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[sonofdaxjones]

goEMAW Liberals: "I'm so mad I could just spit.  Well, well you know, this has been going on for a long, long time (no crap!, Hey, who created via executive order the National Security Agency anyway?).   Bush did it to"!!

     

[felix rex]

I'm not sure where to go with that.

[Kat Kid]

goEMAW Liberals: "I'm so mad I could just spit.  Well, well you know, this has been going on for a long, long time (no crap!, Hey, who created via executive order the National Security Agency anyway?).   Bush did it to"!!

 

Its @Kat Kid

[Kat Kid]

Oops!  I guess you weren't talking to me and just used "goEMAW Liberals" because it was a better name for your strawman because no one actually made an argument that fits in to your only "unless a democrat is president" mantra. 

[sonofdaxjones]

It's okay resident Liberal's . . . Harry Truman created the NSA, and LBJ (whose entire political career was tied to the parent company of Halliburton) ordered the CIA to set up a domestic spy network to root out foreign influence on the Anti-War movement.    So the creation of the entities to execute these orders, and the actual execution of executive branch orders to spy on American's (using other entities besides the FBI) has a long and storied history within Democratic presidencies.   Obama is just continuing the legacy.   

Cue:  But lessor of two evils Dax!! 

KK no need to go completely humorless in the face of the final death nil of Hope and Change. 

[Kat Kid]

It's okay resident Liberal's . . . Harry Truman created the NSA, and LBJ (whose entire political career was tied to the parent company of Halliburton) ordered the CIA to set up a domestic spy network to root out foreign influence on the Anti-War movement.    So the creation of the entities to execute these orders, and the actual execution of executive branch orders to spy on American's (using other entities besides the FBI) has a long and storied history within Democratic presidencies.   Obama is just continuing the legacy.   

Cue:  But lessor of two evils Dax!! 

KK no need to go completely humorless in the face of the final death nil of Hope and Change.

Dax, see if you can track down where a bunch of liberals were defending obama, let alone Truman and LBJ.  Maybe you can use google or some other big data analytics to help you out.

Happy Hunting!

[sonofdaxjones]

pro-tip:  The fact that you don't defend Obama in the face of one of the biggest assaults on privacy and civil liberties in U.S. history is utterly irrelevant to me. 

I've been outlining that the current presidency is nothing more than extension of Bush on many levels (the current administration is just doing it in an even more clandestine manner outside of the purview of the public and its elected representatives) and to most on here, it was nothing but a big joke and/or the classic outing of closeted neo-cons. 

[Kat Kid]

pro-tip:  The fact that you don't defend Obama in the face of one of the biggest assaults on privacy and civil liberties in U.S. history is utterly irrelevant to me. 

I've been outlining that the current presidency is nothing more than extension of Bush on many levels (the current administration is just doing it in an even more clandestine manner outside of the purview of the public and its elected representatives) and to most on here, it was nothing but a big joke and/or the classic outing of closeted neo-cons.

Easy dax, the last time a martyr gave a speech like that, they ended up on a cross.

[steve dave]

whip their asses dax

[felix rex]

Combination of things. Dude's a nutjob. I won't antagonize Dax by "pretending to have inside info". I'll just let the facts of his background and actual position come out and speak for themselves.

are we now to be given only perfect vessels?  shall we insist?

Man was matter, that was Snowden's secret. Hire the triads to drop him out a window and he'll fall. Hire the triads to set fire to him and he'll burn. Hire the triads to bury him and he'll rot, like other kinds of garbage. The spirit gone, man is garbage

[0.42]

Ok, centraltexasfreak42.

Now that's not very nice.

Also I did see this guy was a Paultard and made some terrible choices about where he could/should go to avoid extradition,  but he doesn't seem nearly as whacked out or reckless as Manning. Bumbling, sure. Nutjob? idk

I mean the US Govt. is likely going to do everything in their power to slander the eff out of this guy to the press so I'm not exactly willing to trust those accounts FR. I'm curious as to why you think he's a nutjob (also see my tweet plx)

Just read his own quotes. Nobody has to waste any energy slandering him as a nutjob.

"Yes, I could be rendered by the CIA. I could have people come after me. Or any of the third-party partners. They work closely with a number of other nations. Or they could pay off the Triads. Any of their agents or assets," he said.

"We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be."

Yep. The CIA is gonna pay the Triads to off him. Yep. Happens ALL THE TIME!

You'll have to forgive me for not really believing that the CIA would have any scruples about, well, anything.

[p1k3]

I'm sure the CIA has offed people before. This guy is too high profile now though. He's safe.

[Kat Kid]

I'm sure the CIA has offed people before. This guy is too high profile now though. He's safe.

   WHOA LOOK AT THE CRAZY GUY CONSPIRACY THEORIST MAKING SOME PRETTY BIG LEAPS IN LOGIC!

[felix rex]

Ok, centraltexasfreak42.

Now that's not very nice.

Also I did see this guy was a Paultard and made some terrible choices about where he could/should go to avoid extradition, he doesn't seem nearly as whacked out or reckless as Manning. Bumbling, sure. Nutjob? idk

I mean the US Govt. is likely going to do everything in their power to slander the eff out of this guy to the press so I'm not exactly willing to trust those accounts FR. I'm curious as to why you think he's a nutjob (also see my tweet plx)

Just read his own quotes. Nobody has to waste any energy slandering him as a nutjob.

"Yes, I could be rendered by the CIA. I could have people come after me. Or any of the third-party partners. They work closely with a number of other nations. Or they could pay off the Triads. Any of their agents or assets," he said.

"We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be."

Yep. The CIA is gonna pay the Triads to off him. Yep. Happens ALL THE TIME!

You'll have to forgive me for not really believing that the CIA would have any scruples about, well, anything.

My take on his mental state has nothing to do with his voting history or where he fled. Dumb is not crazy and crazy is not necessarily dumb.

And lol at the CIA hiring triads. "Hiring triads" is the lol there. (but also a small lol at "being too high profile").

[0.42]

It's certainly too Hollywood and Keystone Cops-ish for the CIA for sure. Dunno if that makes him nuts or if he's just being dramatic. We all make stupid statements from time to time. Go cats.

[felix rex]

He claims the government is monitoring your ideas "as you type them" but then pulls his hoodie over his head and laptop when he types his passwords.

Let that sink in.

[Kat Kid]

He claims the government is monitoring your ideas "as you type them" but then pulls his hoodie over his head and laptop when he types his passwords.

Let that sink in.

wut?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He claims the government is monitoring your ideas "as you type them" but then pulls his hoodie over his head and laptop when he types his passwords.

Let that sink in.

Google does that every time you do a search. 

[star seed 7]

He claims the government is monitoring your ideas "as you type them" but then pulls his hoodie over his head and laptop when he types his passwords.

Let that sink in.

Google does that every time you do a search. 

whoops, sounds like you just got roasted rex.

[michigancat]

Dax, if this was your line of reasoning we could be best buds.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/the-numbers-dont-lie-its-irrational-to-give-up-this-much-liberty-to-fight-terror/276695/

Conor is great

[felix rex]

I'm not sure we're following each other here.

"They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,"

he stuffs pillows against the doors and “puts a large red hood over his head and laptop when entering his passwords.”

[sonofdaxjones]

In some weird twisted way, some of you remind me of this scene from a movie:

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

the transformation of the obama democrats into neocons is fascinating

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I'm not sure we're following each other here.

"They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,"

he stuffs pillows against the doors and “puts a large red hood over his head and laptop when entering his passwords.”

Ok. got it. paranoid + irrational = crazyish.

[michigancat]

How inefficient must the government be at reading our emails? I mean people I work with (private industry) can barely keep up on email.