Sorry Michael Hastings . . .

[OregonSmock]

Sad.

Journalistic Freedoom!!!  . . . Unless their investigating and exposing the corruption and attack on civil liberties by a Progressive Liberal Presidency.

WTF are you talking about?  By the way, please look up the difference between "their" and "they're."  It would also help if you could actually spell the word "freedom."


 

When you become the grammar and spelling police on a message board, you've lost.

All I'm saying is that your psycho babble might be easier to read if you were functionally literate.

[sonofdaxjones]

Sad.

Journalistic Freedoom!!!  . . . Unless their investigating and exposing the corruption and attack on civil liberties by a Progressive Liberal Presidency.

WTF are you talking about?  By the way, please look up the difference between "their" and "they're."  It would also help if you could actually spell the word "freedom."


 

When you become the grammar and spelling police on a message board, you've lost.

All I'm saying is that your psycho babble might be easier to read if you were functionally literate.

Just because you're all pissed off at the the lie that was "Hope and Change" and left with nitpicking a fat fingered extra "e" and the usage of "they're" and "their" (and in the context I was thinking, I don't think I was incorrect in its usage) . . . doesn't mean you have to go all passive aggressive/bi-polar on me . . . friend.

[OregonSmock]

Sad.

Journalistic Freedoom!!!  . . . Unless their investigating and exposing the corruption and attack on civil liberties by a Progressive Liberal Presidency.

WTF are you talking about?  By the way, please look up the difference between "their" and "they're."  It would also help if you could actually spell the word "freedom."


 

When you become the grammar and spelling police on a message board, you've lost.

All I'm saying is that your psycho babble might be easier to read if you were functionally literate.

Just because you're all pissed off at the the lie that was "Hope and Change" and left with nitpicking a fat fingered extra "e" and the usage of "they're" and "their" (and in the context I was thinking, I don't think I was incorrect in its usage) . . . doesn't mean you have to go all passive aggressive/bi-polar on me . . . friend.

Sorry, Dax.  It just irritates me that an otherwise intelligent person thinks that President Obama is responsible for the death of a really courageous journalist like Michael Hastings.  I realize that the government is an over-bloated, bureaucratic mess, but come on, man. 

As for grammar, just remember that "they're" is a combination of "they are."  "Their" is possessive (belongs to someone), and "there" is a place. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben, most Obama supporters actually believed things like FISA, indefinite detention, Patriot Act and things of that ilk would disappear once he became president.    The exact oppossite happend.

Most Obama supporters actually believed the "most transparent administration in history", the exact oppossite has happened.

and on and on and on.

Now, the most significant domestic spying case by the gov't in US history.

[Paul Moscow]

Ben, most Obama supporters actually believed things like FISA, indefinite detention, Patriot Act and things of that ilk would disappear once he became president.    The exact oppossite happend.

Most Obama supporters actually believed the "most transparent administration in history", the exact oppossite has happened.

and on and on and on.

Now, the most significant domestic spying case by the gov't in US history.

Right and that's mostly all true but I'm not sure how you can claim that progressives have not already noticed this. Hastings and other journos of his ilk, Taibbi, Greenwald, Scahill, etc, etc, have been all over the administration and have laid blame directly to Obama in many cases. But you're suggesting that there's evidence that there is a serious effort to ruin Hastings credibility in order to protect the fact that Obama killed him and that its the progressives who are behind it?

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben, most Obama supporters actually believed things like FISA, indefinite detention, Patriot Act and things of that ilk would disappear once he became president.    The exact oppossite happend.

Most Obama supporters actually believed the "most transparent administration in history", the exact oppossite has happened.

and on and on and on.

Now, the most significant domestic spying case by the gov't in US history.

Right and that's mostly all true but I'm not sure how you can claim that progressives have not already noticed this. Hastings and other journos of his ilk, Taibbi, Greenwald, Scahill, etc, etc, have been all over the administration and have laid blame directly to Obama in many cases. But you're suggesting that there's evidence that there is a serious effort to ruin Hastings credibility in order to protect the fact that Obama killed him and that its the progressives who are behind it?

Maybe not in general (at least outside of this board), but their are noted left leaners in the MSM who sound like they're, well, relieved . . . and this has been yet another hallmark story which shows how far many of them are in the tank for this administration.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/jeff-cohen/50281/snowden-coverage-if-us-mass-media-were-state-controlled-would-they-look-any-different

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh, and I couldn't agree with this comment in the smirking chimp blog entry/column I posted more, if you really want to know what the U.S. is up to, particularly overseas you simply can't rely on the U.S. media:

Try listening to anybody's news but ours. Visit Europe, for instance, and watch the news there. Sometimes it doesn't even sound like they're reporting about the same planet. Our media has stuck to their government-fed "talking points" since before the 2002 invasion of Afghanistan. Topics most of the population would like to see openly discussed (even, or perhaps especially if they're not sure where they stand) are utterly ignored because they're not on the list of "acceptable topics". If you're a public figure and dare bring one of the off-the-table topics up (example: financial transaction tax) you're immediately dubbed a "crackpot" and disappear from the mainstream media. This is government control of the media, whether the idiots on the front line like to call it that or not. If memory serves, the rule is "if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are, its a duck."

[puniraptor]

Thank god North West and Chris Brown are government approved talking points.

[steve dave]

you think barry smoked him dax?

[sonofdaxjones]

you think barry smoked him dax?

    

I just enjoy reading people trying to explain how there's no way that could happen. 

[steve dave]

you think barry smoked him dax?

    

I just enjoy reading people trying to explain how there's no way that could happen.

you think the remote controlled car takeover theory has any legs?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

you think barry smoked him dax?

    

I just enjoy reading people trying to explain how there's no way that could happen.

you think the remote controlled car takeover theory has any legs?

absolutely

[OK_Cat]

you ever see die hard?  of course it's possible

[sonofdaxjones]

you think barry smoked him dax?

    

I just enjoy reading people trying to explain how there's no way that could happen.

you think the remote controlled car takeover theory has any legs?

I don't know, clearly the modern vehicle with their own version of the proverbial "black box" and computer modules and software lends credence to the possibility of hacking, but remotely?   I suspect with the increasing availability of Blue Tooth, Satellite connectivity etc. etc. in cars that would provide a conduit via which remote take over could happen, but it still seems a bit far fetched.    I don't know

[Paul Moscow]

Ben, most Obama supporters actually believed things like FISA, indefinite detention, Patriot Act and things of that ilk would disappear once he became president.    The exact oppossite happend.

Most Obama supporters actually believed the "most transparent administration in history", the exact oppossite has happened.

and on and on and on.

Now, the most significant domestic spying case by the gov't in US history.

Right and that's mostly all true but I'm not sure how you can claim that progressives have not already noticed this. Hastings and other journos of his ilk, Taibbi, Greenwald, Scahill, etc, etc, have been all over the administration and have laid blame directly to Obama in many cases. But you're suggesting that there's evidence that there is a serious effort to ruin Hastings credibility in order to protect the fact that Obama killed him and that its the progressives who are behind it?

Maybe not in general (at least outside of this board), but their are noted left leaners in the MSM who sound like they're, well, relieved . . . and this has been yet another hallmark story which shows how far many of them are in the tank for this administration.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/jeff-cohen/50281/snowden-coverage-if-us-mass-media-were-state-controlled-would-they-look-any-different

I'm with that there are a lot of notable people who've gone against Greenwald but we've gone from progressives to "left-leaners". A big difference.

That article notes David Gregory whose conflict of interest has always been with conservatives (Bush threw him a party on his 30th birthday) and Andrew Ross Sorkin who, given his relationship with Wall Street, could never be a progressive.

I don't watch news programs but I'm sure there's a bunch of situations like this playing out, which is entirely frustrating and gives your point credence.

But from someone that spends time reading about the progressive perspective I don't agree with your premise that its coming from their point of view, or that they are in the tank for Obama.

[felix rex]

Quote me a notable progressive/left leaner who is "relieved".

[sonofdaxjones]

Quote me a notable progressive/left leaner who is "relieved".

The general demeanor.

Sorry Felix Rex, but at this juncture, your every post reminds me of this . . .



Don't know why . . . don't shoot me bro.

[OregonSmock]

"The general demeanor?"


 

[kim carnes]

the gov't killed this guy

[jmlynch1]

I want Gene Hackman's opinion

[Unruly]

Can someone please....

FIND JA RULE?!?!

I need to make sense of all this.

Guide me Ja.

[SkinnyBenny]

Sad.

Journalistic Freedoom!!!  . . . Unless their investigating and exposing the corruption and attack on civil liberties by a Progressive Liberal Presidency.

WTF are you talking about?  By the way, please look up the difference between "their" and "they're."  It would also help if you could actually spell the word "freedom."


 

When you become the grammar and spelling police on a message board, you've lost.

Dude, when you need to be corrected on the most elementary principles of usage (seriously, most people learn these in elementary school), you do serious damage to your credibility as a competent arguer. Trying to flip it around by calling him a "grammar nazi" and going like this  and assuming the position of an anti-intellectual who is too good to master basic traits of the language just makes you look really desperate. Sorry. It's suuuuuper easy. Take two seconds to learn it, then you'll be able to resume arguing and you might actually seem like a competent mind while doing it.


Also, who is Michael Hastings?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Also, who is Michael Hastings?

Just another dead body at the hands of the Obama administration

[sonofdaxjones]

Sad.

Journalistic Freedoom!!!  . . . Unless their investigating and exposing the corruption and attack on civil liberties by a Progressive Liberal Presidency.

WTF are you talking about?  By the way, please look up the difference between "their" and "they're."  It would also help if you could actually spell the word "freedom."


 

When you become the grammar and spelling police on a message board, you've lost.

Dude, when you need to be corrected on the most elementary principles of usage (seriously, most people learn these in elementary school), you do serious damage to your credibility as a competent arguer. Trying to flip it around by calling him a "grammar nazi" and going like this  and assuming the position of an anti-intellectual who is too good to master basic traits of the language just makes you look really desperate. Sorry. It's suuuuuper easy. Take two seconds to learn it, then you'll be able to resume arguing and you might actually seem like a competent mind while doing it.


Also, who is Michael Hastings?

Go back to worrying yourself sick over two different colors of turf. 

"anti-intellectual" WTF??  LOL

(a variation of) Godwin's Law in 1 post, great work Skinny!!

[felix rex]

Quote me a notable progressive/left leaner who is "relieved".

The general demeanor.

Sorry Felix Rex, but at this juncture, your every post reminds me of this . . .



Don't know why . . . don't shoot me bro.

Link?