Author Topic: The KU Rayhawks are NOT going through a rough patch. They make Raytown, Missouri proud! (Read 3933881 times)

MakeItRain · « **Reply #22425 on:** March 10, 2021, 12:04:17 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 10, 2021, 06:15:40 AM

Herman is a great target. Really depends how badly he wants to be a P5 HC again.

He would have a much easier path to this be becoming an analyst or position coach for one of the mega programs, which is why I am surprised that he became an analyst in the NFL. If a coach wins 4-5 games at KU, for at least two years, they would then be in line for a next tier job, outside of the top 25 jobs, like Louisville, Arizona, South Florida, NC State, etc. There are much easier ways to get a job like that, like the aforementioned working under Saban, Dabo, Kirby, Mullen, Kelly the Murderer, or just getting a head coaching job with a G5 school and make a bowl or two. He wouldn't have to do much at a G5 school to get a mid tier FBS job. Winning at Kansas is by far the hardest of these paths to get back to a good P5 job.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22426 on:** March 10, 2021, 12:10:55 PM »

Have to admire Long's balls. Not just telling everyone he wasn't Les's friend, to hiring a buddy's outside search firm to find someone crazy enough to take the job.

Problem with promoting in house for interim is recruiting.

DQ12 · « **Reply #22427 on:** March 10, 2021, 12:30:58 PM »

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2021, 12:10:55 PM

Have to admire Long's balls. Not just telling everyone he wasn't Les's friend, to hiring a buddy's outside search firm to find someone crazy enough to take the job.

Problem with promoting in house for interim is recruiting.

Which is why you don’t call him an interim and treat him like he’s the guy, but just give him a meager buyout. Take the PR hit, but at least you maintain the roster. And are Elliot/DeBord/Jones really that less qualified than Kevin Kane, Illinois’ new OLB coach?

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22428 on:** March 10, 2021, 12:33:34 PM »

If you don't call him "interim" but fire him after a single season the PRI hit will be far more than either Long or a dogshit program lie KU football can handle.

wiley · « **Reply #22429 on:** March 10, 2021, 12:37:35 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 09, 2021, 01:24:41 PM

Quote from: wiley on March 09, 2021, 12:53:15 PM
Maybe this happened prior to the allegations, but Mile to Go is no longer on ESPN+

It's like a dead link on the Big12 page and searching nets zero results.

If did not get killed prior to the allegations. I watched Big 12 Now on Sunday and it was sitting there, prominently displayed on the homepage. I clicked it to see if it was still active because it was a hell of an oversight and it was still active as of like 4PM on Sunday.

Oddly enough, clips/highlights/previews are available now. At least as of a few hours ago.

DQ12 · « **Reply #22430 on:** March 10, 2021, 12:47:24 PM »

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2021, 12:33:34 PM

If you don't call him "interim" but fire him after a single season the PRI hit will be far more than either Long or a dogshit program lie KU football can handle.

meh. KU's already pretty scandalized.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22431 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:00:36 PM »

Giving a coach a single season with a super low buyout is pretty frowned upon

DQ12 · « **Reply #22432 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:16:44 PM »

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2021, 01:00:36 PM

Giving a coach a single season with a super low buyout is pretty frowned upon

three year contract with super low buyout is copacetic. beaty's first contract was like 750k/yr and nobody gave a crap.

Pete · « **Reply #22433 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:28:01 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 10, 2021, 11:15:53 AM

Quote from: DQ12 on March 10, 2021, 11:05:33 AM
anyone want to surmise a guess as to who was Tom Herman's best man at his wedding?

KU isn't getting herman.

Well now I am intrigued. Was it David Beaty?

I bet it was LHC Bill Snyder. Bill hates KU, so his close personal friend Tom does too.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22434 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:28:38 PM »

Quote from: DQ12 on March 10, 2021, 01:16:44 PM

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2021, 01:00:36 PM
Giving a coach a single season with a super low buyout is pretty frowned upon
three year contract with super low buyout is copacetic. beaty's first contract was like 750k/yr and nobody gave a crap.

Firing after a single season is not.

ben ji · « **Reply #22435 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:48:03 PM »

Quote from: DQ12 on March 10, 2021, 11:05:33 AM

anyone want to surmise a guess as to who was Tom Herman's best man at his wedding?

KU isn't getting herman.

Zach Smith? (The OSU coach who beat up his wife or something then got in a verbal spat with Herman on the tweeter...I believe their wives are BFF's)

BIG APPLE CAT · « **Reply #22436 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:10:57 PM »

Quote from: DQ12 on March 10, 2021, 11:05:33 AM

anyone want to surmise a guess as to who was Tom Herman's best man at his wedding?

KU isn't getting herman.

was it jerry kill or am i thinking of gary patterson? i feel like jerry kill was definitely someone's best man

Shooter Jones · « **Reply #22437 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:13:16 PM »

If Tom Herman has shaved his beard back into a goatee since the KU job opened up, you know he's interested.

Institutional Control · « **Reply #22438 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:14:01 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 10, 2021, 09:23:44 AM

TG should have been given more time. It was really amazing watching KU fans act like they were some kind of power football school because of one really good season when they got to avoid every good team from the South, and weren't good enough to beat MU and go to the CCG. I do think TG would have ended up getting fired, but you don't fire a guy after 2 years and then go hire a guy who was clearly only hanging on for paychecks.

If I'm them, I'm going after Herman. Herman owned K-State. Herman was 4-0 in bowl games. It's a situation where if the next coach has any kind of success they'll be an absolute rock star.

Orange Bowl winners!

Shooter Jones · « **Reply #22439 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:38:08 PM »

Whoa, they just fired Long.

Spracne · « **Reply #22440 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:39:56 PM »

Good!

DQ12 · « **Reply #22441 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:42:07 PM »

i'm pretty sure it was beaty

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22442 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:43:32 PM »

They should do something super stupid like hiring a former football or basketball player.

Shooter Jones · « **Reply #22443 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:45:17 PM »

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on March 10, 2021, 02:43:32 PM

They should do something super stupid like hiring a former football or basketball player.

Bill Self to AD, Danny Manning to bball hc, and Todd Reesing to fb hc.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22444 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:50:09 PM »

Bill would be a good AD but he doesn't want that job. It would be a step down

MadCat · « **Reply #22445 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:52:24 PM »

Sparkles Awaits

manpow5 · « **Reply #22446 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:56:03 PM »

Wasn't there a pool on who would last longer, Klieman or Les and all the KU stans were absolutely positive Les would pound Klieman every year and would run him out of Manhattan?

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22447 on:** March 10, 2021, 02:56:32 PM »

So, you do like a package deal now like we essentially did? Find a non-P5 that is whipping ass and bring both their their AD and coach.

Brock Landers · « **Reply #22448 on:** March 10, 2021, 03:01:09 PM »

Wow, a coach search and an AD search all at the same time! They're so lucky.

wetwillie · « **Reply #22449 on:** March 10, 2021, 03:02:39 PM »

Damn dude shits getting real