Author Topic: OU game talk (Read 13107 times)

Lefty · « **on:** November 20, 2013, 12:00:56 PM »

Talking points:
-Loss of Zims on run support
-Bubble screen madness and best way to defend
-KSU injuries and how it effects our play (Zims, Britz, Roberts)
-OU injuries/Suspensions (Bell, RB and WR studs)
-Cold weather and pace of play

I think Zims' absence is huge obstacle. His run support and knack for tackling in space can't be taught in one game. I do believe if Roberts is out, Miles is actually better at the LOS escpecially with the amount of WR screens and bubble routes. Has anyone else noticed or been a little upset at Evans' effort on run support? I'm nitpicking, but it seems he takes plays off or is tentative often.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:07:04 PM »

The real benefit of Bell being out is that the defense can focus a game plan on one guy. And while perhaps more dangerous as a runner, the offensive package that OU will run with Knight will be much less than what they'd run with Bell. With TZ out, that puts less pressure on the defense and especially whoever takes over the defensive calls and adjustments. JMHO.

Lefty · « **Reply #2 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:09:15 PM »

Surely they throw the ball more with Knight right? That's what I'm afraid of. I think they dink and dunk us to death. I have a sneaky feeling that we rattle the crap out of Knight and he folds.

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:11:03 PM »

the cold benefits the cats because we are from a higher latitude and therefore better acclimated to harsh winter conditions.

65-0 KSU.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:12:28 PM »

Quote from: Lefty on November 20, 2013, 12:09:15 PM

Surely they throw the ball more with Knight right? That's what I'm afraid of. I think they dink and dunk us to death. I have a sneaky feeling that we rattle the crap out of Knight and he folds.

Knight's strength is not throwing the ball.

MadCat · « **Reply #5 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:13:24 PM »

Mueller to Knight A6, Checkmate

kso_FAN · « **Reply #6 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:13:45 PM »

Bell: 130-217 59.9% 1508 YDs 6.9 YPA 11 TDs 5 INTs 75 rushes 255 YDs 3.4 YPC 0 TDs
Knight: 30-63 47.6% 272 YDs 4.3 YPA 4 TDs 3 INTs 37 rushes 309 YDs 8.4 YPC 1 TD

troubledscribe · « **Reply #7 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:22:38 PM »

Quote from: Lefty on November 20, 2013, 12:00:56 PM

Talking points:
-Loss of Zims on run support
-Bubble screen madness and best way to defend
-KSU injuries and how it effects our play (Zims, Britz, Roberts)
-OU injuries/Suspensions (Bell, RB and WR studs)
-Cold weather and pace of play

I think Zims' absence is huge obstacle. His run support and knack for tackling in space can't be taught in one game. I do believe if Roberts is out, Miles is actually better at the LOS escpecially with the amount of WR screens and bubble routes. Has anyone else noticed or been a little upset at Evans' effort on run support? I'm nitpicking, but it seems he takes plays off or is tentative often.

Miles is going to show up in a big way.

pvegs · « **Reply #8 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:23:02 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on November 20, 2013, 12:07:04 PM

The real benefit of Bell being out is that the defense can focus a game plan on one guy. And while perhaps more dangerous as a runner, the offensive package that OU will run with Knight will be much less than what they'd run with Bell. With TZ out, that puts less pressure on the defense and especially whoever takes over the defensive calls and adjustments. JMHO.

Any concern that we might also see Kendall Thompson? Obviously he doesn't have much meaningful experience, but it seems like some OUers think he actually has the most upside of the 3.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #9 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:25:19 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on November 20, 2013, 12:23:02 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on November 20, 2013, 12:07:04 PM
The real benefit of Bell being out is that the defense can focus a game plan on one guy. And while perhaps more dangerous as a runner, the offensive package that OU will run with Knight will be much less than what they'd run with Bell. With TZ out, that puts less pressure on the defense and especially whoever takes over the defensive calls and adjustments. JMHO.

Any concern that we might also see Kendall Thompson? Obviously he doesn't have much meaningful experience, but it seems like some OUers think he actually has the most upside of the 3.

Probably. ISU was the first game he played all year.

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #10 on:** November 20, 2013, 12:53:45 PM »

OBz is gonna use Sams as the scout team QB this week isnt he

pvegs · « **Reply #11 on:** November 20, 2013, 01:24:58 PM »

Yeah, was thinking since they know Bell is def out it would make sense to come up with a couple packages for Thompson, though it seems he brings mostly the same skills to the table as Knight.

Lucas Scoopsalot · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2013, 02:38:55 PM »

Miles can't be any worse than Roberts, hopefully anyway.

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #13 on:** November 20, 2013, 03:09:35 PM »

Oklahoma City TV station KOCO-5 reported that starting running back Damien Williams will not play, being suspended for a violation of team rules. The station also reported starting wide receiver Lacottan Bester will not play due to unspecified reasons and quarterback Blake Bell is out with a concussion.

slobber · « **Reply #14 on:** November 20, 2013, 03:31:20 PM »

Quote from: MadCat on November 20, 2013, 12:13:24 PM

Mueller to Knight A6, Checkmate

This will happen often.

slobber · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2013, 03:32:52 PM »

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 20, 2013, 03:09:35 PM

Oklahoma City TV station KOCO-5 reported that starting running back Damien Williams will not play, being suspended for a violation of team rules. The station also reported starting wide receiver Lacottan Bester will not play due to unspecified reasons and quarterback Blake Bell is out with a concussion.

Are these new people that are out, or is this the same crap that has been luked all effing day?

(No offense Mikey)

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2013, 04:02:32 PM »

Quote from: dobber on November 20, 2013, 03:32:52 PM

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 20, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
Oklahoma City TV station KOCO-5 reported that starting running back Damien Williams will not play, being suspended for a violation of team rules. The station also reported starting wide receiver Lacottan Bester will not play due to unspecified reasons and quarterback Blake Bell is out with a concussion.
Are these new people that are out, or is this the same crap that has been luked all effing day?

(No offense Mikey)

I hadn't seen anybody talked about but Bell, but you know how things get spread around here

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2013, 04:05:13 PM »

ah, i found it. Silly me searched for Lacottan, but his name is apparently Lacoltan. Thanks TCJ!

slobber · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2013, 04:19:10 PM »

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 20, 2013, 04:05:13 PM

ah, i found it. Silly me searched for Lacottan, but his name is apparently Lacoltan. Thanks TCJ!

eff that paper. It's good for obituaries.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2013, 05:30:00 PM »

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ChiComCat · « **Reply #20 on:** November 20, 2013, 05:35:13 PM »

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kso_FAN · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2013, 08:53:55 AM »

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Kansas State 31, Oklahoma 24: An early start with a freshman quarterback (Trevor Knight) with two more key offensive players (RB Damien Williams and WR Lacoltan Bester) out against a well-coached team? This is a tough spot for the Sooners. K-State is on a roll and playing with confidence, while 13 weeks into the season, Oklahoma is still trying to find its footing offensively. Even if QB Trevor Knight shines again, which he does, the Sooners lack the adequate firepower around him to keep up. Instead, K-State drops off 30 for the fifth straight week to thwart Bob Stoops’ attempt to break the Oklahoma record for coaching victories. With a road trip to Stillwater and the bowl game (Holiday Bowl?) all that’s remaining, it could be awhile before Stoops breaks that record, too.

Drew’s pick: Did anyone honestly think I would pick the dark side? The Cats are hot right now, and while the Sooners won’t make this easy, Jack Cantele nails another fourth-quarter field goal to start the party in Aggieville. K-State, 30-27

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/76184/big-12-predictions-week-13-3?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #23 on:** November 21, 2013, 08:57:37 AM »

Quote from: Lefty on November 20, 2013, 12:00:56 PM

Has anyone else noticed or been a little upset at Evans' effort on run support? I'm nitpicking, but it seems he takes plays off or is tentative often.

yes, he is infuriating to watch sometimes.. he seems to take plays off and can be a real lazy ass tackler.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #24 on:** November 21, 2013, 08:59:27 AM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on November 21, 2013, 08:57:37 AM

Quote from: Lefty on November 20, 2013, 12:00:56 PM
Has anyone else noticed or been a little upset at Evans' effort on run support? I'm nitpicking, but it seems he takes plays off or is tentative often.
yes, he is infuriating to watch sometimes.. he seems to take plays off and can be a real lazy ass tackler.

He takes really poor angles and doesn't account for where his help is coming from which shouldn't happen with his experience.