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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4050 on: July 25, 2019, 08:56:24 PM »
Nothing to worry about, burn baby burn.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4051 on: July 25, 2019, 09:22:23 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)


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« Reply #4052 on: July 25, 2019, 09:26:37 PM »
For those keeping record at home, developing nations now account for 64% of all carbon emissions and have increased their carbon emissions by 4.5 billion metric tons (U.S. decreased by 530 million metric tons over same period) over the last decade (developing nations also account for the vast majority of plastic found in the oceans).

But, lets kill our economy so they can continue polluting.

China and India are building 100's of new coal fired energy plants.  China plans on building in 1100GW's of additional power from coal into their grid over the next 10 years.






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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4053 on: July 25, 2019, 09:30:41 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4054 on: July 25, 2019, 09:31:14 PM »
For those keeping record at home, developing nations now account for 64% of all carbon emissions and have increased their carbon emissions by 4.5 billion metric tons (U.S. decreased by 530 million metric tons over same period) over the last decade (developing nations also account for the vast majority of plastic found in the oceans).

But, lets kill our economy so they can continue polluting.

China and India are building 100's of new coal fired energy plants.

I would burn you but I’m trying to go green.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4055 on: July 25, 2019, 09:32:02 PM »
Since when has being innovative ever killed an economy?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4056 on: July 25, 2019, 09:32:44 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4057 on: July 25, 2019, 09:36:02 PM »
Since when has being innovative ever killed an economy?

Green "innovation" accounts for 6% of the U.S. total energy consumption . . . this has nothing to do with innovation.   We are going up against economies and governments who talk a good game and do the exact opposite, the Paris Accord is utterly worthless.

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« Reply #4058 on: July 25, 2019, 09:37:31 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.

Wait until the end:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIHxOui9nQ[/youtube]

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4059 on: July 25, 2019, 09:40:17 PM »
Everyone in daxderp nation knows that all weather data is made up or inaccurate. Also climate change is a hoax by the Chinese to bankrupt the country.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4060 on: July 25, 2019, 09:41:15 PM »
Since when has being innovative ever killed an economy?

Green "innovation" accounts for 6% of the U.S. total energy consumption . . . this has nothing to do with innovation.   We are going up against economies and governments who talk a good game and do the exact opposite, the Paris Accord is utterly worthless.

It has everything to do with innovation.

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« Reply #4061 on: July 25, 2019, 09:44:05 PM »
Since when has being innovative ever killed an economy?

Green "innovation" accounts for 6% of the U.S. total energy consumption . . . this has nothing to do with innovation.   We are going up against economies and governments who talk a good game and do the exact opposite, the Paris Accord is utterly worthless.


It has everything to do with innovation.

If you think you're going to come anywhere close to driving the power needs of the economy using green "innovation" then you're insane, we're literally decades away from "zero emission" energy being anywhere close to meeting the power needs of the U.S. economy, there's still a 94% gap to make up.   LibDerp Leadership will have already sent the economy into the shitter if they get their way.


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4062 on: July 25, 2019, 09:45:47 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.

Wait until the end:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIHxOui9nQ[/youtube]

Gotta keep going in and cooling the past to make the present look warmer in comparison.


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« Reply #4063 on: July 25, 2019, 09:54:37 PM »
Since when has being innovative ever killed an economy?

Green "innovation" accounts for 6% of the U.S. total energy consumption . . . this has nothing to do with innovation.   We are going up against economies and governments who talk a good game and do the exact opposite, the Paris Accord is utterly worthless.


It has everything to do with innovation.

If you think you're going to come anywhere close to driving the power needs of the economy using green "innovation" then you're insane, we're literally decades away from "zero emission" energy being anywhere close to meeting the power needs of the U.S. economy, there's still a 94% gap to make up.   LibDerp Leadership will have already sent the economy into the shitter if they get their way.

I'm curious to know what your actual argument is here. I can only assume it's that we need to do the cheap and easy thing by burning more fossil fuels like India and China otherwise our economy will crater, because that's what you said. But I'm not interested if it's only "The Paris Accord sucks!"

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4064 on: July 25, 2019, 09:55:19 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.

Wait until the end:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIHxOui9nQ[/youtube]

Gotta keep going in and cooling the past to make the present look warmer in comparison.

wut?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4065 on: July 25, 2019, 10:00:24 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.

Wait until the end:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIHxOui9nQ[/youtube]

Gotta keep going in and cooling the past to make the present look warmer in comparison.

wut?

GHCN (Global Historical Climatology Network) once a system of 7000 weather stations across the globe,now a system of 1000 of which nearly 50% are located on the grounds of airports in urban centers.  Most rural stations not impacted by urban sprawl and the UHI (Urban Heat Island) no longer exist.

Then NOAA (and similar) go in and start playing around with the data.   Former NOAA scientists who were concerned about things like UHI are now all retired and their concerns shoved aside etc. etc. etc.






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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4066 on: July 25, 2019, 10:10:40 PM »
Since when has being innovative ever killed an economy?

Green "innovation" accounts for 6% of the U.S. total energy consumption . . . this has nothing to do with innovation.   We are going up against economies and governments who talk a good game and do the exact opposite, the Paris Accord is utterly worthless.


It has everything to do with innovation.

If you think you're going to come anywhere close to driving the power needs of the economy using green "innovation" then you're insane, we're literally decades away from "zero emission" energy being anywhere close to meeting the power needs of the U.S. economy, there's still a 94% gap to make up.   LibDerp Leadership will have already sent the economy into the shitter if they get their way.

I'm curious to know what your actual argument is here. I can only assume it's that we need to do the cheap and easy thing by burning more fossil fuels like India and China otherwise our economy will crater, because that's what you said. But I'm not interested if it's only "The Paris Accord sucks!"

Look at the desires of individuals in your own party.   If they get their way, they'll crater the whole deal long before renewable will come close to maintaining the economic engine that exists today.   

Let's look at another thing, auto emissions.   You've got states like California passing all kinds of draconian green laws while lower classes have to fight their way through shittyy mass transit systems that have seen ridership drop 25% in the last decade because the systems suck so bad.   Thus more cars than ever are on the roads in California. 

Yet, rather than concentrate on urban mass transit Moon Beam spent billions on the train to no where.




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The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4068 on: July 29, 2019, 09:40:31 AM »
One paper denying climate change against hundreds of others. Case closed guys it’s all fake.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4069 on: July 29, 2019, 10:46:30 AM »
One paper denying climate change against hundreds of others. Case closed guys it’s all fake.

LOL and your low IQ use of "denying", just another day with The Big Dummy.


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4070 on: July 29, 2019, 11:00:56 AM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.

Wait until the end:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIHxOui9nQ[/youtube]

Gotta keep going in and cooling the past to make the present look warmer in comparison.

wut?

GHCN (Global Historical Climatology Network) once a system of 7000 weather stations across the globe,now a system of 1000 of which nearly 50% are located on the grounds of airports in urban centers.  Most rural stations not impacted by urban sprawl and the UHI (Urban Heat Island) no longer exist.

Then NOAA (and similar) go in and start playing around with the data.   Former NOAA scientists who were concerned about things like UHI are now all retired and their concerns shoved aside etc. etc. etc.

just urban heat islands and screwy data

Nothing to see here...

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4071 on: July 30, 2019, 03:27:30 PM »
Weather ='s Climate (The Big Dummy)

Setting new highs year over year all over the world is not just random weather you dumbass.

LOL, France set a new high the other day at 1 weather station and they treated it like it was country wide.  A weather station 30 feet from a black top highway.

Wait until the end:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIHxOui9nQ[/youtube]

Gotta keep going in and cooling the past to make the present look warmer in comparison.

wut?

GHCN (Global Historical Climatology Network) once a system of 7000 weather stations across the globe,now a system of 1000 of which nearly 50% are located on the grounds of airports in urban centers.  Most rural stations not impacted by urban sprawl and the UHI (Urban Heat Island) no longer exist.

Then NOAA (and similar) go in and start playing around with the data.   Former NOAA scientists who were concerned about things like UHI are now all retired and their concerns shoved aside etc. etc. etc.

just urban heat islands and screwy data

Nothing to see here...

It's all data, dummy

Meanwhile, since once again weather is climate . . .

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/07/30/minnesota-weather-temperatures-dip-to-37-degrees-in-international-falls-breaking-121-year-record/

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4072 on: July 30, 2019, 03:36:19 PM »
The U.S. Climate Reference Network https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/land-based-station-data/land-based-datasets/us-climate-reference-network-uscrn  (which NOAA doesn't use in their official reports anymore because they got mad at the GAO)

Says that 6 of the last 9 months in the United States have been below normal temp (since once again weather equals climate due to Europe having nearly the exact same heat wave that they had in 1947)


201810   -0.18°F
201811   -2.56°F
201812   2.39°F
201901   0.63°F
201902   -3.15°F
201903   -2.81°F
201904   1.55°F
201905   -1.13°F
201906   -0.14°F



   





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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #4074 on: July 30, 2019, 03:55:31 PM »