Will old man snyder ever win another bowl game?

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

You guys love to talk recent history, so let's do it.  In the last 10 years, K-State has had three seasons worthy of tough guy talk ('03, '11, and '12).  The other seasons in that stretch were mediocre at best.  As for KU, we've had one season in the last 10 years worthy of tough guy talk ('07).  The other seasons in that stretch were disgraceful to mediocre.  K-State is 6-4 vs. KU in the past 10 years.  The main difference between the two programs is that K-State's lows haven't been as low as KU's.  Turner Gill was a much worse coach than Ron Prince, without a doubt. 

like, what year do you think it is? weve had 10 win seasons the last two years and we can get drunk in our baseball stadium. we ARE tough guys.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

How many years do you have to go back before they start to take the advantage in head to head wins? I'd guess late 60's.

1962.  Fifty games ago.

Looking at it from the other end, KU started off owning KSU.  KU led the series 17-1-3, after the 1923 game.  Brutal.  And in the ninety years since, KU leads 47-40-2.  Most of the difference really did come in the leather helmet era.

[CNS]

Weiss is trying to live off of JUCOS and transfers

Sounds delish.  How does he prepare them?

FATJOKE!

[KITNfury]

How many years do you have to go back before they start to take the advantage in head to head wins? I'd guess late 60's.

1962.  Fifty games ago.

Looking at it from the other end, KU started off owning KSU.  KU led the series 17-1-3, after the 1923 game.  Brutal.  And in the ninety years since, KU leads 47-40-2.  Most of the difference really did come in the leather helmet era.

Interesting to say the least.

They are pretty badass to have a 7 game lead over the last 90 years. Kudos to KU.

[Skipper44]

How many years do you have to go back before they start to take the advantage in head to head wins? I'd guess late 60's.

1962.  Fifty games ago.

Looking at it from the other end, KU started off owning KSU.  KU led the series 17-1-3, after the 1923 game.  Brutal.  And in the ninety years since, KU leads 47-40-2.  Most of the difference really did come in the leather helmet era.

If you say the average fan becomes truly into cfb at age 10 (prolly to early but the maths is hard enough) he would need to be over 60 years old to say KU has won the game more in his sports following lifetime.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

Kansas:
L   10/17/2009   30   Colorado   34
L   10/24/2009   13   Oklahoma   35
L   10/31/2009   21   Texas Tech   42
L   11/7/2009   10   Kansas St.   17
L   11/14/2009   17   Nebraska   31
L   11/21/2009   20   Texas   51
L   11/28/2009   39   Missouri   41
L   10/2/2010   7   Baylor (TX)   55
L   10/14/2010   7   Kansas St.   59
L   10/23/2010   10   Texas A&M   45
L   10/30/2010   16   Iowa St.   28
W   11/6/2010   52   Colorado   45 
L   11/13/2010   3   Nebraska   20
L   11/20/2010   14   Oklahoma St.48
L   11/27/2010   7   Missouri   35
L   10/1/2011   34   Texas Tech   45
L   10/8/2011   28   Oklahoma St.   70
L   10/15/2011   17   Oklahoma   47
L   10/22/2011   21   Kansas St.   59
L   10/29/2011   0   Texas   43
L   11/5/2011   10   Iowa St.   13
L   11/12/2011   30   Baylor (TX)   31
L   11/19/2011   7   Texas A&M   61
L   11/26/2011   10   Missouri   24
L   10/6/2012   16   Kansas St.   56
L   10/13/2012   14   Oklahoma St.   20
L   10/20/2012   7   Oklahoma   52
L   10/27/2012   17   Texas   21
L   11/3/2012   14   Baylor (TX)   41
L   11/10/2012   34   Texas Tech   41
L   11/17/2012   23   Iowa St.   51
L   12/1/2012   10   West Virginia   59


 

This is ineptitude at a monumental level...  Only 8 times in that stretch have they stayed within 2 touchdowns.

 

[Mixed-Nutz]

Kansas:
L   10/17/2009   30   Colorado   34
L   10/24/2009   13   Oklahoma   35
L   10/31/2009   21   Texas Tech   42
L   11/7/2009   10   Kansas St.   17
L   11/14/2009   17   Nebraska   31
L   11/21/2009   20   Texas   51
L   11/28/2009   39   Missouri   41
L   10/2/2010   7   Baylor (TX)   55
L   10/14/2010   7   Kansas St.   59
L   10/23/2010   10   Texas A&M   45
L   10/30/2010   16   Iowa St.   28
W   11/6/2010   52   Colorado   45 
L   11/13/2010   3   Nebraska   20
L   11/20/2010   14   Oklahoma St.48
L   11/27/2010   7   Missouri   35
L   10/1/2011   34   Texas Tech   45
L   10/8/2011   28   Oklahoma St.   70
L   10/15/2011   17   Oklahoma   47
L   10/22/2011   21   Kansas St.   59
L   10/29/2011   0   Texas   43
L   11/5/2011   10   Iowa St.   13
L   11/12/2011   30   Baylor (TX)   31
L   11/19/2011   7   Texas A&M   61
L   11/26/2011   10   Missouri   24
L   10/6/2012   16   Kansas St.   56
L   10/13/2012   14   Oklahoma St.   20
L   10/20/2012   7   Oklahoma   52
L   10/27/2012   17   Texas   21
L   11/3/2012   14   Baylor (TX)   41
L   11/10/2012   34   Texas Tech   41
L   11/17/2012   23   Iowa St.   51
L   12/1/2012   10   West Virginia   59


 

This is ineptitude at a monumental level...  Only 8 times in that stretch have they stayed within 2 touchdowns.

 

So Gill is the best coach during this streak....

[pissclams]

here's their 2013 schedule.  if they don't win their first game, they're not going to win any this year either

Tech
@ TCU
OU
Baylor
@ UT
@ OSU
WVU
@ ISU
KSU

[kslim]

here's their 2013 schedule.  if they don't win their first game, they're not going to win any this year either

Tech
@ TCU
OU
Baylor
@ UT
@ OSU
WVU
@ ISU
KSU

WVU could be a winnable game, doubtful but out of that list that game and ISU are the only two i could see them even hanging close in

[Institutional Control]

ISU will beat KU by 40.

Write it down.

[pissclams]

here's their 2013 schedule.  if they don't win their first game, they're not going to win any this year either

Tech
@ TCU
OU
Baylor
@ UT
@ OSU
WVU
@ ISU
KSU

WVU could be a winnable game, doubtful but out of that list that game and ISU are the only two i could see them even hanging close in

remember this- i don't like kliff kingsbury

[kslim]

here's their 2013 schedule.  if they don't win their first game, they're not going to win any this year either

Tech
@ TCU
OU
Baylor
@ UT
@ OSU
WVU
@ ISU
KSU

WVU could be a winnable game, doubtful but out of that list that game and ISU are the only two i could see them even hanging close in

remember this- i don't like kliff kingsbury

noted, and hey I'm TSC'ing this thing as hard as I can but ISU is the only team around KU's talent level, if that game was in lawrence its probably 50/50. Looks like another year of facepalms over there, they just need some time.

[CNS]

Kliff has that game circled with bright red permanent marker(thick line, KK doesn't roll with thin line) and added a hand written hashtag in front of it. 

Tech is winning that game.

#wreckshop

[KITNfury]

Yeah, their talent level is extremely low right now.

[DQ12]

here's their 2013 schedule.  if they don't win their first game, they're not going to win any this year either

Tech
@ TCU
OU
Baylor
@ UT
@ OSU
WVU
@ ISU
KSU

WVU could be a winnable game, doubtful but out of that list that game and ISU are the only two i could see them even hanging close in

remember this- i don't like kliff kingsbury

I don't either.  I hadn't considered that as being a possible winner for KU, but breaking in a new (very young) coach with what i imagine will be at least a slightly different offensive system, on the road...could be tough.  Wouldn't be shocked to see the line on that game less than 7.5.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

ISU will beat KU by 40.

Write it down.

I just wrote it down... on a sticky note, and placed that sticky note on the side of my secondary computer monitor.

I wonder what the dumbasses at this company will do with that note when I resign in a couple weeks for a new, better job.

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think KU wins one this year, even if they lose to Tech. They would have won 1-2 games last year if Weis would have just managed the games better and played his best QB all year.

[pissclams]

even if, by some miracle, they escape the Tech game with a win, they certainly aren't going to go to TCU and win, nor will the beat OU/Baylor at home, or Texas/Ok State on the road.  imagine the mindset of a team who just went 1-6 as they line up against WVU. 

effectively, their season is over after the Tech game is what i'm saying.

[Rage Against the McKee]

even if, by some miracle, they escape the Tech game with a win, they certainly aren't going to go to TCU and win, nor will the beat OU/Baylor at home, or Texas/Ok State on the road.  imagine the mindset of a team who just went 1-6 as they line up against WVU. 

effectively, their season is over after the Tech game is what i'm saying.

West Virginia will have faced

@OU (L)
OSU (L)
@Baylor (L)
Tech (toss up)
@KSU (L)
@TCU (L)
Texas (toss up)

before facing KU. Those two will be at the bottom of the conference when they square off. It could be a very competitive game.

[BRULL]

Stud Ubbs knows the talent answer:

KANSAS

    2011: Picked 10th in the Big 12, finished at 2-10 and 10th in the Big 12.
    2012: Picked 10th in the Big 12, finished at 1-11 and 10th in the Big 12.
    2013: Picked 10th in the Big 12.

None of those are difficult selections that required much thought. The talent gap between Kansas and the rest of the Big 12 has been large since the end of 2009.