Common Sense

[8manpick]

The average drink a barista makes is far more difficult than the average drink a bartender makes. I mean, you tip when a guy pours a beer but not when a guy pours a cup of coffee?

Barttender : $2.50/hr
Barista:$(whatever minimum wage is)/hour

It's generally around $4.50 vs. $7.50. But also the bartender is going to make way more (easier) drinks per hour than a barista, but the barista has to spend way more average time on each on. I would imagine, you know, hypothetically speaking, the $3 per hour difference doesn't make up for the fact that your tip per drink and drink per hour are both less.

Ease of making drinks aside, I'm comfortable with a bartender getting paid more than a barista.

[star seed 7]

jake is almost bringing me around on this.

[sys]

people don't get tipped based on how much they make or how much work they do, dumbasses.

[HerrSonntag]

people don't get tipped based on how much they make or how much work they do, dumbasses.

the whole point of tipping is to reward someone doing alot of work.    You have a server who is attentive and does their job well: tip.  You have a server who does nothing more than ask what you want and bring it to you: no/less tip.

I feel like when people don't understand this, the whole system breaks down.

[sys]

the whole point of tipping is to reward someone doing alot of work.    You have a server who is attentive and does their job well: tip.  You have a server who does nothing more than ask what you want and bring it to you: no/less tip.

that's not the point of tipping.  the point of tipping is try to make yourself feel good.

[Stevesie60]

The average drink a barista makes is far more difficult than the average drink a bartender makes. I mean, you tip when a guy pours a beer but not when a guy pours a cup of coffee?

Barttender : $2.50/hr
Barista:$(whatever minimum wage is)/hour

It's generally around $4.50 vs. $7.50. But also the bartender is going to make way more (easier) drinks per hour than a barista, but the barista has to spend way more average time on each on. I would imagine, you know, hypothetically speaking, the $3 per hour difference doesn't make up for the fact that your tip per drink and drink per hour are both less.

Ease of making drinks aside, I'm comfortable with a bartender getting paid more than a barista.

How come?

[jtksu]

Common Sense: You should tip at a restaurant

Not Common Sense but should be: You should tip at a coffee shop

what if I just get a friggin cup of coffee?

Should be common sense to throw a dime or loose change in the tip jar.

A dime seems more like an insult than a tip.

[waks]

Common Sense: You should tip at a restaurant

Not Common Sense but should be: You should tip at a coffee shop

what if I just get a friggin cup of coffee?

Should be common sense to throw a dime or loose change in the tip jar.

A dime seems more like an insult than a tip.

That's because it is.

[sys]

what is a vegetable should be.

[Fldermaus]

The average drink a barista makes is far more difficult than the average drink a bartender makes. I mean, you tip when a guy pours a beer but not when a guy pours a cup of coffee?

Barttender : $2.50/hr
Barista:$(whatever minimum wage is)/hour

It's generally around $4.50 vs. $7.50. But also the bartender is going to make way more (easier) drinks per hour than a barista, but the barista has to spend way more average time on each on. I would imagine, you know, hypothetically speaking, the $3 per hour difference doesn't make up for the fact that your tip per drink and drink per hour are both less.

Ease of making drinks aside, I'm comfortable with a bartender getting paid more than a barista.

How come?

Baristas don't have to put up with annoying drunk people.  Also, never had to elbow my way up to the barista & tip with hope she gets to me quicker the next time.

[Testy Westy]

This might be the worst debate of all time.

[DQ12]

Plus a lot of bartenders have giant andersens!

yowza!

[Rams]

the whole point of tipping is to reward someone doing alot of work.    You have a server who is attentive and does their job well: tip.  You have a server who does nothing more than ask what you want and bring it to you: no/less tip.

that's not the point of tipping.  the point of tipping is try to make yourself feel good.

sys you have to be the most cynical person on the rough ridin' planet. don't ever change.

also you're dead wrong on this.

[OK_Cat]

sys is pretty right about this.  tipping is silly.  there are no guidelines for it.  what you might think is great service, i might think is shitty service.

[Brock Landers]

Very disappointed, thought this thread was about my favorite Thomas Paine pamphlet.

[Emo EMAW]

If it's such a big deal the barista can just get a job as a bartender. 

[Rams]

sys is pretty right about this.  tipping is silly.  there are no guidelines for it.  what you might think is great service, i might think is shitty service.

there are absolutely guidelines for it and if you think service is shitty then don't tip well and if I think it's great I'll tip accordingly, mkay?

[Emo EMAW]

Anyone gone out to eat with Euro colleagues and they're paying?  Oh man, super awkward.  They tip like 5% no matter what.  Also they have no clue what good/bad service is. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Anyone gone out to eat with Euro colleagues and they're paying?  Oh man, super awkward.  They tip like 5% no matter what.  Also they have no clue what good/bad service is.

I'm sure every place they go is good service compared to what they get in the motherland.

[Emo EMAW]

Anyone gone out to eat with Euro colleagues and they're paying?  Oh man, super awkward.  They tip like 5% no matter what.  Also they have no clue what good/bad service is.

I'm sure every place they go is good service compared to what they get in the motherland.

Very true, but they are oblivious to it.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Emo, when you go out to eat with your Euro colleagues in Europe, do they tip at all? Maybe they just don't know that 15% is standard in the USA, but they know they are expected to tip, so they just put a few dollars on the table.

[Emo EMAW]

I think they tip 5% back home, too, maybe a little less.

[jtksu]

I think they tip 5% back home, too, maybe a little less.

Depends on the country. Some automatically add it to bills, some don't. Regardless, 20% is pretty much unheard because the servers/bartenders make more per hour and some countries even have them on salary with legit benefits. (At least I know Ireland does.)

http://www.cntraveler.com/travel-tips/travel-etiquette/2008/12/Etiquette-101-Tipping-Guide

[michigancat]

Common sense: if you walk up (or down) escalators, you get to your destination super fast. What really happens his everyone just stands there like an idiot.

Common sense just isn't too common these days!

[puniraptor]

Common sense: if you walk up (or down) escalators, you get to your destination super fast. What really happens his everyone just stands there like an idiot.

Common sense just isn't too common these days!

Same with moving sidewalks in airports