Benghazi Hearing

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WHAT IS GOING ON

Tradecraft

[OK_Cat]

Don't ask where I got this.

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Alright guys, i think i'm on to something here so stick with me

1. Most spies work at embassies or for NGO's in a country worth spying on
2. Lots of crazy stuff going on in Egypt, should prob transfer a couple spies there.
3. FR works at an embassy
4. FR is a spy

 

oh man, I would be a terrible spy. Not nearly enough of an extrovert IRL. Can you imagine just cold starting friendships non stop? That part would make me more nervous than the actual spying.

I would be a pretty bad ass spy after a few cocktails if that is the main requirement.  Bad thing is that when drunk, I agree to a lot of stuff.  Is that a good trait for a spy?  If so, I really missed my calling.   

[Emo EMAW]

Remember in "The Recruit" when Colin Farrell is supposed to go into a bar and pick up a chick only his female peer (hot) gets too drunk and he takes care of her instead and fails his mission?  That is (one of the many reasons) why I couldn't be a spy.  Who avoids a sure thing like that, amirite? 

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Remember in "The Recruit" when Colin Farrell is supposed to go into a bar and pick up a chick only his female peer (hot) gets too drunk and he takes care of her instead and fails his mission?  That is (one of the many reasons) why I couldn't be a spy.  Who avoids a sure thing like that, amirite?

Are you Colin or the drunk(fake) co-worker in this sitch?

[Emo EMAW]

Remember in "The Recruit" when Colin Farrell is supposed to go into a bar and pick up a chick only his female peer (hot) gets too drunk and he takes care of her instead and fails his mission?  That is (one of the many reasons) why I couldn't be a spy.  Who avoids a sure thing like that, amirite?

Are you Colin or the drunk(fake) co-worker in this sitch?

Could go either way, really.  Could prob do both in same night. 

[ednksu]

I do have to LOL a little at the "well the military just isn't suited for, you know, just doing stuff at the drop of a hat" talking point in regards to Benghazi.

I mean really, a Trillion plus dollar a year military/intelligence/industrial complex and we don't have anybody on alert for these kinds of things in a place like the Middle East and North Africa?

What happens when the Chinese fire one of the "carrier killer" anti-shipping missiles at us?  Do we have to convene meetings at every level of the Navy, conduct 2 years of research and write 15,000 pages of White Papers before we can react?

The foreign media was all over the AQ presence in Benghazi for months prior to the Embassy attack . . . but then again, we probably didn't want that out there all that much considering we used our "usual suspect" AL-CIAda types to overthrow Gaddafi to begin with.

6 hours to launch forces, 24 hrs to project nearly overwhelming force to nearly anywhere in the world, yeah I'd says thats pretty drop of the hat-ish. 

Also stop reading fox news.

[sonofdaxjones]

edn most things seem to be a personal afront to you . . . it was just a general comment, and I don't read Fox News. 

The vast majority of countries in this world of ours don't spend a Trillion plus dollars a year on a military/industrial/intelligence complex, so "projecting overwhelming" force in a world full of countries who spend less than 1% annually on mechanisms and methods to kill people isn't really that impressive.  Then again, I suspect most of those countries could line up enough forces to keep our military/industrial/intelligence complex bogged down for months.

[Dugout DickStone]

I buy that they don't just send a small force into an area where that force could get wiped out or captured, or where a jet could get shot down.

[ednksu]

edn most things seem to be a personal afront to you . . . it was just a general comment, and I don't read Fox News. 

The vast majority of countries in this world of ours don't spend a Trillion plus dollars a year on a military/industrial/intelligence complex, so "projecting overwhelming" force in a world full of countries who spend less than 1% annually on mechanisms and methods to kill people isn't really that impressive.  Then again, I suspect most of those countries could line up enough forces to keep our military/industrial/intelligence complex bogged down for months.

For not reading foxnews you sure do copy all their points verbatim quite well.  Its not a personal affront, but I don't deal well with people who distort crap to fit their agendas.  The bottom line is that the Republican party through their mouthpiece foxnews, has been putting out these talking points for months even thought they admit they are baseless.

I honestly think half of your work in this thread is trolling Dax.  You know pretty well how government functions and how easily and often infighting, failures of communication, and turf wars cause governmental failure.

Other reading
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/benghazi-e-mails-show-clash-between-state-department-cia/2013/05/10/5ac8a650-b989-11e2-b94c-b684dda07add_story_1.html

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The whole military could or couldn't have done something debate is an enormous rabbit hole in this discussion.

The government lied to you and then told lies to cover up their lies and people are dead and its supposedly nobody's responsibility to make sure this crap doesn't happen again. 

Edna, I'm certain you would benefit most from fox news as you clearly have no idea what the eff is really going on ever.

[Rams]

just so we're clear here, you guys are upset because a bunch of politicians lied to the american people? is this for real?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

just so we're clear here, you guys are upset because a bunch of politicians lied to the american people? is this for real?

It's a pretty short list of politicians to be using the term "a bunch", Rams.  But I appreciate the joke.

[ednksu]

The whole military could or couldn't have done something debate is an enormous rabbit hole in this discussion.

The government lied to you and then told lies to cover up their lies and people are dead and its supposedly nobody's responsibility to make sure this crap doesn't happen again. 

Edna, I'm certain you would benefit most from fox news as you clearly have no idea what the eff is really going on ever.

oh man you totally burned me, brah



And no, its been pretty well proven, that if you really want to know what is actually going on, foxnews is the last source for news. 

And the military capabilities talking point was a critical point of discussion for months until legitimate journalist proved all the talking points wrong on what resources were in the region and how long it would have taken to get support in theater.  Remember the Obama left them behind talking point?  Yeah its still a big deal, even when proven wrong.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I'm a little confused about how someone who doesn't watch fox news know so much about fox news.

Are all of your grievances based on fox news hearsay?  The facts of the Benghazi spectacle and your strange conspiracy theory of a conspiracy theory make you look like a delusional imbecile.

[EMAWmeister]

Somebody royally mumped up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Somebody royally mumped up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. I really don't understand the people who don't think the government blew it here.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Somebody royally mumped up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. I really don't understand the people who don't think the government blew it here.

They don't watch enough fox news.

[star seed 7]

Somebody royally mumped up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. I really don't understand the people who don't think the government blew it here.

i don't think anyone is against the argument that the government could have done better, but rather, people on the right seem to think obama intentionally had these people killed.

which is even more stupid.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Perfect example of fox news hearsay

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I'm a little confused about how someone who doesn't watch fox news know so much about fox news.

Are all of your grievances based on fox news hearsay?  The facts of the Benghazi spectacle and your strange conspiracy theory of a conspiracy theory make you look like a delusional imbecile.

MSNBC entire scope of investigative reporting is Fox news. Edna and a few others know everything there is to know about them from a whacky perspective.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Somebody royally mumped up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. I really don't understand the people who don't think the government blew it here.

i don't think anyone is against the argument that the government could have done better, but rather, people on the right seem to think obama intentionally had these people killed.

which is even more stupid.

Dude, where did you hear that? I think pretty much everyone in the world knows they covered the real reason because Obama's campaign mantra was "OBL is dead and Al-Qaeda is on the run". How would that play if an ambassador and 3 others were just killed by Al-Qaeda?

[star seed 7]

Somebody royally mumped up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. I really don't understand the people who don't think the government blew it here.

i don't think anyone is against the argument that the government could have done better, but rather, people on the right seem to think obama intentionally had these people killed.

which is even more stupid.

Dude, where did you hear that? I think pretty much everyone in the world knows they covered the real reason because Obama's campaign mantra was "OBL is dead and Al-Qaeda is on the run". How would that play if an ambassador and 3 others were just killed by Al-Qaeda?

read between the lines on fox news.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The anti fox news people are really outing themselves for the retards they are in this thread.