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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2013, 01:49:25 PM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".

What about those that are fiscally conservative but socially liberal when it comes to civil rights issues but not welfare and stuff, are pretty good at math and are non-spiritual atheists? Asking for a friend.

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Ask your friend what he is really socially liberal about? Gay Marriage? anything else? whoa, watch out for this crazy liberal!!!

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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2013, 10:23:18 PM »
If this question is easy to answer perhaps you're not a moderate.

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« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2013, 10:35:46 PM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".

What about those that are fiscally conservative but socially liberal when it comes to civil rights issues but not welfare and stuff, are pretty good at math and are non-spiritual atheists? Asking for a friend.

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He hates those people though

Ask your friend what he is really socially liberal about? Gay Marriage? anything else? whoa, watch out for this crazy liberal!!!
not hating blacks and browns, allowing 'bortions, gun laws to some degree (is that a social issue?), not wanting to go to wars (again, social or not, idk, I've been binging).  Maybe he's been describing his views poorly, I'm not sure.
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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2013, 10:38:53 PM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".



What about those that are fiscally conservative but socially liberal when it comes to civil rights issues but not welfare and stuff, are pretty good at math and are non-spiritual atheists? Asking for a friend.

neocon

He hates those people though

Ask your friend what he is really socially liberal about? Gay Marriage? anything else? whoa, watch out for this crazy liberal!!!
not hating blacks and browns, allowing 'bortions, gun laws to some degree (is that a social issue?), not wanting to go to wars (again, social or not, idk, I've been binging).  Maybe he's been describing his views poorly, I'm not sure.

How do you feel about societal safety nets? Public transit? Affirmative Action? Public education? Environmental Laws?
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Re: Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2013, 10:50:54 PM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".



What about those that are fiscally conservative but socially liberal when it comes to civil rights issues but not welfare and stuff, are pretty good at math and are non-spiritual atheists? Asking for a friend.

neocon

He hates those people though

Ask your friend what he is really socially liberal about? Gay Marriage? anything else? whoa, watch out for this crazy liberal!!!
not hating blacks and browns, allowing 'bortions, gun laws to some degree (is that a social issue?), not wanting to go to wars (again, social or not, idk, I've been binging).  Maybe he's been describing his views poorly, I'm not sure.

How do you feel about societal safety nets? Public transit? Affirmative Action? Public education? Environmental Laws?
This is more about my friend, but he isn't big on the idea of societal safety nets for the non-disabled, but understands their necessity at least on a limited time frame basis, thinks public transit is great but thinks that KSU students that complain about parking a couple blocks off campus and walking are dumb, and thinks affirmative action was probably more necessary at one point than it is now and believes applications should be judged on their individual merit regardless of race. He went to public school and thought that went pretty well, and does think the environment needs to be protected because, you know, we only have one planet and stuff.
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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2013, 11:10:56 PM »
My EE degree and getting 100 on the first calc 2 test, 1st calc 3 test and final calc 3 test says I am good at math, or maybe you were talking about someone else?  :dunno:
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« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2013, 05:45:25 AM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".



What about those that are fiscally conservative but socially liberal when it comes to civil rights issues but not welfare and stuff, are pretty good at math and are non-spiritual atheists? Asking for a friend.

neocon

He hates those people though

Ask your friend what he is really socially liberal about? Gay Marriage? anything else? whoa, watch out for this crazy liberal!!!
not hating blacks and browns, allowing 'bortions, gun laws to some degree (is that a social issue?), not wanting to go to wars (again, social or not, idk, I've been binging).  Maybe he's been describing his views poorly, I'm not sure.

How do you feel about societal safety nets? Public transit? Affirmative Action? Public education? Environmental Laws?
This is more about my friend, but he isn't big on the idea of societal safety nets for the non-disabled, but understands their necessity at least on a limited time frame basis, thinks public transit is great but thinks that KSU students that complain about parking a couple blocks off campus and walking are dumb, and thinks affirmative action was probably more necessary at one point than it is now and believes applications should be judged on their individual merit regardless of race. He went to public school and thought that went pretty well, and does think the environment needs to be protected because, you know, we only have one planet and stuff.
Yeah, your friend is a liberal, not a libertarian.

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Re: Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2013, 06:35:16 AM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".

It was so fun to move to a different part of the country and get to meet political types that I had formerly just seen caricatured in TV and movies and stuff. Socially conservative Jewish lawyer who always "barely" votes Democrat and still hates the crap out of the Catholic Church was maybe my fave.
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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2013, 07:00:29 AM »
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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2013, 08:27:27 AM »
I encounter a lot more extreme right types, so it is easier to say they annoy me more, but I encountered a group of extreme left folks a few years ago, and they were probably worse than any group of extreme righters I've ever encountered, so I'm just not sure.

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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2013, 09:20:13 AM »
I never, ever, ever talk politics or political issues with anyone ever.  So both sides annoy me the same which is none.

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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2013, 09:55:05 AM »
I'm on board the both annoy me, but for different reasons.  The extreme right gets me with their bashing of homosexuality and the overt racism of some of their members.  The extreme left gets me with all the talk about all business being evil and destroying the world, etc....

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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2013, 10:16:01 AM »
What's the left wing equivalent of Westboro Baptist?  Would be tough to find a group more annoying imo.

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Re: For moderates only....
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2013, 10:19:08 AM »
There is nothing worse in the world than a crazy, religious, gun loving, abortion hating, Toby Keith listening, right wing redneck. Nothing!

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« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2013, 11:44:03 AM »
There is nothing worse in the world than a crazy, religious, gun loving, abortion hating, Toby Keith listening, right wing redneck. Nothing!

You're extreme left.

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« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2013, 11:47:50 AM »
There is nothing worse in the world than a crazy, religious, gun loving, abortion hating, Toby Keith listening, right wing redneck. Nothing!

I don't know. I met an extreme left guy who didn't eat any meat or dairy, but then had a slice of my sausage pizza because it had already been cooked and he "didn't want to be wasteful". GMAFB

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« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2013, 11:51:12 AM »
OT, but it depends on his reasoning for not eating meat or dairy.

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« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2013, 11:52:52 AM »
OT, but it depends on his reasoning for not eating meat or dairy.

Probably. It just seemed incredibly weird to me.

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« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2013, 11:54:22 AM »
Not really to me. I don't do a lot of things but will make exceptions from time to time.

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« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2013, 12:49:59 PM »
There is nothing worse in the world than a crazy, religious, gun loving, abortion hating, Toby Keith listening, right wing redneck. Nothing!

You're extreme left.

Did you set down your shotgun and red solo cup before typing that?

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« Reply #70 on: April 15, 2013, 02:44:29 PM »
I especially enjoy mocking "libertarians". "I think the government should stay out of the private lives of citizens, if the gheys want to do buttsecks and burn in eternal hellfire that's their decision, also they can't call it marriage, call it something else". being moderate makes me feel very, very, very high above everyone else.

I enjoy mocking the "fiscally conservative socially liberal" folks that suck at math and are also probably "spiritual but not religious".



What about those that are fiscally conservative but socially liberal when it comes to civil rights issues but not welfare and stuff, are pretty good at math and are non-spiritual atheists? Asking for a friend.

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He hates those people though

Ask your friend what he is really socially liberal about? Gay Marriage? anything else? whoa, watch out for this crazy liberal!!!
not hating blacks and browns, allowing 'bortions, gun laws to some degree (is that a social issue?), not wanting to go to wars (again, social or not, idk, I've been binging).  Maybe he's been describing his views poorly, I'm not sure.

How do you feel about societal safety nets? Public transit? Affirmative Action? Public education? Environmental Laws?
This is more about my friend, but he isn't big on the idea of societal safety nets for the non-disabled, but understands their necessity at least on a limited time frame basis, thinks public transit is great but thinks that KSU students that complain about parking a couple blocks off campus and walking are dumb, and thinks affirmative action was probably more necessary at one point than it is now and believes applications should be judged on their individual merit regardless of race. He went to public school and thought that went pretty well, and does think the environment needs to be protected because, you know, we only have one planet and stuff.
Yeah, your friend is a liberal, not a libertarian.

yeah, you can't take care of any of that stuff and still be a fiscal conservative that's good at math. (except maybe the wars thing).

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« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2013, 02:53:37 PM »
yeah, you can't take care of any of that stuff and still be a fiscal conservative that's good at math. (except maybe the wars thing).

are you using american definitions of conservative and liberal?  because i'm pretty sure the the talking point of one of the two dominant parties (maybe of both) in the last year was about how one party wanted to government spend like 24% of gdp and the other thought the right % was 19% or 21%.  whatever the actual numbers were, they clearly show how small the ideological gulf between the parties actually is (and how petty their little spats).

with regard to your post, both camps could easily fund everything mentioned without straining their fiscal preferences.
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« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2013, 02:58:05 PM »
yeah, you can't take care of any of that stuff and still be a fiscal conservative that's good at math. (except maybe the wars thing).

are you using american definitions of conservative and liberal?  because i'm pretty sure the the talking point of one of the two dominant parties (maybe of both) in the last year was about how one party wanted to government spend like 24% of gdp and the other thought the right % was 19% or 21%.  whatever the actual numbers were, they clearly show how small the ideological gulf between the parties actually is (and how petty their little spats).

with regard to your post, both camps could easily fund everything mentioned without straining their fiscal preferences.

Since you're just trying to argue semantics, how would you define "easily"?

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« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2013, 03:01:31 PM »
There is nothing worse in the world than a crazy, religious, gun loving, abortion hating, Toby Keith listening, right wing redneck. Nothing!

You're extreme left.

Did you set down your shotgun and red solo cup before typing that?

Those of us in the middle don't hate anyone or anything.

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« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2013, 03:02:49 PM »
There is nothing worse in the world than a crazy, religious, gun loving, abortion hating, Toby Keith listening, right wing redneck. Nothing!

You're extreme left.

Did you set down your shotgun and red solo cup before typing that?

Those of us in the middle don't hate anyone or anything.

you're extreme right.
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