Kansas City things

[420seriouscat69]

Yes, Phil, that was unkind of me.

[Phil Titola]

Yes, Phil, that was unkind of me.

 

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Greater KC's spread over too far of a geographic area and has too many governments for anything to work well.  It's too late to build meaningful public transportation.  Focus on building a time machine instead.

[Phil Titola]

Greater KC's spread over too far of a geographic area and has too many governments for anything to work well.  It's too late to build meaningful public transportation.  Focus on building a time machine instead.

Goal will be as big as the region wants to buy into.  Right now the focus is on the area where their is density and the ability for those less dense areas to connect into with commuter rail as they desire.  That will begin the process of getting density back to the metro where transit can be meaningful again like it was in the 1950s....

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Focus on the time machine.

[pissclams]

Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

[kim carnes]

Phil, the urban real estate development in kc is a joke and it will be probably forever (especially during the meaningful part of your lifetime).

[Phil Titola]

Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

streetcar isn't the only answer obviously Mr. drive or die.

[Phil Titola]

Phil, the urban real estate development in kc is a joke and it will be probably forever (especially during the meaningful part of your lifetime).

I'm not in the real estate dev biz.

[pissclams]

Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

streetcar isn't the only answer obviously Mr. drive or die.

it's not even a legitimate answer and the fact that you can't realize that speaks volumes as to how far up city hall's ass your head is

[Belvis Noland]

Phil, the urban real estate development in kc is a joke and it will be probably forever (especially during the meaningful part of your lifetime).

Serious question - do you have stats to back that up?  I mean, compared to other mid-tier metros (STL, charlotte, Louisville, Portland. Nashville, etc) how do we compare?  Seems like downtown urban core is building a crap ton of multi-tenant developments right now.

http://www.downtownkc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/DowntownKC-Streetcar-Development-map-Print.pdf

According to this, there are about 22 residential developments (865mil) currently underway downtown. Maybe hayseed, but seems pretty decent.

[Phil Titola]

Me too bud but I also understand not everybody can or will do that...hence the streetcar and bike share are great alternatives.

so disingenuous. if you gave a crap about people who can't afford their own transportation you wouldn't be Captain Streetcar KC.

streetcar isn't the only answer obviously Mr. drive or die.

it's not even a legitimate answer and the fact that you can't realize that speaks volumes as to how far up city hall's ass your head is

I've not once claimed it's the answer for mass transit in KC.  Let's not confuse gE'ing with WC about his "they should just walk" comment as serious policy statements.

[420seriouscat69]

Oh, I still think a SC "success" only covering 2 miles is laughable. I was just making a few examples. If you're driving up from Olathe to jump on that thing, then you're the joke. Explore downtown a bit. Leave the kids at crown center, take your lush ass up to the river market for a drink and Fresh veggies, come back and drive them home. This is not a game changer no matter what right now.

[pissclams]

the streetcar is whatever the car's supporters tell you it is.  get on board or get out of the way, kc politics style in the '17.  i'm already crying jordan tears thinking about sly being term limited.

[420seriouscat69]

Also, if you wanna play the tourist card, it's even more laughable. River market and downtown has a bit of a charm, but Crown Center is for kids. Just doesn't equate.

[Phil Titola]

Oh, I still think a SC "success" only covering 2 miles is laughable. I was just making a few examples. If you're driving up from Olathe to jump on that thing, then you're the joke. Explore downtown a bit. Leave the kids at crown center, take your lush ass up to the river market for a drink and Fresh veggies, come back and drive them home. This is not a game changer no matter what right now.

I've stated the streetcar in it's current form is not a success to KC if this is all it ever is.  There is a reason it was labeled a starter line.  I think it's had a great year, has spurred development, and has been a "downtown" gamechanger at the level of the Sprint Center....but it won't be a success as is in my opinion.

In your research with transit system, what would you point to as a successful system we can strive to be?

[Phil Titola]

Also, if you wanna play the tourist card, it's even more laughable. River market and downtown has a bit of a charm, but Crown Center is for kids. Just doesn't equate.

You are all over the place bud...not even sure the point you are trying to make or to whom.

[420seriouscat69]

Brother in law gave me the speech last year that the SC wasn't for us, but for the tourist. I guess that was my last point.

[star seed 7]

Also, if you wanna play the tourist card, it's even more laughable. River market and downtown has a bit of a charm, but Crown Center is for kids. Just doesn't equate.

[420seriouscat69]

River market to Crown Center is not our main points in this city. How is that so hard to grasp?

[Phil Titola]

River market to Crown Center is not our main points in this city. How is that so hard to grasp?

What is? 

[420seriouscat69]

Not downtown. It just barely got a breath in 2005. "City of fountains", which I grew up with resides around the plaza. Downtown was for the Costinoes and defenbaugh to get rid of dead bodies before

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Now you people's politicians are rough ridin' w/my stuff.  Sly James and Barnes w/supporting roles here: http://q13fox.com/2017/05/07/commentary-my-pitch-for-the-keyarena-location-if-i-worked-for-the-port-of-seattle/

During my research tonight, I see that not only did Sly blindly sign off on a letter with the exact same words that OVG wrote for the ex-mayor, he signed off on a letter recommending the competing bid too.

[mocat]

Not downtown. It just barely got a breath in 2005. "City of fountains", which I grew up with resides around the plaza. Downtown was for the Costinoes and defenbaugh to get rid of dead bodies before

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[Cartierfor3]

Oh, I still think a SC "success" only covering 2 miles is laughable. I was just making a few examples. If you're driving up from Olathe to jump on that thing, then you're the joke. Explore downtown a bit. Leave the kids at crown center, take your lush ass up to the river market for a drink and Fresh veggies, come back and drive them home. This is not a game changer no matter what right now.

this is not a good idea