Briles > Snyder

[Dugout DickStone]

and I said "I don't want the dad from the original Red Dawn as my coach....he is up to something."

[sonofdaxjones]

"He is up to something" doesn't match with "He covered up all kinds of rapes" when discussing football coaches in most situations.

Little insider tip:  Everybody is "up to something" (but probably not colluding with administration and local police to cover up rape . . . well, maybe one school is, but . . . ).

[MakeItRain]

hey Steffy and I are just showing off at this point

Maybe you can but steffy has been talking about steroids and recruiting violations for three years. Pretty safe to assume that there were recruiting violations given hostesses were encouraged to bone 'cruits. But was anyone actually giving push back to the thought of Baylor being dirty?

[EMAWican]

That's it?

https://twitter.com/Big12Conference/status/829344148620791808

[deputy dawg]

Would it be plausible that Baylor withdrew from the conference?  I know they're not at the Nebraska or KU level of delusional self-importance, but they're damn close.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Would it be plausible that Baylor withdrew from the conference?  I know they're not at the Nebraska or KU level of delusional self-importance, but they're damn close.

No, they would have to find another conference that wants them first.

[MakeItRain]

What the hell do you mean by "that's it?" This was unprecedented action taken no only by the Big 12 but any major conference.

I also can't believe how many of you are seriously discussing three conference kicking Baylor out. I what way does that benefit the conference at all?

[Pete]

Weak response, but I expected even less.

No one in power really gives a crap about the crimes and ethical implications.  This is just about "appropriate public response."

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2017/02/08/big-12-withholding-revenue-baylor-review-title-ix-changes/97639228/

The money will be placed into escrow and eventually returned to Baylor, pending the results of the review.

So they don't really lose anything, then?

[pissclams]

What the hell do you mean by "that's it?" This was unprecedented action taken no only by the Big 12 but any major conference.

I also can't believe how many of you are seriously discussing three conference kicking Baylor out. I what way does that benefit the conference at all?

does it benefit the b12 financially by punishing baylor?  meh, the b12 will be just fine without their lying and cheating asses.  we can find any number of schools who can succeed when ignoring criminal and ncaa bylaws

booting them would show that the conference takes pride in its member institutions and doesn't support the illegal (ncaa) actions of its members and when a certain member commits such egregious actions such as have occurred at baylor, that the conference is bigger than one rogue member

doing nothing supports baylor's actions and this 25% revenue thing is a joke

"hey baylor, we know you earned this money by raping and LOIC'ing your ass off so you can't have the money that those actions generated.  instead, we will take the money that those actions generated.  thanks, brah."

ultimately, it's embarrassing to share a conference with them but this move really cements what's most important

[DQ12]

kicking Baylor out of the conference only punishes innocent parties at this point.  doing it would be nothing more than a silly PR stunt. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

What the hell do you mean by "that's it?" This was unprecedented action taken no only by the Big 12 but any major conference.

I also can't believe how many of you are seriously discussing three conference kicking Baylor out. I what way does that benefit the conference at all?

does it benefit the b12 financially by punishing baylor?  meh, the b12 will be just fine without their lying and cheating asses.  we can find any number of schools who can succeed when ignoring criminal and ncaa bylaws

booting them would show that the conference takes pride in its member institutions and doesn't support the illegal (ncaa) actions of its members and when a certain member commits such egregious actions such as have occurred at baylor, that the conference is bigger than one rogue member

doing nothing supports baylor's actions and this 25% revenue thing is a joke

"hey baylor, we know you earned this money by raping and LOIC'ing your ass off so you can't have the money that those actions generated.  instead, we will take the money that those actions generated.  thanks, brah."

"Only until you implement Title IX like everyone else did back in 1972, though. Then we'll give you the money back."

[pissclams]

kicking Baylor out of the conference only punishes innocent parties at this point.  doing it would be nothing more than a silly PR stunt. 

that's only if you're of the incorrect belief that there were a few parties involved with this and that they've been weeded out

the things that they're accused of don't happen without complicit involvement at all levels of the university

[DQ12]

kicking Baylor out of the conference only punishes innocent parties at this point.  doing it would be nothing more than a silly PR stunt. 

that's only if you're of the incorrect belief that there were a few parties involved with this and that they've been weeded out

the things that they're accused of don't happen without complicit involvement at all levels of the university

well then *crazy thought, so stay with me here*, a third party investigation occurs to determine who was involved and who was not and punish those responsible.



or, you know, the conference could make a ham-handed, reactionary decision that would ultimately be detrimental to itself.  that's worked well in the past.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 would hurt us in any way. There is no shortage of programs on Baylor's level that would be willing to join the Big 12.

[DQ12]

I don't think kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 would hurt us in any way. There is no shortage of programs on Baylor's level that would be willing to join the Big 12.

Yep.  No shortage of programs with 4 top 15 finishes and a Heisman winner in the last 5 seasons.  Can't walk 5 feet without tripping over a program like that willing to join the Big 12. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 would hurt us in any way. There is no shortage of programs on Baylor's level that would be willing to join the Big 12.

Yep.  No shortage of programs with 4 top 15 finishes and a Heisman winner in the last 5 seasons.  Can't walk 5 feet without tripping over a program like that willing to join the Big 12.

Briles is gone and Baylor supposedly has cleaned up their act. They will be better than they were before Briles (couldn't be worse), but they won't be competitive in the Big 12 for a long time.

[EMAWican]

What the hell do you mean by "that's it?" This was unprecedented action taken no only by the Big 12 but any major conference.

I also can't believe how many of you are seriously discussing three conference kicking Baylor out. I what way does that benefit the conference at all?

The Big 12 has now set the precedent and it's weak and borderline meaningless.

[DQ12]

I don't think kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 would hurt us in any way. There is no shortage of programs on Baylor's level that would be willing to join the Big 12.

Yep.  No shortage of programs with 4 top 15 finishes and a Heisman winner in the last 5 seasons.  Can't walk 5 feet without tripping over a program like that willing to join the Big 12.

Briles is gone and Baylor supposedly has cleaned up their act. They will be better than they were before Briles (couldn't be worse), but they won't be competitive in the Big 12 for a long time.

They have a legitimate head coach and a good recruiting class.  They'll be competitive.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 would hurt us in any way. There is no shortage of programs on Baylor's level that would be willing to join the Big 12.

Yep.  No shortage of programs with 4 top 15 finishes and a Heisman winner in the last 5 seasons.  Can't walk 5 feet without tripping over a program like that willing to join the Big 12.

Briles is gone and Baylor supposedly has cleaned up their act. They will be better than they were before Briles (couldn't be worse), but they won't be competitive in the Big 12 for a long time.

They have a legitimate head coach and a good recruiting class.  They'll be competitive.

We will see. I don't see them in the top 5 of the Big 12.

[MakeItRain]

kicking Baylor out of the conference only punishes innocent parties at this point.  doing it would be nothing more than a silly PR stunt.

Exactly. Baylor would also sue the crap out of the conference given that entity has no grounds for kicking them out for what is alleged here.

'clams rightly points out that the problem is a university problem but then calls for an athletic entity to deal with it, that makes no sense. Frankly the State of Texas, federal government, or some other body that governs or licenses the university should be stepping in here.

[DQ12]

kicking Baylor out of the conference only punishes innocent parties at this point.  doing it would be nothing more than a silly PR stunt.

Exactly. Baylor would also sue the crap out of the conference given that entity has no grounds for kicking them out for what is alleged here.

'clams rightly points out that the problem is a university problem but then calls for an athletic entity to deal with it, that makes no sense. Frankly the State of Texas, federal government, or some other body that governs or licenses the university should be stepping in here.

I agree.  It doesn't make any sense for the conference to do anything.  But this conditional "punishment" is par for the course when it comes to Big 12 leadership deciding on whether or not to act.

[Rage Against the McKee]

kicking Baylor out of the conference only punishes innocent parties at this point.  doing it would be nothing more than a silly PR stunt.

Exactly. Baylor would also sue the crap out of the conference given that entity has no grounds for kicking them out for what is alleged here.

'clams rightly points out that the problem is a university problem but then calls for an athletic entity to deal with it, that makes no sense. Frankly the State of Texas, federal government, or some other body that governs or licenses the university should be stepping in here.

I think losing a lawsuit to Baylor would be worth it to be rid of them. I really don't like my alma mater being associated with them.

[pissclams]

I don't think kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 would hurt us in any way. There is no shortage of programs on Baylor's level that would be willing to join the Big 12.

Yep.  No shortage of programs with 4 top 15 finishes and a Heisman winner in the last 5 seasons.  Can't walk 5 feet without tripping over a program like that willing to join the Big 12. 

easy to do when you cheat your  ass off and institute rape city usa rules

[star seed 7]

Should take all their money, they deserve nothing