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« Reply #4125 on: February 24, 2016, 10:12:26 AM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

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« Reply #4126 on: February 24, 2016, 10:14:09 AM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

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« Reply #4127 on: February 24, 2016, 10:46:50 AM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

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« Reply #4128 on: February 24, 2016, 11:30:11 AM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
at least city council member canady mandated that a percentage of JE Dunn's workers on the cerner bannister project are locally based. i was surprised that they chose that area to build and i am interested to see how it impacts that part of the city.


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« Reply #4129 on: February 24, 2016, 12:06:45 PM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
at least city council member canady mandated that a percentage of JE Dunn's workers on the cerner bannister project are locally based. i was surprised that they chose that area to build and i am interested to see how it impacts that part of the city.

pretty disappointed they didn't choose downtown, but I am invested in downtown, and I hate urban sprawl/campus construction projects.
Do we know what the timeline on this project is?

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« Reply #4130 on: February 24, 2016, 12:11:04 PM »
I bid some crap on building 9, but came in second  :curse:
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« Reply #4131 on: February 24, 2016, 12:11:49 PM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Incentives are a zero sum game, but due to state line, aren't going away anytime soon.  KCMO is terrified of losing jobs to KS and vice versa.  Sporting KC and Cerner just dumped thousands of jobs and Sporting Park over in WyCo due to huge incentives.  When Bannister was back on the table, KCMO wasn't about to lose the jobs again.   

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« Reply #4132 on: February 24, 2016, 12:32:34 PM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.

We need a strategy backed by civic goals and that drives incentives.... Instead of what appears to be willy nilly at this point.

agreed. building a sprawling campus on Bannister that is not accessible by transit should not be backed with incentives.

Incentives are a zero sum game, but due to state line, aren't going away anytime soon.  KCMO is terrified of losing jobs to KS and vice versa.  Sporting KC and Cerner just dumped thousands of jobs and Sporting Park over in WyCo due to huge incentives.  When Bannister was back on the table, KCMO wasn't about to lose the jobs again.   

Oh I understand that. and get why they did it. just can be annoying when we have great downtown resurgence and the largest company in the metro give them the big middle finger. Sprint did the same thing when they built the campus in OP. if we would stop building campus's and build downtown we'd have at least 3 more highrise buildings (sprint, cerner, garmin) Cerner would probably need like 4 buildings.

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« Reply #4133 on: February 24, 2016, 12:46:28 PM »
A downtown Garmin does not work.

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Re: Kansas City things
« Reply #4134 on: February 24, 2016, 12:47:03 PM »
Is Garmin still a thing?

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« Reply #4135 on: February 24, 2016, 12:48:51 PM »
Ya man, doing really well actually.  I figured them dead after the nuvi sales dried up but they are kicking ass in the fitness and some other markets.

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« Reply #4136 on: February 24, 2016, 12:49:39 PM »
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

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« Reply #4137 on: February 24, 2016, 12:53:18 PM »
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

Nope. 

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« Reply #4138 on: February 24, 2016, 12:55:18 PM »
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

Nope.

oh ok. guess they must be pretty special then.

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« Reply #4139 on: February 24, 2016, 12:59:51 PM »
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

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« Reply #4140 on: February 24, 2016, 01:00:54 PM »
A downtown Garmin does not work.

maybe not their production facility, but they could certainly office downtown...

Nope.

oh ok. guess they must be pretty special then.

Agreed.   :cheers:

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« Reply #4141 on: February 24, 2016, 01:03:18 PM »
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

pretty sure that was their first building. I have no idea who actually works there.

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« Reply #4142 on: February 24, 2016, 01:05:03 PM »
Good to know. I've always seen it and thought it should be in a more visible location in the city, but I guess that's why they have the new location as well.

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« Reply #4143 on: February 24, 2016, 01:08:01 PM »
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

pretty sure that was their first building. I have no idea who actually works there.

It's like tech support / customer service type folks.  Maybe not all but some.

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« Reply #4144 on: February 24, 2016, 01:16:08 PM »
Who works at the Cerner in SE KC? I always drive by it and feel like it's a weird place for such a huge corporation. Is that location their first one?

pretty sure that was their first building. I have no idea who actually works there.

I think NKC campus is their first buildings. They took over that SKC location from the old Kauffman drug company.... And was one reason they built/ecpanded at Bannister.

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« Reply #4145 on: February 24, 2016, 01:40:30 PM »
totally changing subjects I am for real kind of pissed about the incentives that KC keeps giving Cerner, even when they do things that are clearly not good for the city. very frustrating.
at least city council member canady mandated that a percentage of JE Dunn's workers on the cerner bannister project are locally based. i was surprised that they chose that area to build and i am interested to see how it impacts that part of the city.

pretty disappointed they didn't choose downtown, but I am invested in downtown, and I hate urban sprawl/campus construction projects.
Do we know what the timeline on this project is?

Pretty sure the Cerner/SKC owners owned all that land around Bannister since that was where SKC's stadium was originally going to go. Since it wasn't going to be used for Sporting, it made sense that they would use it for Cerner instead of just sitting fallow.

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« Reply #4146 on: February 24, 2016, 01:50:45 PM »
cerner downtown would have been increds and should have happened
sprint's op campus came about long before downtown's resurgence, the planning for it started in the very early 90's


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« Reply #4147 on: February 24, 2016, 01:51:54 PM »
Is downtown even big enough for that to happen. 

The boom surrounding that would be absolutely huge.

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« Reply #4148 on: February 24, 2016, 01:52:47 PM »
ya it is


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« Reply #4149 on: February 24, 2016, 01:56:26 PM »
I mean, Lib just said something about bidding some work in "building 9".  That quantity of space in downtown proper..... 

That would be the biggest downtown construction project in KC's history.