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2014-2015
« on: November 22, 2013, 09:04:50 AM »
Now that it is evident that this team is complete :bs:, the only thing that brings me happiness is looking forward to next year! I think we might be good:

-#55 is gone. (I am no longer using his name)
-We have a front court
-Edwards/Foster dynamic duo scoring threat
-Full season of Jevon who I've heard from insidery source will live up to the bill
-Hopefully Krap is bruced
-#55 is gone.

oscar, I'm giving you a pass this year but if you suck it up next year too, then  :Flamethrower:



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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2013, 09:09:51 AM »
#team2015NCAAorbust

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 09:10:03 AM »
Won't it be exactly the same unless Hurt is really good?  :dunno:

Seems like no wins if no bigs.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 09:11:41 AM »
You can win without bigs if you have awesome shooters.  I remember each time we'd be recruiting during Wooly someone would be like "This is a sweet sixteen team in 2005" or whatever.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2013, 09:13:49 AM »
the cuts in our motion offense will be so sharp guys

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2013, 09:14:53 AM »
Now that it is evident that this team is complete :bs:, the only thing that brings me happiness is looking forward to next year! I think we might be good:

-#55 is gone. (I am no longer using his name)
-We have a front court
-Edwards/Foster dynamic duo scoring threat
-Full season of Jevon who I've heard from insidery source will live up to the bill
-Hopefully Krap is bruced
-#55 is gone.

oscar, I'm giving you a pass this year but if you suck it up next year too, then  :Flamethrower:

A lineup of Edwards, Thomas, Bolden, Hurt, and [insert 5th player here (Clark?)] would beat any 5 that we could put on the court today.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2013, 09:26:25 AM »
Won't it be exactly the same unless Hurt is really good?  :dunno:

Seems like no wins if no bigs.

But we will have what sounds like at least one decent guard and Nigel could turn into something decent.  I mean, it's a ways out there, but we have made things work with one good guard and some talented small forward work.   :dunno: 

Also, isn't Bolden like 6'-10"? 

I actually think that next yr and the following yr could be pretty entertaining.  Especially if that rich Dallas walk on is used they way he should be(see Manning and Self).

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2013, 09:29:29 AM »
Now that it is evident that this team is complete :bs:, the only thing that brings me happiness is looking forward to next year! I think we might be good:

-#55 is gone. (I am no longer using his name)
-We have a front court
-Edwards/Foster dynamic duo scoring threat
-Full season of Jevon who I've heard from insidery source will live up to the bill
-Hopefully Krap is bruced
-#55 is gone.

oscar, I'm giving you a pass this year but if you suck it up next year too, then  :Flamethrower:

A lineup of Edwards, Thomas, Bolden, Hurt, and [insert 5th player here (Clark?)] would beat any 5 that we could put on the court today.

Lot of teams could beat any 5 we put on the court today. Need higher standard.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 09:30:45 AM »
Won't it be exactly the same unless Hurt is really good?  :dunno:

Seems like no wins if no bigs.

Even though its a pretty small sample size, from what I've seen of Hurt I was impressed (double-double against Nerlens Noel). At the very least, we have much more depth in the front court, and players whose heights are appropriate for the position. Bolden is probably gonna be a FP but I thought I heard somewhere that he looks good in practice?


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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 09:31:13 AM »
Now that it is evident that this team is complete :bs:, the only thing that brings me happiness is looking forward to next year! I think we might be good:

-#55 is gone. (I am no longer using his name)
-We have a front court
-Edwards/Foster dynamic duo scoring threat
-Full season of Jevon who I've heard from insidery source will live up to the bill
-Hopefully Krap is bruced
-#55 is gone.

oscar, I'm giving you a pass this year but if you suck it up next year too, then  :Flamethrower:

A lineup of Edwards, Thomas, Bolden, Hurt, and [insert 5th player here (Clark?)] would beat any 5 that we could put on the court today.

Lot of teams could beat any 5 we put on the court today. Need higher standard.

Get a little better every season.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2013, 09:34:05 AM »
Won't it be exactly the same unless Hurt is really good?  :dunno:

Seems like no wins if no bigs.

Even though its a pretty small sample size, from what I've seen of Hurt I was impressed (double-double against Nerlens Noel). At the very least, we have much more depth in the front court, and players whose heights are appropriate for the position. Bolden is probably gonna be a FP but I thought I heard somewhere that he looks good in practice?

FPs usually look good in practice cause they go 75% when everyone else is going 50%. 

this becomes an issue during actual gameplay

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 09:35:47 AM »

Lot of teams could beat any 5 we put on the court today. Need higher standard.

And that's exactly why I'm looking forward to next year. #teamstillgivesashit, tho.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 10:21:41 AM »
You have to assume at least 2 of the players we are counting on for next year to even be somewhat better than shitty will transfer.   :flush:
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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 10:23:09 AM »
even if bolden is an fb, having a 6-11 guy to at least cower under the basket would be an improvement.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 10:24:10 AM »
even if bolden is an fb, having a 6-11 guy to at least cower under the basket would be an improvement.

would take

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2013, 10:31:59 AM »
The lineup and talent next year looks better on paper but this team is soft man.  oscar is making these guys soft and I don't konw how you get around that.  We'll never have so much talent here that we can be pussies and still win.  Unless one of these new guys is just a badass in your face leader than we're pretty much screwed.   

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2013, 04:15:46 PM »
Jevon, Edwards, Foster, Gip, Hurt

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2013, 04:21:44 PM »
Jevon, Edwards, Foster, Gip, Hurt

:love:

And Westicles, Nigel and Bolden(Shot blocker) providing depth. The current team has really shitty depth, youth and no point guard. Hopefully we shake those problems coming in to next year. 

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2013, 04:51:44 PM »
Jevon, Edwards, Foster, Gip, Hurt

:love:

Pretty sure you only have one (Foster) good three-point shooter there out of five.  That won't work for oscar, not at all.  Also, oscar has no idea what to do with two guys like Gip and Hurt in the paint at the same time.  He doesn't do high-low motion, or at least he doesn't do it well.  He remains true to his patented 5-man motion. 

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They take advantage of the "soft" spots on the floor, the short corner and high post. They usually start in a 5-out or 1-2-2 set with a ball-screen then a roll to the basket. There is not traditional post-up. The ball is constantly reversed while the weak side executes screen and replace. With all the constant movement, precise cuts, and screening, the defense usually gets caught out of position.

Unless one of those two can pick and pop, they won't play at the same time.

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The worst thing you can do is lie to yourself about the future.  He's still recruiting a team he can't win with.  Athletic slashers and beefy post men, not three-point marksmen and pick-and-pop jump shooters.  He won't change his offense for them, but he will blame them when they can't run it effectively. 
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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2013, 04:57:20 PM »
I hate him.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2013, 05:07:32 PM »
Jevon, Edwards, Foster, Gip, Hurt

:love:

Pretty sure you only have one (Foster) good three-point shooter there out of five. 

yeah, that team would not win much.
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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2013, 05:09:15 PM »
Edwards can shoot 3's, tho. And Jevon can get them open!

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2013, 05:17:18 PM »
Have also heard that Hurt has range, like, 3-pt range.  :crossfingers:

Can't confirm, tho.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2013, 05:18:20 PM »
We will still have oscar so we're going to suck.

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Re: 2014-2015
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2013, 05:20:38 PM »
Jevon, Edwards, Foster, Gip, Hurt

:love:

Pretty sure you only have one (Foster) good three-point shooter there out of five. 

yeah, that team would not win much.

I don't want to believe this