Let's get butthurt about KU winning

[kso_FAN]

it's odd how shortsighted some of you are being as it relates to the level of play JO exhibited this season.  jo's (lack of) playing time had everything to do with jo playing like crap for the majority of the season.  a 2nd half against la salle doesn't change that.

FWIW, I agree with this and I think even JO would.

I understand the oscar hate around here and agree with much of it, but it does get old that any narrative that doesn't support oscar hate is pretty much dismissed or not considered.

[catzacker]

I think the idea that people are only upset with oscar (because he’s oscar), is fairly short sighted.  His leash has been short(er) than other players – I’m looking at you Will.  And when you look at the efficiency by which he’s played (which I’m sure oscar doesn’t) then his lack of playing time (and Will’s playing) do not correlate. 

[pissclams]

comparing will spradling to jo is pretty hilarious and something i wouldn't have thought of doing, 'grats.

[catzacker]

comparing will spradling to jo is pretty hilarious and something i wouldn't have thought of doing, 'grats.

I was comparing your theory that playing time is earned based upon performance. 

[kso_FAN]

I think the idea that people are only upset with oscar (because he’s oscar), is fairly short sighted.  His leash has been short(er) than other players – I’m looking at you Will.  And when you look at the efficiency by which he’s played (which I’m sure oscar doesn’t) then his lack of playing time (and Will’s playing) do not correlate. 

Odd comparo.

Will/Tay or JO/Gip makes sense though.

Besides, with 100% of college coaches, fair is not always (or usually) equal. Everyone knows this.

[sys]

jo's (lack of) playing time had everything to do with jo playing like crap for the majority of the season.  a 2nd half against la salle doesn't change that.

FWIW, I agree with this and I think even JO would.

you'd think you'd peruse your own thread every now and again.

[catzacker]

jo's (lack of) playing time had everything to do with jo playing like crap for the majority of the season.  a 2nd half against la salle doesn't change that.

FWIW, I agree with this and I think even JO would.

you'd think you'd peruse your own thread every now and again.

Check

[pissclams]

comparing will spradling to jo is pretty hilarious and something i wouldn't have thought of doing, 'grats.

I was comparing your theory that playing time is earned based upon performance. 

my theory was that gipson was the better option.   are you in the orris over spradling camp?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Orris and Sprads should play a game of HORSE to decide who starts next year

[Stevesie60]

Orris and Sprads should play a game of HORSE to decide who starts transfers next year

FYP

[catzacker]

comparing will spradling to jo is pretty hilarious and something i wouldn't have thought of doing, 'grats.

I was comparing your theory that playing time is earned based upon performance. 

my theory was that gipson was the better option.   are you in the orris over spradling camp?

I value what JO brings defensively, which is more than Gip, which makes up for any ppg disparity.  oscar didn’t/doesn’t.   JO's minutes had nothing to do with JO’s play.  It was oscar's preference.

[kso_FAN]

jo's (lack of) playing time had everything to do with jo playing like crap for the majority of the season.  a 2nd half against la salle doesn't change that.

FWIW, I agree with this and I think even JO would.

you'd think you'd peruse your own thread every now and again.

That's a fair point. JO put up consistent Dboarding and block numbers all year. I think the trend in oboarding (and improvement during Big 12 play) correlates well to his overall improvement in whatever it was that oscar valued in his play and thus his increase in playing time.

And he really had 2 sections of the season, he sort of bounced around early in the preseason; then starting with Gonzaga as a low point gradually worked up to playing more by the time we played KU in Manhattan. Then he had another period of bouncing around, a low point at OSU, then another trend of playing more as the season closed out. Also, his periods of playing less correlate well with the stretches that Gip played well and vice versa. 

[sys]

That's a fair point. JO put up consistent Dboarding and block numbers all year. I think the trend in oboarding (and improvement during Big 12 play) correlates well to his overall improvement in whatever it was that oscar valued in his play and thus his increase in playing time.

And he really had 2 sections of the season, he sort of bounced around early in the preseason; then starting with Gonzaga as a low point gradually worked up to playing more by the time we played KU in Manhattan. Then he had another period of bouncing around, a low point at OSU, then another trend of playing more as the season closed out. Also, his periods of playing less correlate well with the stretches that Gip played well and vice versa.

no question, gipson was a useful player and that he and jhr competed for a limited number of minutes available for bigs.  and most players, jhr had great games, bad games and a lot of games in between.  but it's impossible to look at his season-long numbers and conclude he played poorly this year.  there is absolutely no question that he was one of kstate's five best players, and honestly, if you approach the numbers without preconceptions, it'd probably be easier to argue him as the best player than the fifth best.

[CNS]

comparing will spradling to jo is pretty hilarious and something i wouldn't have thought of doing, 'grats.

I was comparing your theory that playing time is earned based upon performance. 

my theory was that gipson was the better option.   are you in the orris over spradling camp?

Gipson was the better option for oscar's system.  JO seems to like to face up and oscar's offense seems to want him to be back to the basket.  This is what I was saying in that oscar wants to run his system the way he will in the future and he thought it would be best to do so with his Soph big that likes to play it that way rather than altering it to allow JO what JO is comfy with. 

[pissclams]

also, JO has hands that react to the ball as if they were made of cinder blocks. 

[WildCatzPhreak]

Typical goEMAW, hijack a perfectly good butthurt thread to argue about basketball stuff.

[OregonSmock]

I was actually kind of butthurt about K-State losing.  Had you guys in my Sweet Sixteen.  Now my entire West bracket is toast (except for Ohio State).


 

[Powercat Posse]

I was actually kind of butthurt about K-State losing.  Had you guys in my Sweet Sixteen.  Now my entire West bracket is toast (except for Ohio State).


 

Sorry Beems, we totally blew it.  Could have had 3 Kansas schools in the Sweet 16.    Damn us.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

I was actually kind of butthurt about K-State losing.  Had you guys in my Sweet Sixteen.  Now my entire West bracket is toast (except for Ohio State).


 

I have no one left in the West. Nobody. Thanks a lot Fighting Hoibergs

[Havs]

I'd be butthurt and pissed if I wasn't friends with Beems.