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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2013, 11:00:10 AM »
Don't choose your MBA based on the level of football the college plays.

that's actually a pretty decent reason imo. pick your favorite sport and then pick the school that's best at it and boom you have another school to follow and nobody can give you crap because ummm, i mean, look at the wall.

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2013, 11:02:10 AM »
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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2013, 11:14:29 AM »
Don't choose your MBA based on the level of football the college plays.

that's actually a pretty decent reason imo. pick your favorite sport and then pick the school that's best at it and boom you have another school to follow and nobody can give you crap because ummm, i mean look at the wall.

Also, your next boss may really like whatevs football school you choose and give you preferential treatment for that. 

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« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2013, 11:19:22 AM »
Wow that's cheap, and short, and no real pre requisites, might have to seriously consider it if I transfer

I'm sure there are other schools with similar costs/requirements. Maybe you can even find one with a good football program!

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Re: Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2013, 11:23:51 AM »
just think about this... for the next thirty to forty years you will occasionally have to answer the question "so where did you get your mba from?" if you are ok saying "online through wayne state" then get it online through wayne state.

if not, then think long and hard about how much money, time and effort you are willing to put into this. if it's just a box to check for your job or whatever and it's pretty common place for people to do that then great. if not then why bother?
This is one of the main things that's holding me back, I don't really want to defend a degree from Wayne state or fort Hays, but at the same time I don't feel like CSU's or any other state school's education is worth twice as much...
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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2013, 12:03:27 PM »
to be honest here, in some ways i look at people who waste their time/money on an MBA today as worse candidates than those that weren't dumb enough to fall into the trap.  a good portion of MBA graduate programs today are nothing more than for-profit degree factories.  the course of study is not difficult and the degree has become diluted to the point that it holds a negative value.

unless you're going to a top 10 program.  i obviously think of those programs in a different light, as people should.

Uh, all of them are for-profit...why do you think Harvard has the largest and one of the most expensive MBA programs?
Top 10ish programs give you more options throughout the country, represent large salary increases, and give you a pretty sweet alumni network.
Top 25ish programs are more regionally connected, but still offer pretty substantial salary increases for most industries.
Beyond top 25ish, a complete waste of $.

FWIW - From what I've experienced, MBAs at the top schools are so geared toward consultant type that if you plan on staying at your current (non-consulting) job, don't waste your time. IMO, the whole point of top 25 MBA is to label yourself as smart and successful in order to impress clients, not your boss or coworkers - your work will do that.
 

ya they're all for profit, that's what i said.  thanks- you must have gone to one of the good schools.  finish the sentence i wrote.  for profit degree factories- the implication is that you go through, pay your $$ way too much per credit hour fee and leave with a worthless degree that will offer no incremental career advancement beyond what your actual working experience would have. 

the top 10 programs, as i have repeatedly pointed out, offer much more than that, including the opportunity to network with the people whom place dollar value in the degree.

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2013, 12:06:09 PM »
As someone that has been in the field of academia and private practice, I can tell you that where you got your degree does matter but only in the eyes of academics.  For example, when I was a post-doc, I was responsible for admitting new graduate students that will work under me for 3 years (and my facilitating professor).  When we met, we threw out all online applications due to perceived level of time committment.  We weren't going to bring in and pay for students that aren't used to a rigid schedule.  School on your own time is great, but not for grad school.

In the realm of business, our private practice (through the state of Iowa) just interviewed for an administrative position.  The candidate that had the best resume attended school online through Auburn University at Montgomery.  They obtained their master's there and they had a stacked resume in addition. 

This is two sides to the same question but academics tend to look down on online degree (transfer credits are a whole different beast), but (I can only speak for our practice) we didn't look down on it for our practice.
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Re: Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2013, 12:08:15 PM »
just think about this... for the next thirty to forty years you will occasionally have to answer the question "so where did you get your mba from?" if you are ok saying "online through wayne state" then get it online through wayne state.

if not, then think long and hard about how much money, time and effort you are willing to put into this. if it's just a box to check for your job or whatever and it's pretty common place for people to do that then great. if not then why bother?
This is one of the main things that's holding me back, I don't really want to defend a degree from Wayne state or fort Hays, but at the same time I don't feel like CSU's or any other state school's education is worth twice as much...

Make no mistake, Wayne State is actually a good school.  Fort Hays State (meh), but Wayne State has tremendous programs where many of the graduates there with higher level advanced degrees go on to become faculty at more "prestigious" universities.
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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2013, 12:09:15 PM »
including the opportunity to network with the people whom place dollar value in the degree.


this seems like the biggest advantage re: top 10. dunno.

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2013, 12:09:22 PM »
As someone that has been in the field of academia and private practice, I can tell you that where you got your degree does matter but only in the eyes of academics.  For example, when I was a post-doc, I was responsible for admitting new graduate students that will work under me for 3 years (and my facilitating professor).  When we met, we threw out all online applications due to perceived level of time committment.  We weren't going to bring in and pay for students that aren't used to a rigid schedule.  School on your own time is great, but not for grad school.

In the realm of business, our private practice (through the state of Iowa) just interviewed for an administrative position.  The candidate that had the best resume attended school online through Auburn University at Montgomery.  They obtained their master's there and they had a stacked resume in addition. 

This is two sides to the same question but academics tend to look down on online degree (transfer credits are a whole different beast), but (I can only speak for our practice) we didn't look down on it for our practice.

we're talking about MBA's here


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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #60 on: July 30, 2013, 12:09:34 PM »
including the opportunity to network with the people whom place dollar value in the degree.


this seems like the biggest advantage re: top 10. dunno.
no doubt


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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #61 on: July 30, 2013, 01:03:44 PM »
Just stick with CSU.  Sure it's pricey but in the grand scheme of things over your career $15K is nothing.  Basically it's a small percentage of one year's pay.    Plus transferring in the middle of a program just seems like a hassle and might set you back some progress anyway.

It's kind of like I told my buddy who is balking at the $10K it's going to cost him in fertility treatments so his wife can have a baby.  It's going to cost him several 100K to raise a kid and get him through college in the long run $10K more is nothing.  You can spend that on day care in the first year.

You're going to earn millions of dollars in your lifetime in the long run $15K more to maybe help further your career is nothing.  I mean if you can make just $5k more per year with the CSU degree then it pays for itself in three years.   

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #62 on: July 30, 2013, 01:22:36 PM »
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« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2013, 02:20:08 PM »
just think about this... for the next thirty to forty years you will occasionally have to answer the question "so where did you get your mba from?" if you are ok saying "online through wayne state" then get it online through wayne state.

if not, then think long and hard about how much money, time and effort you are willing to put into this. if it's just a box to check for your job or whatever and it's pretty common place for people to do that then great. if not then why bother?
This is one of the main things that's holding me back, I don't really want to defend a degree from Wayne state or fort Hays, but at the same time I don't feel like CSU's or any other state school's education is worth twice as much...

Make no mistake, Wayne State is actually a good school.  Fort Hays State (meh), but Wayne State has tremendous programs where many of the graduates there with higher level advanced degrees go on to become faculty at more "prestigious" universities.

Are we talking about the same Wayne state? I'm talking about the Wayne state college in Nebraska...
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Re: Re: Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #64 on: July 30, 2013, 02:29:48 PM »
just think about this... for the next thirty to forty years you will occasionally have to answer the question "so where did you get your mba from?" if you are ok saying "online through wayne state" then get it online through wayne state.

if not, then think long and hard about how much money, time and effort you are willing to put into this. if it's just a box to check for your job or whatever and it's pretty common place for people to do that then great. if not then why bother?
This is one of the main things that's holding me back, I don't really want to defend a degree from Wayne state or fort Hays, but at the same time I don't feel like CSU's or any other state school's education is worth twice as much...

Make no mistake, Wayne State is actually a good school.  Fort Hays State (meh), but Wayne State has tremendous programs where many of the graduates there with higher level advanced degrees go on to become faculty at more "prestigious" universities.

Are we talking about the same Wayne state? I'm talking about the Wayne state college in Nebraska...

Wayne State in Michigan.  I have no idea about Wayne State College.  Our practice didn't care where our new hire got their MBA, it was just something we were after.  Academics care more about where you got it than most businesses (outside of the top 25 or so MBA programs).
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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #65 on: July 30, 2013, 02:33:04 PM »
One of my favorite parts of this thread is how few people actually read what was posted before they posted.

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #66 on: July 30, 2013, 03:52:29 PM »
Don't choose your MBA based on the level of football the college plays.

that's actually a pretty decent reason imo. pick your favorite sport and then pick the school that's best at it and boom you have another school to follow and nobody can give you crap because ummm, i mean, look at the wall.

Looks like I need to get an MBA from Ohio State. RingsForTattooAggie here I come!  :drool:

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2013, 04:02:59 PM »
One of my favorite parts of this thread is how few people actually read what was posted before they posted.

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2013, 04:03:14 PM »
Let the MBA come to you.

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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2013, 11:52:10 PM »
I really do feel like my Masters helped me out in a few areas. Polishing up public speaking, grammar (I know, laugh it up), and business critical thinking. K-State is such a close knit school with our professors. I think they let me get away with too much, cause most of them knew who I was, by being an ambassador for the journalism school. They should have really docked me for my written grammar, so I could have got on top of it ahead of time.

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« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2013, 08:25:27 AM »
I really do feel like my Masters helped me out in a few areas. Polishing up public speaking, grammar (I know, laugh it up), and business critical thinking. K-State is such a close knit school with our professors. I think they let me get away with too much, cause most of them knew who I was, by being an ambassador for the journalism school. They should have really docked me for my written grammar, so I could have got on top of it ahead of time.

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« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2013, 08:49:05 AM »
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Re: Does it matter where you get a MBA?
« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2013, 08:55:13 AM »
One of my good buddies from HS got a degree in Finance from KU and had a pretty sweet job down in Dallas. Just quit his job and will be taking on around 160k in student loans to get an MBA from Cornell....Not something I would do but good for him.

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« Reply #73 on: July 31, 2013, 09:09:22 AM »
One of my good buddies from HS got a degree in Finance from KU and had a pretty sweet job down in Dallas. Just quit his job and will be taking on around 160k in student loans to get an MBA from Cornell....Not something I would do but good for him.
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« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2013, 09:20:30 AM »
One of my good buddies from HS got a degree in Finance from KU and had a pretty sweet job down in Dallas. Just quit his job and will be taking on around 160k in student loans to get an MBA from Cornell....Not something I would do but good for him.

what you've described is actually not good for him


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