The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[Panjandrum]

I'm not going to justify all of the things I do. There's more.

Of course, you're too goddamn obtuse to have a discussion with, so there's little point.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I'm not going to justify all of the things I do. There's more.

Of course, you're too goddamn obtuse to have a discussion with, so there's little point.

I didn't ask you to justify anything. You're the one who brought these things up as if you're Mother effing Teresa. Owning a high efficiency AC and appliances is your contribution?! Do you realize (you don't) that if everyone on earth owned such things CO2 emissions would skyrocket? The only thing you're "contributing" is far more carbon than the average human being. That, and huge gobs of hypocrisy.

You are melting down over the US withdrawing from a non-binding agreement you have not even read while enjoying your carbon spewing AC, fridge, and internet most of the world will never experience.

The best part of your ignorant, whiny, sniveling, delusional, hypocritical, and pretentious rant is that, just like all the liberals in meltdown, you have no recognition of how ignorant, whiny, sniveling, delusional, hypocritical, and pretentious you are. It is hilarious!

[AbeFroman]

Fsd and ksuw are just miserable pieces of crap that contribute nothing to this world. When other people do proactive conscious things they laugh and mock because they want people to be as miserable as them. It's pretty simple. Luckily their kind is a dying breed. The younger generations contain less of their types.

[Gooch]

That was the first multi paragraph Pan post that I have ever read and now I wish I had read more of his novels in the past. 

[Emo EMAW]

Panj you would do much more good by killing yourself.

[Gooch]

I'm not going to justify all of the things I do. There's more.

Of course, you're too goddamn obtuse to have a discussion with, so there's little point.

I didn't ask you to justify anything. You're the one who brought these things up as if you're Mother effing Teresa. Owning a high efficiency AC and appliances is your contribution?! Do you realize (you don't) that if everyone on earth owned such things CO2 emissions would skyrocket? The only thing you're "contributing" is far more carbon than the average human being. That, and huge gobs of hypocrisy.

You are melting down over the US withdrawing from a non-binding agreement you have not even read while enjoying your carbon spewing AC, fridge, and internet most of the world will never experience.

The best part of your ignorant, whiny, sniveling, delusional, hypocritical, and pretentious rant is that, just like all the liberals in meltdown, you have no recognition of how ignorant, whiny, sniveling, delusional, hypocritical, and pretentious you are. It is hilarious!

You are one shitty little person.

[Tobias]

i bet panj didn't even walk that post to the internet office.  probably used a computer or something

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think we should just build more nuclear plants so we wouldn't need to buy high efficiency appliances.

[Emo EMAW]

Here's the thing:  we have created and live in a consumer driven economy.  We value consumption.  And (probably) this consumption is bad for Mother Earth.  Europe has really put a damper on consumption via taxes and regulation.  People have small homes and old small shitty cars because they don't get to keep much of their wages (taxes) and then everything else is expensive so their money doesn't go as far as here.  This way of living flies in the face of our culture, our dreams, our beliefs.  That's just how it is, right wrong better or worse. 

One thing I'd like to really understand is if we are any happier than them.  I don't think anyone can make an argument that we absolutely are.  It's either no or too gray to measure. 

Anyway, none of us has any room to puff our chests unless you're literally burning any income that is in excess of your bare minimum to live comfortably.  You make money, you spend it, and that is consumption, EnergyStar or not. 

[star seed 7]

Ksuw seems like the type of person that keeps the thermostat at 82 during the summer and his family hates him for it

[chum1]

KSUW and his wife scream at each other nightly over their overdrawn bank account while kids cry in the background.

[chum1]

FSD falls asleep every night in an old, dirty recliner in front of the TV while drinking a 12 pack of Milwaukee's Best.

[bucket]

Here's the thing:  we have created and live in a consumer driven economy.  We value consumption.  And (probably) this consumption is bad for Mother Earth.  Europe has really put a damper on consumption via taxes and regulation.  People have small homes and old small shitty cars because they don't get to keep much of their wages (taxes) and then everything else is expensive so their money doesn't go as far as here.  This way of living flies in the face of our culture, our dreams, our beliefs.  That's just how it is, right wrong better or worse. 

One thing I'd like to really understand is if we are any happier than them.  I don't think anyone can make an argument that we absolutely are.  It's either no or too gray to measure. 

Anyway, none of us has any room to puff our chests unless you're literally burning any income that is in excess of your bare minimum to live comfortably.  You make money, you spend it, and that is consumption, EnergyStar or not.

I don't think this is right.

[Emo EMAW]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Just from the last couple pages....

Everything you said is stupid.  Shut up.

ksu and his merry band of dumbasses are worth responding to anymore

Of course, you're too goddamn obtuse to have a discussion with, so there's little point.

Fsd and ksuw are just miserable pieces of crap that contribute nothing to this world. When other people do proactive conscious things they laugh and mock because they want people to be as miserable as them. It's pretty simple. Luckily their kind is a dying breed. The younger generations contain less of their types.

You are one shitty little person.

KSUW and his wife scream at each other nightly over their overdrawn bank account while kids cry in the background.

Liberals are so mentally flaccid, their arguments so bankrupt, their hypocrisy so naked, that all they can muster is name calling in response. Sad.

[chum1]

Just from the last couple pages....

Everything you said is stupid.  Shut up.

ksu and his merry band of dumbasses are worth responding to anymore

Of course, you're too goddamn obtuse to have a discussion with, so there's little point.

Fsd and ksuw are just miserable pieces of crap that contribute nothing to this world. When other people do proactive conscious things they laugh and mock because they want people to be as miserable as them. It's pretty simple. Luckily their kind is a dying breed. The younger generations contain less of their types.

You are one shitty little person.

KSUW and his wife scream at each other nightly over their overdrawn bank account while kids cry in the background.

Liberals are so mentally flaccid, their arguments so bankrupt, their hypocrisy so naked, that all they can muster is name calling in response. Sad.

Missed one:

Ksuw seems like the type of person that keeps the thermostat at 82 during the summer and his family hates him for it

[bucket]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

I'm sorry that you don't understand why the price of living in Europe is higher than Kansas.

[SdK]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

I will say that I always feel warm or hot when I am at my French friend's apartment and in her car. I asked her what the deal was, she said they didn't have AC growing up.

I am definitely made softer by growing up with A.C.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Missed one:

Ksuw seems like the type of person that keeps the thermostat at 82 during the summer and his family hates him for it

Nah, I don't take Lib7 seriously because he's usually just trying to make a joke and it's usually pretty funny.

(Oh and i keep the thermostat at 70 during the summer because that's what my wife prefers, though I'd be more around 72 personally. And we definitely didn't waste money on a high efficiency AC because the break even point was something like 12 years).

[Emo EMAW]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

I'm sorry that you don't understand why the price of living in Europe is higher than Kansas.

Feel free to 'splain it for me.  Anyway I'm less focused on the why, what's important is the what.  We consume more than them, and it is ingrained in our culture.

[Kat Kid]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

I'm sorry that you don't understand why the price of living in Europe is higher than Kansas.

Feel free to 'splain it for me.  Anyway I'm less focused on the why, what's important is the what.  We consume more than them, and it is ingrained in our culture.

Well, for one, tons more people would rather live in Europe than in Kansas.


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[star seed 7]

A few thousand years of culture might be a cause of living smaller too, but it's probably just taxes

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

I'm sorry that you don't understand why the price of living in Europe is higher than Kansas.

Feel free to 'splain it for me.  Anyway I'm less focused on the why, what's important is the what.  We consume more than them, and it is ingrained in our culture.

Well, for one, tons more people would rather live in Europe than in Kansas.

That is a foolish comparison. People would no doubt prefer to live like a rich person in Europe, like what they experience on vacation. So would I. The clifftop villa I stayed at in Ravello was gorgeous. That's not how ordinary Europeans live. They live in cramped apartments and take the train, bike or scooter unless they're affluent enough to own a shitbox car.

I can tell you of all the allied officers my family hosts, every single one of them is thrilled to be visiting Leavenworth, Kansas for a year and every one of them tries to extend their stay to a second year if their military will allow it. These people hail from all the enlightened European cities like Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam, Rome. They love Kansas. First thing they do is buy a big old minivan for the family if they have kids (most do). They marvel at things like mowing the yard and owning a "massive" 4-bedroom home. They all buy smokers and ship them home when they leave. It's actually pretty cute.

[Emo EMAW]

Sorry you've never travelled to or lived in Europe or worked extensively with Europeans bucket.  :(

I'm sorry that you don't understand why the price of living in Europe is higher than Kansas.

Feel free to 'splain it for me.  Anyway I'm less focused on the why, what's important is the what.  We consume more than them, and it is ingrained in our culture.

Well, for one, tons more people would rather live in Europe than in Kansas.


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That's fine.  But nowhere did I mention Kansas.  This is a US vs Western Europe comparo. 

[chum1]

Supply and demand? Ha! That's preposterous!