."

Allen said people who are interested in reserving a seat on the van can contact him through the UberDank Destinations Facebook page or through his son's coffee shop, The Coffee Club, 2107 E. Crawford. He said riders must be 21 or older.

For individual riders, the price of the trip, including a hotel room, will be $420 -- a nod to a holiday established by marijuana users for smoking pot on April 20, or 4/20.
Allen said that if the shuttle service takes off, he might add more vans, more trips, more stops along the way or more destinations in Colorado.

Allen said his primary residence is now in Denver, where he watched with growing fascination as the city geared up for the legalization of recreational marijuana. He said he continues to make frequent trips to his hometown of Salina and began to think perhaps he could provide a passenger service for other Salina area residents.
He said marijuana has "a ton of legitimate medicinal uses that people here don't have any knowledge of, so I thought this would be a good way for people to get educated."

Allen said he plans to offer the trips as an educational opportunity for people to try marijuana products in Colorado to determine whether the drug is helpful to them. He said passengers will tour at least one marijuana dispensary and grow site and have an opportunity to buy a personal-use quantity -- as much as a quarter of an ounce -- of marijuana.

He said people who are worried about "looking like a drug freak" if they smoke marijuana can get similar effects from a variety of edible items containing THC, the main psychoactive chemical in marijuana, and other cannabinoids. He said Colorado dispensaries sell cupcakes, suckers, chocolate bars, drinks and THC-infused butter, among other products.

"If you find out you can move one state over and eat a chocolate bar and not have migraines any more, isn't that something you'd want to know?" he said.

He said people who take advantage of his service can "go have a night out in Denver at a four-star hotel and get educated as to the world that exists outside of Salina."
Allen said he thinks the cost of the trip will dissuade recreational users just wanting to make a dope run from reserving a seat.

"This is for people who are successful, but they find themselves at a place in their life that they're more worried about just getting up and feeling good every day," he said. "I can't keep people from riding it for whatever purposes they want to, but our focus is to help people find a way to manage whatever chronic symptoms that they may have."

Allen said medical marijuana had been selling in Colorado at a price that came to $100 to $200 an ounce, depending on quality. That same ounce being sold illegally in Kansas would cost about $400, he said. By the end of the first day of legal recreational sales, marijuana was selling in Denver for a price that came to about $560 an ounce, he said.

Allen said that in Colorado, medical marijuana is available only to people with a medical marijuana card and is taxed at a rate of 7 percent. He said Kansans who purchase marijuana will have to pay the 25 percent recreational tax rate.

He said the state of Colorado expects tax revenues of $50 million to $60 million in its first year of legal recreational marijuana sales. Boulder, Colo., which is expected to become the "new Amsterdam of the world," might charge an additional 10 percent in taxes, Allen said.

He said that while in Kansas marijuana is still considered a dangerous drug, in Colorado, people have "overcome years of brainwashing by the government and big business interests" on the subject.

Allen said Colorado is well on its way to becoming a worldwide "herbal tourism" destination, with marijuana-focused tour services already operating out of southeast Asia and Europe. Allen said he hopes to bring in interested Kansans.

"We're either being progressive or subversive," he said.

Allen, who has a college degree in economics, said that he has found it fascinating to watch the market evolve, as rules are made for what could be a multibillion-dollar industry developing in Colorado.

He said many details of how marijuana will fit into society in Colorado remain to be determined, such as where it can be smoked legally. He said limousine services are charging about $100 an hour to drive people around to view the mountains as they smoke because otherwise there are currently few legal options for marijuana smokers.
"It's going to end up being like Napa Valley where you'll be able to go through and see the big grows and see the operations from behind glass," he said. "There will be plants at different phases of growth, harvesting, final curing and all the packaging. It just boggles my mind. All I see is money. These guys have millions invested in this stuff."

He said with the exception of a group of counties in eastern Colorado, people in that state generally don't care whether a person uses marijuana.
"It's almost like a different country from here," he said. "I go there and I spend time, and I'm a little confused because people are so different in their thinking. It's a pretty progressive state, relatively speaking."

He said people who at some point in their lives have secretively smoked or grown pot will be amazed to see the huge grow operations that are now legal in Colorado.

"A lot of people, especially our age, walk through and just look around and think, 'I can't believe what is going on here. Are you sure nobody cares, man?' " he said.

He said the perception of marijuana in Kansas has kept many people from finding out about how it could help them with medical issues. He said marijuana is recognized in Colorado primarily for its use in treating pain, but various other states recognize it as being effective for treatment of ailments such as anxiety, glaucoma, insomnia, multiple sclerosis and seizures. It also is known to stimulate the appetite and has anti-inflammatory effects, he said.

He said people who have such ailments often are prescribed medications with more dangerous side effects than marijuana, and many pain medications are addictive. Overdoses of such medications are increasingly the cause of death for thousands of people, while no one has ever fatally overdosed on marijuana, he said. He said people also tend to use alcohol to self-medicate.

"Oxycodone is one of the top causes of death for housewives," he said. "Everybody knows how many people die from alcohol. It goes on and on. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) has never recorded a single death, ever, from marijuana. Surely the CDC has been paying attention to this, and they've never recorded a death."
Deaths from prescription painkillers including oxycodone reached "epidemic levels" during the past decade, according to information on the CDC website. The number of overdose deaths from prescription painkillers is now greater than the number of deaths from heroin and cocaine combined, the CDC reported. Nonmedical use of addictive prescription drugs is a big part of the problem, according to the report.

Marijuana use is not associated with increased mortality in the general population, according to a report entitled "Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base" authored in 1999 by researchers with the Division of Neuroscience and Behavioral Health for the Institute of Medicine, the health arm of the National Academy of Sciences.

That's not to say federal government officials have decided marijuana is harmless. According to a publication put out by the Office of National Drug Control Policy, marijuana use can cause significant health, safety, social, and learning or behavioral problems, especially for young users, and the drug can be addictive. Those problems are compounded by the more potent marijuana now available.

However, Allen said he believes the majority of Americans think it's time to legalize marijuana, although he doesn't see that happening in Kansas anytime soon.

"It's here to stay in Colorado, and they're really kind of a test state for all the others who are wanting to move on it because the fact is it's an income source," he said.

"It doesn't hurt anybody, and the states have just kind of all figured out they need the money."

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2014, 02:42:55 PM »
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2014, 02:44:34 PM »
link pls

Never seen it before?  Basically you're just west of Alma (heading east) and they put up these signs with flashing lights that say caution checkpoint ahead then a little while later it says caution drug dogs in use and way up ahead you can see the lights.  But you do have the opportunity to exit on Tallgrass Road and what do you know there's a hipo there to bust your ass if you do. 

Anyway I have some hunting access to some ground off that exit so next time I want to GoPro it up and see what happens. 

EDIT:  There's no actual checkpoint, they're baiting people into exiting to avoid a checkpoint.

would there ever be a checkpoint? i have never been on an interstate highway and encountered a checkpoint.
No. The Supreme Court has ruled them unconstitutional. DUI checkpoints are constitutional because they concern an issue of public safety.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94874

Hmmmmm, there are checkpoints all along interstates 8 and 5 looking for illegals, drugs (with dogs), human smugglers, and fruit. I hope this shuts them down because they are a pain in the ass.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2014, 03:24:21 PM »
didn't realize gE was full of potheads

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2014, 03:36:33 PM »
didn't realize gE was full of potheads

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2014, 03:54:39 PM »
didn't realize gE was full of potheads
How could you not know that? High school kids in parents' basements. Nothing but potheads.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2014, 11:18:40 PM »
there's some really interesting videos on the internet about some guy in arizona who films all of his interactions at a border patrol checkpoint he drives through like five times a week or something.  they're really interesting.

i'd like to treat some check pointing law enforcer like he does, but after thinking about it for a while, i think he is only able to do so with impunity because he drives through often and is known to the le personnel.  and because he lawyers up if they push, of course.
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2014, 01:10:15 AM »
They attached blue and red flashing lights to poles about half a mile after the signs tonight so it looked like actual cops stopped on the road doing a car stop from far away. Hadn't seen that before.

Also this seems dangerous
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« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2014, 02:59:07 AM »
In my personal experience, it is always best to tell a cop to just give you your rough ridin' ticket.  Warnings seem pretty much non existent anymore so the dance of will they/won't they is just a waste of time for you.  Especially if you know you did speed/do something against traffic laws. 

If a cop has to ask you something, the answer should always be "no".  They don't ask if they don't need to.

I speed a lot. I get warnings about half the time.
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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2014, 03:27:11 AM »


i watch these videos and think man i'm going to mush that cop hard next time. then rcpd pulls me over because i have a headlight out, take one look at my license and say HA nerd and throw it back in my face. everything i've been pulled over for has been legitimate - annoying, but legitimate i suppose... like failing to signal, using my brights too much, not braking long enough... whoops. even though they're annoying, usually pretty pleasant interactions with rcpd traffic police. however, got pulled over for going 62 in a 60 in texas on a highway right after passing through the OK border. so i can understand how annoying those big ego power trip officers are since most seem to be in tx, az, nm, etc.

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« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2014, 08:58:57 AM »


i watch these videos and think man i'm going to mush that cop hard next time. then rcpd pulls me over because i have a headlight out, take one look at my license and say HA nerd and throw it back in my face. everything i've been pulled over for has been legitimate - annoying, but legitimate i suppose... like failing to signal, using my brights too much, not braking long enough... whoops. even though they're annoying, usually pretty pleasant interactions with rcpd traffic police. however, got pulled over for going 62 in a 60 in texas on a highway right after passing through the OK border. so i can understand how annoying those big ego power trip officers are since most seem to be in tx, az, nm, etc.

oh my god you are one of those people

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2014, 09:07:15 AM »
One time I California rolled a stop sign by Hale Library at 4AM on a Tuesday after a study sesh.  He told me he could give me a big ticket and I was all "pffft I pay your salary dude."  I got a warning.  Don't know how I did that as I was a dick to him.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2014, 11:52:51 AM »
link pls

Never seen it before?  Basically you're just west of Alma (heading east) and they put up these signs with flashing lights that say caution checkpoint ahead then a little while later it says caution drug dogs in use and way up ahead you can see the lights.  But you do have the opportunity to exit on Tallgrass Road and what do you know there's a hipo there to bust your ass if you do. 

Anyway I have some hunting access to some ground off that exit so next time I want to GoPro it up and see what happens. 

EDIT:  There's no actual checkpoint, they're baiting people into exiting to avoid a checkpoint.

would there ever be a checkpoint? i have never been on an interstate highway and encountered a checkpoint.

Sometimes they do park a car there with the lights going, but it's there all day unattended.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2014, 11:54:47 AM »
Pretty good idea I must admit. He should invest in a vac sealer.

LOL...yeah, that's all it takes.

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Re: The drug dog thing on I-70
« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2014, 11:57:00 AM »
In my personal experience, it is always best to tell a cop to just give you your rough ridin' ticket.  Warnings seem pretty much non existent anymore so the dance of will they/won't they is just a waste of time for you.  Especially if you know you did speed/do something against traffic laws. 

If a cop has to ask you something, the answer should always be "no".  They don't ask if they don't need to.

I speed a lot. I get warnings about half the time.

yeah, lifetime I've had 4 tickets  (2 on same day  :facepalm: ) and a lot more warnings.