The KU Rayhawks are NOT going through a rough patch. They make Raytown, Missouri proud!

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Heard weis on the border patrol.  said "Baylor just out athlete's you".  Love it when he says stuff like that.

what a loser

[SkinnyBenny]

Needs more time to get some more athletes in there.

[wabash909]

Charlie was really breathing heavy during that interview.

[CNS]

Charlie was really breathing heavy during that interview.

Sounded sweaty

[Dugout DickStone]

Recruiting athletes to Lawrence is extremely hard.

[420seriouscat69]

Recruiting athletes to Lawrence is extremely hard.

Especially when you know the fans won't be out there to support you.

Do I go:

A. Where a pak'd stadium is screaming and cheering my name

or

B. An empty stadium with a track, in smelly Lawrence, where all the fans are over watching a bball practice.


WOOF!

[wetwillie]

The breads are about to lose 18 straight league games if penn state holds on in the fourth. Change thread title soon ?

[Panjandrum]

The breads are about to lose 18 straight league games if penn state holds on in the fourth. Change thread title soon ?

Breads took the lead!

[wetwillie]

The breads are about to lose 18 straight league games if penn state holds on in the fourth. Change thread title soon ?

Breads took the lead!

Yikes.

[everyone shut up]

Perspective: guys it's bad

Big XII records
1996 2-6 Mason
1997 3-5 Allen
1998 1-7 Allen
1999 3-5 Allen
2000 2-6 Allen
2001 1-7 Allen
2002 0-8 Mangino
2003 3-5 Mangino
2004 2-6 Mangino
2005 3-5 Mangino
2006 3-5 Mangino
2007 7-1 Mangino
2008 4-4 Mangino
2009 1-7 Mangino
2010 1-8 Gill
2011 0-9 Gill
2012 0-9 Weis
2013 0-5 Weis (so far)
Big 12 totals 36-107

0 football victories in Waco, TX (all-time)
0-10 against the Texas Longhorns in BigXII play (outscored 436-145)
1 winning BigXII conference campaign
1 .500 BigXII conference campaign
3 winless BigXII conference campaigns
3 two-win BigXII conference campaigns
4 single-win BigXII conference campaigns
8-52 against the "South" in BigXII play
14 years in BigXII era losing 1 or more non-con game(s)
15 losing BigXII conference campaigns
19 victories over final Top20/25 teams in 106 years of football
25 game current conference losing streak
45 (1968) years since sharing a conference championship (LBJ was President)
83 (1930) years since winning a conference title outright (Hoover was President)

November 6, 2010: last win against a BCS and/or BigXII opponent

September 12, 2009: @ UTEP: last road victory


November 29, 2008 vs. Missouri (Arrowhead): last time KU defeated an opponent that finished in the final Top 25

October 4, 2008: last conference road victory (George W. Bush was President)

September 13, 1997 vs. Missouri: last time KU defeated a conference opponent at home that was currently ranked and finished in final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was President)

October 7, 1995 @ Colorado: last road victory for KU over an opponent that finished in the final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was in his 1st term)

21 years for KU to defeat 6 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa

30 years for KU to defeat 8 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top20/25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa , 1984 #6 Oklahoma, 1981 #19 Missouri (Ronald Reagan was in his 1st term as President)

t's and p's lil bro

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

wow

[kim carnes]

Perspective: guys it's bad

Big XII records
1996 2-6 Mason
1997 3-5 Allen
1998 1-7 Allen
1999 3-5 Allen
2000 2-6 Allen
2001 1-7 Allen
2002 0-8 Mangino
2003 3-5 Mangino
2004 2-6 Mangino
2005 3-5 Mangino
2006 3-5 Mangino
2007 7-1 Mangino
2008 4-4 Mangino
2009 1-7 Mangino
2010 1-8 Gill
2011 0-9 Gill
2012 0-9 Weis
2013 0-5 Weis (so far)
Big 12 totals 36-107

0 football victories in Waco, TX (all-time)
0-10 against the Texas Longhorns in BigXII play (outscored 436-145)
1 winning BigXII conference campaign
1 .500 BigXII conference campaign
3 winless BigXII conference campaigns
3 two-win BigXII conference campaigns
4 single-win BigXII conference campaigns
8-52 against the "South" in BigXII play
14 years in BigXII era losing 1 or more non-con game(s)
15 losing BigXII conference campaigns
19 victories over final Top20/25 teams in 106 years of football
25 game current conference losing streak
45 (1968) years since sharing a conference championship (LBJ was President)
83 (1930) years since winning a conference title outright (Hoover was President)

November 6, 2010: last win against a BCS and/or BigXII opponent

September 12, 2009: @ UTEP: last road victory


November 29, 2008 vs. Missouri (Arrowhead): last time KU defeated an opponent that finished in the final Top 25

October 4, 2008: last conference road victory (George W. Bush was President)

September 13, 1997 vs. Missouri: last time KU defeated a conference opponent at home that was currently ranked and finished in final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was President)

October 7, 1995 @ Colorado: last road victory for KU over an opponent that finished in the final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was in his 1st term)

21 years for KU to defeat 6 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa

30 years for KU to defeat 8 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top20/25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa , 1984 #6 Oklahoma, 1981 #19 Missouri (Ronald Reagan was in his 1st term as President)

t's and p's lil bro

worst CFB program in history

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I wonder if Charlie is pissed that with all the money splashed on the basketball program, he can't find one booster in that town to buy him a few players. I guess they already spent it on Charlie and figured he'd do the rest. Those retread QBs are working out well.

[bones129]

Perspective: guys it's bad

Big XII records
1996 2-6 Mason
1997 3-5 Allen
1998 1-7 Allen
1999 3-5 Allen
2000 2-6 Allen
2001 1-7 Allen
2002 0-8 Mangino
2003 3-5 Mangino
2004 2-6 Mangino
2005 3-5 Mangino
2006 3-5 Mangino
2007 7-1 Mangino
2008 4-4 Mangino
2009 1-7 Mangino
2010 1-8 Gill
2011 0-9 Gill
2012 0-9 Weis
2013 0-5 Weis (so far)
Big 12 totals 36-107

0 football victories in Waco, TX (all-time)
0-10 against the Texas Longhorns in BigXII play (outscored 436-145)
1 winning BigXII conference campaign
1 .500 BigXII conference campaign
3 winless BigXII conference campaigns
3 two-win BigXII conference campaigns
4 single-win BigXII conference campaigns
8-52 against the "South" in BigXII play
14 years in BigXII era losing 1 or more non-con game(s)
15 losing BigXII conference campaigns
19 victories over final Top20/25 teams in 106 years of football
25 game current conference losing streak
45 (1968) years since sharing a conference championship (LBJ was President)
83 (1930) years since winning a conference title outright (Hoover was President)

November 6, 2010: last win against a BCS and/or BigXII opponent

September 12, 2009: @ UTEP: last road victory


November 29, 2008 vs. Missouri (Arrowhead): last time KU defeated an opponent that finished in the final Top 25

October 4, 2008: last conference road victory (George W. Bush was President)

September 13, 1997 vs. Missouri: last time KU defeated a conference opponent at home that was currently ranked and finished in final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was President)

October 7, 1995 @ Colorado: last road victory for KU over an opponent that finished in the final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was in his 1st term)

21 years for KU to defeat 6 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa

30 years for KU to defeat 8 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top20/25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa , 1984 #6 Oklahoma, 1981 #19 Missouri (Ronald Reagan was in his 1st term as President)

t's and p's lil bro

worst CFB program in history

Pathetic program, and it's only getting worse.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Man, for some reason I thought they had a better record than that under Mangino, but I guess it was just that year with the perfect schedule.

[michigancat]

One winning big 12 season?

Holy crap!

[wetwillie]

Surely terry allen would at least pick up the phone?

[ChiComCat]

Snyder has won 24 conference games in his 2nd stint alone.  KU has 36 in the history of the conference.  Just awful

[Katpappy]

Must interrupt this thread with breaking update:  TCU beat by VWU.  They are rough ridin' terrible. 

[kst8cat]

I'm sorry, but I don't see one coach who deserves to keep his job after Shitshow Dumpster Fire 2.0.  This 'program' is an absolute failure.  Anyone trying vainly to point out how they were confident that one aspect of KU football is about to turn the corner is lying. 

KU needs the equivalent of USMC Boot Camp to get back on track.  Not some fat guy who sucked at this last two jobs.  Not some completely lost former Nubs star.  Mangino had one really good season and a lot of losses, but at this point he's the freaking Vince Lombardi of all KU coaches since Mason. 

KU football is an abomination.  They're an affront to football, an insult.  I guess the silver lining is that mu isn't part of this humiliation.  We're not going to beat ISU or KSU this year, I'm not saying that to be negative I'm saying this because we look like a bunch of clueless idiots on the football field.

[kst8cat]

Our program is going nowhere fast with CW IMO. Two 5 star QB's can't get it done who the hell can? While we're looking the same every frickin game, the old man down the road about 90 miles to the west keeps sawing wood and getting better. Same ol chit. I'm sick of it. The purples will roll into town and it's gonna be ugly.

[kst8cat]

It might get kind of better next year. Like four wins, maybe? But due to Charlie's recruiting strategy we basically have no young talent in the Freshman and Sophmore classes. Last year's freshman class was absolutely tiny. So there's most likely gonna be a big issue after next year because we signed a bunch of Juco kids. Weis told us he was signing a bunch of Juco kids to win now and really all that it's accomplished is make it much harder to win in the future.

[kst8cat]

(at this point, I'd settle for Terry Allen-like seasons).

As a KU student through those hard, hard years, the fact that I agree with this completely angers me to the point of tears.  I didn't think KU football could get worse than the Terry Allen era, but the last three and a half seasons have shown how wrong I was.

[deputy dawg]

It might get kind of better next year. Like four wins, maybe? But due to Charlie's recruiting strategy we basically have no young talent in the Freshman and Sophmore classes. Last year's freshman class was absolutely tiny. So there's most likely gonna be a big issue after next year because we signed a bunch of Juco kids. Weis told us he was signing a bunch of Juco kids to win now and really all that it's accomplished is make it much harder to win in the future.

Operation Cheyenne Zulu working as planned...

[Scary Smart]

Our last 100 games
Before our loss yesterday our record over the last 100 games is 43-57. Not too bad until you break it down by sets of 50 games:

Last 50 games: 8-42
Previous 50 games: 35-15 with 8 of the 15 losses coming by 10 points or less.

It is easy to see how outside of the hardcore supporters KU Football has become completely irrelevant.