The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[sys]

realized i may not have placed enough dots for people to connect.  after four years of drought the sierra nevadas look like this.  because of the hotness and the dryness.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

That looks like pine beetle - not drought.

[sys]

That looks like pine beetle - not drought.

pine beetles kill when trees don't have enough water to fight them off.

[sonofdaxjones]

realized i may not have placed enough dots for people to connect.  after four years of drought the sierra nevadas look like this.  because of the hotness and the dryness.

Yet climatologists grudgingly attributed the Western drought to weather patterns found regularly relative to Earths history for that part of the world.  As of now only a small portion of the Sierra Nevada range is classified as abnormally dry or D0 on a 0-4 scale.

Droughts in that part of the world have lasted decades in the past. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

That looks like pine beetle - not drought.

pine beetles kill when trees don't have enough water to fight them off.

Not to quibble with you because of course drought stress can contribute to all sorts of diseases and infestations, but pine beetles have little difficulty infesting healthy trees, too. I'm simply pointing out that your picture is pine beetle damage - not necessarily drought.

[sys]

Not to quibble with you because of course drought stress can contribute to all sorts of diseases and infestations, but pine beetles have little difficulty infesting healthy trees, too. I'm simply pointing out that your picture is pine beetle damage - not necessarily drought.

the difference is the dying, not the being infested.

[cfbandyman]

CAM may be the biggest gurgling simpleton on this board.  Given the competition, that's pretty amazing.

Avoid, deflect and obfuscate... classic Dax.

LOL 

 

Lol, I took you're last idiotic post point by point. 

You showed the "depth" of your "intellect" with your "at least it's a start" comment the ended with gurgling gibberish.

A non binding, unenforceable agreement is your definition of a "start".   Half of the nations that signed on to the last "binding" climate agreement have already pulled out and the United States never signed on to begin with. 

So, please parrot out something that was covered 100 pages ago.

 

You say I'm a gurgling simpleton when you are the one who blindly and loyally supports Drumpf, the true epitome of a gurgling simpleton.

Also, your "point by point" takedown, like most of the trash you spew out, is so incredibly and blatantly ill-informed and off base it is not worth my time (or others) responding or refuting it.

The darkness of your cynicism and your ready willingness to support fascists and plutocrats is frankly alarming and you should probably retreat to your bunker so as to avoid as much interaction and impact in larger society as possible.

Dude, your last post was nothing but glowing praise for the kleptocrats and the crony capitalist oligarchs.   Regulation plays straight into the hands of huge corporations who are politically connected. 

You're clearly in love with a former Pres who ran the biggest domestic spying campaign in US history.  One that has the former East German Stasi apparatchiks looking on in awe.  A guy who willfully and unilaterally signed the US on to an agreement that required the Russians and Chinese to ostensibly do nothing and unlike the United States they've paid nothing and will never pay anything into the fund.   A non legally binding agreement that literally means nothing.   An agreement that if unilaterally enforced would most certainly have those kleptocrats you love moving even more of their  manufacturing offshore to non compliant countries.

You're an idiot.

How you always bring this around on something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand is pretty amaze.

[sonofdaxjones]

CAM may be the biggest gurgling simpleton on this board.  Given the competition, that's pretty amazing.

Avoid, deflect and obfuscate... classic Dax.

LOL 

 

Lol, I took you're last idiotic post point by point. 

You showed the "depth" of your "intellect" with your "at least it's a start" comment the ended with gurgling gibberish.

A non binding, unenforceable agreement is your definition of a "start".   Half of the nations that signed on to the last "binding" climate agreement have already pulled out and the United States never signed on to begin with. 

So, please parrot out something that was covered 100 pages ago.

 

You say I'm a gurgling simpleton when you are the one who blindly and loyally supports Drumpf, the true epitome of a gurgling simpleton.

Also, your "point by point" takedown, like most of the trash you spew out, is so incredibly and blatantly ill-informed and off base it is not worth my time (or others) responding or refuting it.

The darkness of your cynicism and your ready willingness to support fascists and plutocrats is frankly alarming and you should probably retreat to your bunker so as to avoid as much interaction and impact in larger society as possible.

Dude, your last post was nothing but glowing praise for the kleptocrats and the crony capitalist oligarchs.   Regulation plays straight into the hands of huge corporations who are politically connected. 

You're clearly in love with a former Pres who ran the biggest domestic spying campaign in US history.  One that has the former East German Stasi apparatchiks looking on in awe.  A guy who willfully and unilaterally signed the US on to an agreement that required the Russians and Chinese to ostensibly do nothing and unlike the United States they've paid nothing and will never pay anything into the fund.   A non legally binding agreement that literally means nothing.   An agreement that if unilaterally enforced would most certainly have those kleptocrats you love moving even more of their  manufacturing offshore to non compliant countries.

You're an idiot.

How you always bring this around on something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand is pretty amaze.

That's a tapout if there ever was one.  Now tell us again about Elon Musk and his "outrage".    Apple is going spend another $500 million this year on facilities in China, hopefully with fewer worker suicides, pollution face masks can be accessorized as well.

[star seed 7]

The daxbot input decoder seems to be broken

[sonofdaxjones]

The daxbot input decoder seems to be broken

Lol. CAM and lib, a "dynamic" duo. 

Sad.

[star seed 7]

Maybe this is a demo of the cheaper pull string daxbot, every pull spits out a post about a random topic

[star seed 7]

I hope liberal colleges or benghazi is next. Play the hits dax!

[Emo EMAW]

sys has that forest been allowed to live naturally since human contact?

[cfbandyman]

The daxbot input decoder seems to be broken

Nah, he's just so predictable he's becoming reliable to set my watch by it. Also, still lolers at his response.

[SdK]

It's hot as eff outside. Manhattan warming in full force.

[sonofdaxjones]

Weird takes guys.  Not a lot of there, there. 

[sys]

sys has that forest been allowed to live naturally since human contact?

density is definitely a contributing factor.  more trees trying to get at the same water means less water per tree.

[SdK]

Speaking to the European side of these things. My French friend just turned on her one window unit for her apartment today at 4pm for the first time.

[SdK]

She lives in a second story apt as well. I told her I'd be sweating my balls off already and probably would have died.

[SdK]

Probably 900 sq ft

[EMAWican]

I'll just keep saying this in this thread, but maybe these scientists should work on settling the science in accurately predicting the weather 12 hours from now.

[star seed 7]

Zing!

[Emo EMAW]

sys has that forest been allowed to live naturally since human contact?

density is definitely a contributing factor.  more trees trying to get at the same water means less water per tree.

Have you read much on cheat grass?

[puniraptor]

I'll just keep saying this in this thread, but maybe these scientists should work on settling the science in accurately predicting the weather 12 hours from now.

I still wouldn't listen. I make all my decisions based on yesterday's weather.

[sys]

Have you read much on cheat grass?

i'm familiar with it.