FYI Seaton Hall . . .

[ShellShock]

Well, being the smartest person in my homework groups always helped me, because teaching someone improves how well you understand the concepts. I think group work is great, I just question Nkilt's furniture being necessary in a classroom (due to what a small percentage of work is done in a classroom). It would be fantastic in libraries and study areas or whatever, though.

If the tables were set up that way to just listen to a lecture then I would 100% agree that they aren't necessary.  The new setup is removing the full-blown lecture from the classroom and creating a different style of teaching.  More work is done in the classroom.  If there are lectures, a lot of it is put on the student to watch online when they go home.  Class time is when problems and discussions happen to apply what was discussed from the lecture videos.  Once again...adding accountability to the student and providing time during class to ask questions and solve problems.

I'm just glad I already have my degree. That sounds awful.

Some of my friends are going out to the bars and ask if I can come along. "No, guys, I have to finish up some homework and then read a chapter of this Mechanics of Materials textbook for the quiz tomorrow. No, K-State did away with the lectures where somebody actually teaches you the material. Now you just read the book, take a quiz, and then carry dead weight for the rest of the hour."

ditto

While this would be great for a certain number of classes (Statics with Gerth, Soils with the drunk russian, basically any pud non-engineering GenEd course), the majority would be terrible...Can you imagine trying to teach yourself the calc classes or matrix theory or dynamics or thermo?

[8manpick]

ditto

While this would be great for a certain number of classes (Statics with Gerth, Soils with the drunk russian, basically any pud non-engineering GenEd course), the majority would be terrible...Can you imagine trying to teach yourself the calc classes or matrix theory or dynamics or thermo?

Yes. And the great thing about lectures like that is that if you did understand the material just from reading the book and doing the problem set, you didn't have to waste your time going to that lecture.

Dumbing down education for the mindless idiots that lack the attention span to learn from the combination of a lecture and a textbook isn't the answer.

[Daddy Claxton]

Isn't the whole collaborative/team work style just particular to Millenials, and no other generation has craved or been suited for it?  Is Gen-Z, or whatever they are going to call it, going to look at these new 'scale up' classrooms and have the same reaction as the Gen-X'rs: why would I want to carry the dead weight? Or is the Millenials' uniqueness expected to carry on to the next generation?

[Belvis Noland]

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Seaton Hall isn't going to have this scale-up crap.  All it needs is some autocad and balsa wood and everything will be a-ok. 

Now, renderings of Seaton Hall. 

[3maw]

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Seaton Hall isn't going to have this scale-up crap.  All it needs is some autocad and balsa wood and everything will be a-ok. 

Now, renderings of Seaton Hall.

trying to pester insider sources to find renderings, no luck yet. might help to ping DScott to get his dad to send some drawings over.

[3maw]

getting access to vid later of renderings of seaton. will post link. heard jaw dropping (new seaton and vid)

[mocat]

getting access to vid later of renderings of seaton. will post link. heard jaw dropping (new seaton and vid)

[Mr Bread]

Well, being the smartest person in my homework groups always helped me, because teaching someone improves how well you understand the concepts.

I don't agree with this at all.

[michigancat]

Well, being the smartest person in my homework groups always helped me, because teaching someone improves how well you understand the concepts.

I don't agree with this at all.

may not apply to pud majors like *insert bread's major here*.

Keep in mind, I'm talking about everyone doing their own work, but doing it at the same time asking each other questions, and talking through everything. It's not like a one person does the work for everyone else thing.

[mocat]

Well, being the smartest person in my homework groups always helped me, because teaching someone improves how well you understand the concepts.

I don't agree with this at all.

I totally agree with michypoo here. Talking it out is only good for you

[Mr Bread]

Well, being the smartest person in my homework groups always helped me, because teaching someone improves how well you understand the concepts.

I don't agree with this at all.

I totally agree with michypoo here. Talking it out is only good for you

It isn't good for you if it's unnecessary.  It could for example be a waste of time if you already know it.  Will it hurt you?  No.  Is it inefficient for some in certain circumstances?  Absolutely.  The point is it isn't always so rough ridin' great.   

[michigancat]

It isn't good for you if it's unnecessary.  It could for example be a waste of time if you already know it.  Will it hurt you?  No.  Is it inefficient for some in certain circumstances?  Absolutely.  The point is it isn't always so rough ridin' great.   

Like I sort of alluded to, in most of my classes, NO ONE really "knew it" without a fairly significant amount of work. Also, just about everything you could master in an earlier class would really help you down the line. So even if you thought you really knew it, you weren't wasting your time to try and knowing it better.

In my humanities classes, I doubt it would have helped me, and I don't really remember spending any time studying in groups in those classes. But I did in just about all my engineering classes.

[Mr Bread]

It isn't good for you if it's unnecessary.  It could for example be a waste of time if you already know it.  Will it hurt you?  No.  Is it inefficient for some in certain circumstances?  Absolutely.  The point is it isn't always so rough ridin' great.   

Like I sort of alluded to, in most of my classes, NO ONE really "knew it" without a fairly significant amount of work. Also, just about everything you could master in an earlier class would really help you down the line. So even if you thought you really knew it, you weren't wasting your time to try and knowing it better.

In my humanities classes, I doubt it would have helped me, and I don't really remember spending any time studying in groups in those classes. But I did in just about all my engineering classes.

I knew you'd get there.  Good thing we talked it through. 

[michigancat]

GROUP WORK, MR. BREAD

[ChiComCat]

This group studying stuff sounds like bullshit.  Then again, I was a business major so it probably just was for me.

[eastcat]

Eastcat with the latest crap imaginable as usual.


 

[GoodForAnother]

Eastcat with the latest crap imaginable as usual.


 

wow

[3maw]

 

 

 

 

[EMAWican]

Needs more powercats.  Should've been in the specs at minimum one per four square feet.  But crly 

[3maw]

welcome to CIS!   moving over to phase 4 and joining other bro engineers!

[yoga-like_abana]

 

 

 

 

man, thats ugly

[raquetcat]

I bet Carl Ice is putting in some serious dough for this

"Where's your next class?"
"Is over in the sweet new engineering building, Ice hall"

[sonofdaxjones]

You guys know that future plans call for turning that parking lot between Engineering and Biology into a Science Quad??

[Rage Against the McKee]

You guys know that future plans call for turning that parking lot between Engineering and Biology into a Science Quad??

That sounds elite.

[hemmy]

*snip*

man, thats ugly

Nope, amazing.