Conclusions

[catzacker]

It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.

yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?

Whitney looks like the one who'd be driving that crazy train.

hmmm, don't we have an "in" with Whitney?  seems like we could convince her about Sams.

[hemmy]

Sams can't move the ball.  He's slash, is what it is.

Based on what evidence? Your only argument is that if Sams wants to throw he can change the play, which is a horrible argument.

[Trim]

It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.

yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?

Whitney looks like the one who'd be driving that crazy train.

hmmm, don't we have an "in" with Whitney?  seems like we could convince her about Sams.

Do we?  But I don't think she cares about football, so long as the money keeps rolling in.

[AbeFroman]

The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.

This hurts so much. I'm almost ready to go tuck and say Sams should play RB. It's painfully obvious Snyder loves Waters, and it won't change. I just don't want Sams to leave.

[p1k3]

The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.

This hurts so much. I'm almost ready to go tuck and say Sams should play RB. It's painfully obvious Snyder loves Waters, and it won't change. I just don't want Sams to leave.

Sams should leave. I'm not sure we deserve him.

[Functianalyst]

What I observed last night was the lackadaisical recruiting efforts by Coach Snyder finally catch up with him.  With the exception of Lockett (and I notice some say Hubert), Texas' athleticism overwhelmed K-State.

Here are my thoughts:

1) After the Big XII started divisional football, K-State was able to hang since they did not have to play round robin;
2) The Big XII may get back to 12 teams, which would create divisional play again.  However there is always a chance that depending on where the next two teams come from, OU and OSU could be placed in the Big XII North Division;
K-State has come along way to not keep this going.  Someone on that staff needs to do some aggressive recruiting. 
3) It would seem clear from K-State's style of play, they could go to the midwest for recruitment, but would have to compete with the BIG for top players. 

An ugly reality is upon this program.  K-State must recruit better to maintain relevance in going head-to-head.  Even if the Big XII brings in 2 additional teams (which I don't see that happening, I expect this league to fold if super-conferences start forming), K-State has to aggressively recruit.

[Rams]

What I observed last night was the lackadaisical recruiting efforts by Coach Snyder finally catch up with him.  With the exception of Lockett (and I notice some say Hubert), Texas' athleticism overwhelmed K-State.

Here are my thoughts:

1) After the Big XII started divisional football, K-State was able to hang since they did not have to play round robin;
2) The Big XII may get back to 12 teams, which would create divisional play again.  However there is always a chance that depending on where the next two teams come from, OU and OSU could be placed in the Big XII North Division;
K-State has come along way to not keep this going.  Someone on that staff needs to do some aggressive recruiting. 
3) It would seem clear from K-State's style of play, they could go to the midwest for recruitment, but would have to compete with the BIG for top players. 

An ugly reality is upon this program.  K-State must recruit better to maintain relevance in going head-to-head.  Even if the Big XII brings in 2 additional teams (which I don't see that happening, I expect this league to fold if super-conferences start forming), K-State has to aggressively recruit.

interesting if true.

[kim carnes]

What I observed last night was the lackadaisical recruiting efforts by Coach Snyder finally catch up with him.  With the exception of Lockett (and I notice some say Hubert), Texas' athleticism overwhelmed K-State.

Here are my thoughts:

1) After the Big XII started divisional football, K-State was able to hang since they did not have to play round robin;
2) The Big XII may get back to 12 teams, which would create divisional play again.  However there is always a chance that depending on where the next two teams come from, OU and OSU could be placed in the Big XII North Division;
K-State has come along way to not keep this going.  Someone on that staff needs to do some aggressive recruiting. 
3) It would seem clear from K-State's style of play, they could go to the midwest for recruitment, but would have to compete with the BIG for top players. 

An ugly reality is upon this program.  K-State must recruit better to maintain relevance in going head-to-head.  Even if the Big XII brings in 2 additional teams (which I don't see that happening, I expect this league to fold if super-conferences start forming), K-State has to aggressively recruit.

you should change your name to functioningretard

[AndrewVonLintel]

We have all the talent we need to be 4-0.

We have to quit coaching like a dumbass.

[kim carnes]

We have all the talent we need to be 4-0.

We have to quit coaching like a dumbass.

so we need to fire snyder?  is that what you're saying?

[AndrewVonLintel]

no we need to quit trying to recreate Collin Klein with 2 QBs that are not Klein.

I will tell you when I think we should fire someone.

Fire Currie

Fire oscar

Fire Obama

[kim carnes]

no we need to quit trying to recreate Collin Klein with 2 QBs that are not Klein.

I will tell you when I think we should fire someone.

Fire Currie

Fire oscar

Fire Obama

fire snyder b/c u don't like what he is doing anymore is what you're saying.

[Cartierfor3]

I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.

so much bad last night, but man I hate that. They were doing check with me with the clock running under 40 seconds down 10.

[EMADUB]

Anybody watching the game on ESPNU? I always end up having a more positive outlook after I rewatch losses. Someone please tell me we still suck and it was more than some missed opportunities so I don't do this to myself.

[Cire]

Two bone headed and nearly inexplicable turnovers.

[sonofdaxjones]

On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands.   He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.

[ChiComCat]

On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands.   He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.

Unless it was supposed to be a handoff, I don't think you can reasonably fault that pitch

[ednksu]

On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands.   He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.

Unless it was supposed to be a handoff, I don't think you can reasonably fault that pitch

that turn over doesn't bother me on many levels, just an inherent risk of the option game.  every other turn over.....

[kso_FAN]

On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands.   He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.

Pitch was fine. But the number of speed option calls is the problem, especially considering the amount of success they had.

[Skipper44]

yep, the risk reward of a Waters-Hubes option is not in the Cats favor.   it's like they only have the play sheet from last year

[Trim]

On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands.   He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.

Pitch was fine. But the number of speed option calls is the problem, especially considering the amount of success they had.

I'd say he spiral-delivered it to Hubert fine, as far as it being a catchable ball.  His timing on this play and others was astonishing.  I've never seen a single defender have such an easy time covering both the quarterback and running back on the option.

[pvegs]

I think a draw or zone-read from Waters is okay a few times a game but the option just has to be put to rest this season. Running the option that many times with repeated failure was the coaches' version of a Roy McAvoy moment.

[Rams]

On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands.   He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.

Pitch was fine. But the number of speed option calls is the problem, especially considering the amount of success they had.

I'd say he spiral-delivered it to Hubert fine, as far as it being a catchable ball.  His timing on this play and others was astonishing.  I've never seen a single defender have such an easy time covering both the quarterback and running back on the option.

yes, in that they don't have to cover the quarterback at all because he's scared of contact and can't rough ridin' run and everyone knows it.

[ksufan44]

What if Bill is taking a page out of Frank's old playbook? Starting/playing Waters to prove a point to Sams, Ojeleye style.

[Dugout DickStone]

Has anyone considered that Bill threw this game for Mack?