Kansas Governor watch (early polling)

[Paul Moscow]

What are the shortfalls in other states?

It's not the shortfall necessarily that caused the downgrade - its that Kansas doesn't currently have a mechanism in place to replace the lost revenue after the promised economic growth didn't materialize.

That was pretty stupid of Brownback to promise an increase in economic growth and revenue within the first two years of phasing in tax reductions. Can't believe he promised that. He did promise that, right?

Brownback State of the State speech in Jan,

"More money, more flexibility, more learning---all paid for out of a growing economy."

"A growing economy, a responsible state government, a world class education---these are wonderful legacies."

"And again, thanks to the growing economy and the work of this Legislature, it is affordable".

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

What are the shortfalls in other states?

It's not the shortfall necessarily that caused the downgrade - its that Kansas doesn't currently have a mechanism in place to replace the lost revenue after the promised economic growth didn't materialize.

That was pretty stupid of Brownback to promise an increase in economic growth and revenue within the first two years of phasing in tax reductions. Can't believe he promised that. He did promise that, right?

Brownback State of the State speech in Jan,

"More money, more flexibility, more learning---all paid for out of a growing economy."

"A growing economy, a responsible state government, a world class education---these are wonderful legacies."

"And again, thanks to the growing economy and the work of this Legislature, it is affordable".

I don't think anybody expected the national recession to continue for nearly 6 years,  It takes a special leader to stretch it out this long.

[CNS]

Gov makes drastic tax changes.  State rev drastically drops.  Thanks, Obama!

[Paul Moscow]

What are the shortfalls in other states?

It's not the shortfall necessarily that caused the downgrade - its that Kansas doesn't currently have a mechanism in place to replace the lost revenue after the promised economic growth didn't materialize.

That was pretty stupid of Brownback to promise an increase in economic growth and revenue within the first two years of phasing in tax reductions. Can't believe he promised that. He did promise that, right?

Brownback State of the State speech in Jan,

"More money, more flexibility, more learning---all paid for out of a growing economy."

"A growing economy, a responsible state government, a world class education---these are wonderful legacies."

"And again, thanks to the growing economy and the work of this Legislature, it is affordable".

I don't think anybody expected the national recession to continue for nearly 6 years,  It takes a special leader to stretch it out this long.

Other states have rebounded and are doing fine, what's the matter with Kansas?

[Asteriskhead]

What are the shortfalls in other states?

It's not the shortfall necessarily that caused the downgrade - its that Kansas doesn't currently have a mechanism in place to replace the lost revenue after the promised economic growth didn't materialize.

That was pretty stupid of Brownback to promise an increase in economic growth and revenue within the first two years of phasing in tax reductions. Can't believe he promised that. He did promise that, right?

Brownback State of the State speech in Jan,

"More money, more flexibility, more learning---all paid for out of a growing economy."

"A growing economy, a responsible state government, a world class education---these are wonderful legacies."

"And again, thanks to the growing economy and the work of this Legislature, it is affordable".

I don't think anybody expected the national recession to continue for nearly 6 years,  It takes a special leader to stretch it out this long.

Other states have rebounded and are doing fine, what's the matter with Kansas?

frankly, I think Tom has covered a lot of it already.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

What are the shortfalls in other states?

It's not the shortfall necessarily that caused the downgrade - its that Kansas doesn't currently have a mechanism in place to replace the lost revenue after the promised economic growth didn't materialize.

That was pretty stupid of Brownback to promise an increase in economic growth and revenue within the first two years of phasing in tax reductions. Can't believe he promised that. He did promise that, right?

Brownback State of the State speech in Jan,

"More money, more flexibility, more learning---all paid for out of a growing economy."

"A growing economy, a responsible state government, a world class education---these are wonderful legacies."

"And again, thanks to the growing economy and the work of this Legislature, it is affordable".

I don't think anybody expected the national recession to continue for nearly 6 years,  It takes a special leader to stretch it out this long.

Other states have rebounded and are doing fine, what's the matter with Kansas?

Which states are rebounding?

[sys]

Which states are rebounding?

ours.

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/gdp_state/gsp_newsrelease.htm

[steve dave]

That west coast is a hot piece of growth ass

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Texas and North Dakota hauling ass.  LOL at the Northeast.

Wonder what 2013 looked like? We know GDP growth 1Q14 was an abysmal .1%. When growth would decelerate while W was president the left would declare a recession.

[sys]

dunno if this is a stable link.  if not, move to 2013 and gsp.  ca @ 2.3, ks @ 1.0.


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/compare_state_spending_2013pZ0c

[Paul Moscow]

Jerry Brown just being a huge boss right now while Brownback poops all over the place.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

dunno if this is a stable link.  if not, move to 2013 and gsp.  ca @ 2.3, ks @ 1.0.


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/compare_state_spending_2013pZ0c

1.9% average 

Welcome to Obamastan

[steve dave]

What can KS learn from CA to help it grow its economy?

[Cire]

We didn't cut enough taxes or social programs. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I bet this is all Obamacare's fault.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Well, at least KU can say it has the same credit rating as the state of Kansas now.

[Dugout DickStone]

What can KS learn from CA to help it grow its economy?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Per that website, Kansas outpaced Cali by an average of 2% from 08 through 11. I guess when you don't ride the lows you don't have to try and catch up from way behind.

Of course govt. spending is a component of GDP so the more the state spends the better it looks GDPwise, even if the poor are starving, and the middle class is out of work and out of a home

[steve dave]

Per that website, Kansas outpaced Cali by an average of 2% from 08 through 11. I guess when you don't ride the lows you don't have to try and catch up from way behind.

Of course govt. spending is a component of GDP so the more the state spends the better it looks GDPwise, even if the poor are starving, and the middle class is out of work and out of a home

nice job whoever the governor was from 2008-2011.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Cali current UE rate 8.7% and foreclosure rate 1 in every 940

Kansas current UE rate 5.6% and foreclosure rate 1 in every 2760


Go Cali go! 

[CNS]

Sebelius really laid nice ground work for the tough times. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Cali current UE rate 8.7% and foreclosure rate 1 in every 940

Kansas current UE rate 5.6% and foreclosure rate 1 in every 2760


Go Cali go! 

Yet they still are more than doubling our economic growth.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Cost of living:  CA v. KS

Housing 288% more
Groceries 34% more
Transportation 17% more
Health Care 21% more

 
No jobs and living in a 450 sq/ft section 8 hovel! What a place! Prosperity!

[steve dave]

 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

What can KS learn from CA to help it grow its economy?

Add an ocean and better weather.