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Painting your own dwelling
« on: June 05, 2013, 09:05:32 AM »
Difficult?  Easy?  I probably need to rent a ladder, I have purchased the paint and why the hell not?  Any pro tips?


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Re: Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 09:07:16 AM »
hire some guys to do it

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Re: Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 09:09:06 AM »
Difficult?  Easy?  I probably need to rent a ladder, I have purchased the paint and why the hell not?  Any pro tips?

you've got to power wash it first.  i think it'd be a pain in the ass to do yourself, especially in a town full of cheap labor


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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 09:14:29 AM »
K.

How much should I pay?

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 09:24:11 AM »
K.

How much should I pay?

Whatever the local gym teacher is charging between his summer driver's ed gigs.

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 09:27:23 AM »
KK,

I'm currently painting my house (about 75% finished).  My pops does it for a living and I used to help in all through Jr. and Sr. High.  What do you need to know?  It's a lot of work doing it yourself but saves you a lot of money as well.  I'm saving $5k by doing it myself.

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2013, 09:35:42 AM »
K.

How much should I pay?

Whatever the local gym teacher is charging between his summer driver's ed gigs.

Back to my original point, maybe I should just do this myself.

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 09:36:24 AM »
KK,

I'm currently painting my house (about 75% finished).  My pops does it for a living and I used to help in all through Jr. and Sr. High.  What do you need to know?  It's a lot of work doing it yourself but saves you a lot of money as well.  I'm saving $5k by doing it myself.

Any good online resource?  Should I just walk in to Home Depot like in the commercials?

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Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 09:38:51 AM »
A very large contingent of Latino gentlemen finished painting Casa De Pete this very week!

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 09:39:34 AM »
A lot of people are being unhelpful is this thread.

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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 09:40:41 AM »
K.

How much should I pay?

A larger house will cost you $5K - $7K, not including wood rot repair.  I just spent $8K on mine, and felt like I got a great deal.  Sucks.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 09:52:18 AM »
K.

How much should I pay?

A larger house will cost you $5K - $7K, not including wood rot repair.  I just spent $8K on mine, and felt like I got a great deal.  Sucks.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2013, 09:53:09 AM »
K.

How much should I pay?

A larger house will cost you $5K - $7K, not including wood rot repair.  I just spent $8K on mine, and felt like I got a great deal.  Sucks.

Yeah, zero chance I am 1) paying that 2) that mine would cost that.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2013, 09:54:40 AM »
You would be surprised how easy and quick it will be to paint your own house. Just buy the ladder, I use the crap out of mine. Do the main color first so you can get a sloppy as you want, then work on the trim. You can knock it out in one weekend if you bust balls. You can buy a sprayer but it doesn't look as good as hand painted. Just do it and use that cash on another toy to reward yourself.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2013, 09:58:02 AM »
A lot of people are being unhelpful is this thread.

1)  Do you want to spray or do you want to roll?  My recommendation is brush/roll because you will have better results, and it will last longer.  Spraying is only acceptable if you can immediately follow it back up with a roller for an even coat. (spraying takes 2 people)

2)  S.P.C.P.P. (Scrape, Prime, Caulk, Paint, Paint (2nd coat).  A lot of paints out there require a second coat for the 10-year warranty (and the first may not cover).
    a)  Scrape all lose paint
    b)  Prime all bare wood/siding, places with superficial mildew, rust, etc.
    c)  Caulk you face off.  I've gone through 2-1/2 cases of caulk so far (12 bottles in one case).  My house is all older siding though.  Caulk all gaps, windows, etc. 
    d)  Paint first coat.
    e)  Paint second coat.

3)  Utensils
    a)  Ladders (I own 4.  24ft extension, a Little Giant, 6ft step, and 12ft Extension).  Get what you need.  Buying might be cheaper than renting.
    b)  Rollers, Roller Covers, Paint Brush(s), Scraping Utensils, Paint Can Holder (for ladder), rags, can opener, stirrers, drop cloth (over cement), etc.



Just start rocking out and you will get the hang of it.  It takes a long while.  I did half of my house in the fall.  I recommend hiring someone to replace major wood rot (I shouldn't have tried to do it myself).  Call me if you have additional questions.




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Re: Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2013, 10:00:55 AM »
hire some guys to do it

SD, is there any task that your kneejerk reaction isn't to pay someone else to do it for you?

Is this you? 
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/business/la-fi-mo-man-outsourced-job-to-china-20130117

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Re: Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2013, 10:01:11 AM »
The only tools you need to get your house painted are a pen and a checkbook.

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Re: Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2013, 10:04:33 AM »
hire some guys to do it

SD, is there any task that your kneejerk reaction isn't to pay someone else to do it for you?

Is this you? 
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/business/la-fi-mo-man-outsourced-job-to-china-20130117

I do some stuff myself but only the stuff that I'm good at and that can't be done cheaply by someone else. I'm not (and I bet KK isn't) good at painting a house or doing other handyman type activities. opportunity cost or whatever.

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Re: Painting your own dwelling
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2013, 10:06:46 AM »
hire some guys to do it

SD, is there any task that your kneejerk reaction isn't to pay someone else to do it for you?

Is this you? 
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/business/la-fi-mo-man-outsourced-job-to-china-20130117

I do some stuff myself but only the stuff that I'm good at and that can't be done cheaply by someone else. I'm not (and I bet KK isn't) good at painting a house or doing other handyman type activities. opportunity cost or whatever.

I already have the paint and I'm looking labor costs vs. time on my hands right in the face.

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« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2013, 10:08:42 AM »
usually just trim the hairs, dont know any girls who like paint down there.

weird thread, imo.
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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2013, 10:16:05 AM »
usually just trim the hairs, dont know any girls who like paint down there.

weird thread, imo.

weirdo post, imo.

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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2013, 10:16:41 AM »
hire some guys to do it

SD, is there any task that your kneejerk reaction isn't to pay someone else to do it for you?

Is this you? 
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/business/la-fi-mo-man-outsourced-job-to-china-20130117

I do some stuff myself but only the stuff that I'm good at and that can't be done cheaply by someone else. I'm not (and I bet KK isn't) good at painting a house or doing other handyman type activities. opportunity cost or whatever.

I already have the paint and I'm looking labor costs vs. time on my hands right in the face.

well, get to it

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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2013, 10:19:52 AM »
hire some guys to do it

SD, is there any task that your kneejerk reaction isn't to pay someone else to do it for you?

Is this you? 
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/17/business/la-fi-mo-man-outsourced-job-to-china-20130117

I do some stuff myself but only the stuff that I'm good at and that can't be done cheaply by someone else. I'm not (and I bet KK isn't) good at painting a house or doing other handyman type activities. opportunity cost or whatever.

I already have the paint and I'm looking labor costs vs. time on my hands right in the face.

well, get to it

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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2013, 10:20:37 AM »
KK,

Power washing is def the first thing to do.  Can buy a good one for $400 or so and then use it to clean your deck, patio, etc later on.

Gotta give the house a day or two to dry after power washing.  Then go buy like a case of white paintable latex caulk and seal all your batt boards and trim to the siding to prevent water from getting behind them.

Paint the main color

Trim the trim color. 

Also, you can def use a sprayer and roll/brush back by yourself.  Used to spray and brush back all the time when I did this in HS.  Apply with sprayer over as big of an area as you can reach, then brush it into the crevices, cracks, etc then move and repeat until your house is painted.

Depending on how bad your house needs it, this will take you two to three weekends to do on your own. 

Also, check with local rental joint.  Many have man lifts that can be hauled behind a truck and moved around the house easily.  They have a bucket that you stand in with controls that allows you to move around the side of the house(up, down, sideways) that would make access to the out of reach areas much faster than the constant up/down and moving the ladder.  You should be able to rent one for about $100/day or so.  This would cut down on the time it takes to do all this in a huge way.  Like half maybe.

How long do you plan on living in this house?

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2013, 10:21:59 AM »
Painted mine last summer.  Brush.  Sherwin Williams Duration Exterior, which is expensive but bitb.  My house was white and I painted it a light tan so I only needed one coat.  If you're painting your house the same color or a darker color you should only need one coat if you bought quality paint.  Duration has a primer built in.  KK, here are the steps I did in painting my house:

Step 1: Wash the house.  You can rent a power washer and do it that way as 'clams suggested however you can also get on a ladder and scrub your house with soap and water.  I had one of those car washer thingys that you put on the end of the hose with a long handle and brush at the end, and a built in soap dispenser.  Took one day to wash my entire house this way.  Rinse with a hose after scrubbing.  You probably need to let the house dry for at least 2 days before painting.

Step 2:  Scrape the peeling paint.  I hate scraping paint, it's the worst part of a do-it-yourself paint job.  IMO some people go overboard on the scraping.  Just remove the paint that is obviously peeling, bubbling or is spider-cracked (<---made that term up for when there is a ton of cracks and it looks like a spider web).  Put a tarp, or old sheet or something below you to collect all the paint chips.

Step 3:  Paint.  People thought I was crazy using a brush but that's how my dad had always done our house when I was a kid.  I used a 4" Purdy Polyester/Nylon blend brush.  In my experience Purdy brushes are the best by far.  They maintain their shape and give you a really even coating.  They are a little more expensive though.  For the trim I used a 3" Purdy angled brush.

Trim:  Don't tape the windows.  Just be sloppy and get paint all over the glass, and then when you are done use a razor blade on the glass and remove the paint.  It comes off super easy and takes way less time than taping.  My trim needed 2 coats because I was painting white over dark blue.  So I did the first coat, then did the house and then did the 2nd coat on the trim.  This allowed me to be fast and sloppy with my base coat on the house because I knew I was putting another coat on the trim that would cover up any imperfections.

House:  The only tip on painting the main part of the house is to paint in the direction of your siding and don't stop halfway.  If your siding runs side to side (as most do) then paint maybe 4 or 5 boards at a time running side to side down your house.  Make sure you don't stop halfway down and take a break because the paint will dry and then when you start again there will be a noticeable line where you stopped/started.  Keep painting until you reach the end of the house or a window or something.  If your siding is flat and runs top to bottom it's the same idea only you will paint from top to bottom and you'll make sure you don't stop halfway down.

Cleaning Brushes:  Cleaning brushes every day can be a pain and take forever, so don't do it!  Buy some large ziploc bags (large enough to put your whole paintbrush in and after each day of painting put your brush in the bag it will stay wet for days.  If you are painting the next day just take it out in the morning and start painting again.  Eventually you'll have to wash it out completely because it will get filled with paint. 

Oh Yeah:  If you see any large gaps or cracks in the siding make sure you fill it in with some caulk (that's what she said) before painting.  Also don't paint if it's hotter than 90 degrees.  Paint won't adhere or dry correctly.

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