Separate but equal...

[star seed 7]

alive and well in kansas

http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/04/3038825_kobach-laying-groundwork-for-two.html

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Anyone who refuses to present a valid ID to vote is probably trying to illegally vote

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

If you're too stupid and/or lazy to present a free ID before voting, you shouldn't be voting. How telling that Democrats are worried this will diminish turnout for their side.

[8manpick]

It would be fiscally irresponsible to issue all these free IDs. Sad that the 'pubs are so racist that it trumps their sense of fiscal conservatism.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

What's racist about requiring a voter ID?

Maybe your the racist for thinking certain races are too stupid to obtain a valid ID.

['taterblast]

is having to show id a new thing? i just honestly don't get why it's a big deal. i've showed id when i had to vote. are there places where it's difficult to get id? if i'm showing my white midwestern ignorance so be it, just let me know.

i get that the motives of the republicans are absolutely race driven, but in a vacuum having to show id seems totally logical to me.

[Dugout DickStone]

What's racist about requiring a voter ID?

Maybe your the racist for thinking certain races are too stupid to obtain a valid ID.

Sounds expensive to pay for everyone to have an ID.  Can't we try and cut back the spending and shrink the gov a bit? 

[husserl]

The article isn't about presenting an id when you show up to vote.

['taterblast]

The article isn't about presenting an id when you show up to vote.

it kind of is

[Dugout DickStone]

This seems like a gambit to increase the government.  Very clever

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

It would be fiscally irresponsible to issue all these free IDs. Sad that the 'pubs are so racist that it trumps their sense of fiscal conservatism.

How much would it cost?

[CNS]

I am for the base idea of needing id to vote.  How does a citizen get through life without an id?  I mean, even if you don't have credit cards or a bank acct and you just use check cashing services, they still require ID. 

The only possible way you could get through life without the need for and ID is if you are the ward of another person legally who has ID, or if you are someone who works for cash, doesn't drive, and doesn't have a landlord that requires ID. 

For something as important as voting and helping to determine who has say in the function of our govt, I think it is a very reasonable requirement.  Also, ID's are cheap.  It is silly to me that the govt is saying they need to pay for it.  The arguments I have heard against it seem to center on the $20 for the ID as well as how ppl without transportation would get to the DMV.  It is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we are governing around the assumption that ppl without cars couldn't find a way to the DMV on their own.  Should we pay for everyone to have a wallet too so that they have a place to put their ID?

I find some of this crap just silly.  This isn't requiring someone to own land or to pass a test to vote.  This is simply requiring someone to prove they are who they say they are. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I am for the base idea of needing id to vote.  How does a citizen get through life without an id?  I mean, even if you don't have credit cards or a bank acct and you just use check cashing services, they still require ID. 

The only possible way you could get through life without the need for and ID is if you are the ward of another person legally who has ID, or if you are someone who works for cash, doesn't drive, and doesn't have a landlord that requires ID. 

For something as important as voting and helping to determine who has say in the function of our govt, I think it is a very reasonable requirement.  Also, ID's are cheap.  It is silly to me that the govt is saying they need to pay for it.  The arguments I have heard against it seem to center on the $20 for the ID as well as how ppl without transportation would get to the DMV.  It is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we are governing around the assumption that ppl without cars couldn't find a way to the DMV on their own.  Should we pay for everyone to have a wallet too so that they have a place to put their ID?

I find some of this crap just silly.  This isn't requiring someone to own land or to pass a test to vote.  This is simply requiring someone to prove they are who they say they are.

24th Amendment tho

[husserl]

The citizenship requirement is separate from Kansas’ requirement that voters provide photo ID at the polls. While most people use their driver’s license for that, it’s generally not sufficient proof to register to vote in Kansas.

[CNS]

I am for the base idea of needing id to vote.  How does a citizen get through life without an id?  I mean, even if you don't have credit cards or a bank acct and you just use check cashing services, they still require ID. 

The only possible way you could get through life without the need for and ID is if you are the ward of another person legally who has ID, or if you are someone who works for cash, doesn't drive, and doesn't have a landlord that requires ID. 

For something as important as voting and helping to determine who has say in the function of our govt, I think it is a very reasonable requirement.  Also, ID's are cheap.  It is silly to me that the govt is saying they need to pay for it.  The arguments I have heard against it seem to center on the $20 for the ID as well as how ppl without transportation would get to the DMV.  It is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we are governing around the assumption that ppl without cars couldn't find a way to the DMV on their own.  Should we pay for everyone to have a wallet too so that they have a place to put their ID?

I find some of this crap just silly.  This isn't requiring someone to own land or to pass a test to vote.  This is simply requiring someone to prove they are who they say they are.

24th Amendment tho

How did citizens identify themselves back then as being a citizen?  If the cost of an ID can somehow be interpreted as a poll tax, fine, make them free.  They should still be required though. 

[p1k3]

What's racist about requiring a voter ID?

Maybe your the racist for thinking certain races are too stupid to obtain a valid ID.

Sounds expensive to pay for everyone to have an ID.  Can't we try and cut back the spending and shrink the gov a bit?

I'm fine with this. No IDs for anyone. It's none of the governments business who I am or what I look like. eff them.

(completely serious)

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

This seems like a gambit to increase the government.  Very clever

Actually, it's a round-about-way to shrink government if you believe the libs. They don't think their liberal base is bright enough to obtain an ID, therefore, allowing the tea party to take over. BOOM - smaller government.

[Institutional Control]

I believe the number of people who want to vote but don't have an ID is about as small as the number of people who are trying to commit voter fraud by voting for someone else.

Two minuscule problems blown way out of proportion by partisans hacks.

[star seed 7]

I believe the number of people who want to vote but don't have an ID is about as small as the number of people who are trying to commit voter fraud by voting for someone else.

Two minuscule problems blown way out of proportion by partisans hacks.

Great modtard post.

[sys]

I believe the number of people who want to vote but don't have an ID is about as small as the number of people who are trying to commit voter fraud by voting for someone else.

Two minuscule problems blown way out of proportion by partisans hacks.

correct on both counts.  it's also Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we don't have national voter (id) cards and Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we have to register to vote.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I believe the number of people who want to vote but don't have an ID is about as small as the number of people who are trying to commit voter fraud by voting for someone else.

Two minuscule problems blown way out of proportion by partisans hacks.

correct on both counts.  it's also Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we don't have national voter (id) cards and Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that we have to register to vote.

Yup. Most countries that require voter ID to issue them at birth. It would certainly make it much easier for legal citizens to vote, which is what everyone wants.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

List of secretly racist industries/institutions:
 Movie theaters
 Liquor stores
Convenience stores
The TSA
Financial Institutions
Car Rental
Equipment Rental
Universities
Airlines
Bars/Clubs
Insurance
US Courthouses
Dept of Health

[OK_Cat]

I have never shown an id while voting, and I am white.

[puniraptor]

List of secretly racist industries/institutions:
 Movie theaters
 Liquor stores
Convenience stores
The TSA
Financial Institutions
Car Rental
Equipment Rental
Universities
Airlines
Bars/Clubs
Insurance
US Courthouses
Dept of Health

I think you meant to say overtly racist.

[steve dave]

I believe the number of people who want to vote but don't have an ID is about as small as the number of people who are trying to commit voter fraud by voting for someone else.

Two minuscule problems blown way out of proportion by partisans hacks.

well said moderate friend