Phog finding everyway they can to try and trash Eliteness

[SPEmaw]

i haven't read this yet, but the topic makes me think...how can they talk so much crap this year if our record against the other 8 teams in the league is better than theirs...and we have only lost to #1 (2x) and at #5 (1x) (where they've lost 3 total games the past two years). They're a Curtis Townsend on zebra fellatio-sesh away from being in second by themselves and also have the WLOAT in TCU. I rough ridin' hate them, you guys. I'm so NOT TSC. (me thinking about being TSC =  )

[CNS]

i haven't read this yet, but the topic makes me think...how can they talk so much crap this year if our record against the other 8 teams in the league is better than theirs...and we have only lost to #1 (2x) and at #5 (1x) (where they've lost 3 total games the past two years). They're a Curtis Townsend on zebra fellatio-sesh away from being in second by themselves and also have the WLOAT in TCU. I rough ridin' hate them, you guys. I'm so NOT TSC. (me thinking about being TSC =  )

It's a trick to get you to discuss how they have beaten us twice.

[kslim]

 Ben do you know how bad it hurts to be called a grape?

It's just a game good grief

[SPEmaw]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU OR Texas Tech, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

FYP, even worse.

[SPEmaw]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

You omitted all mention of a good Tech team that you did not meet either. Further, that VT team was awful. The missouri game was never in doubt and I hate you.

[ednksu]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

You omitted all mention of a good Tech team that you did not meet either. Further, that VT team was awful. The missouri game was never in doubt and I hate you.

I love it when he tries to sunshine pump Va-Tech.  Really shows he has no rough ridin' clue what is going on in college football. 

[SPEmaw]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

You omitted all mention of a good Tech team that you did not meet either. Further, that VT team was awful. The missouri game was never in doubt and I hate you.

I love it when he tries to sunshine pump Va-Tech.  Really shows he has no rough ridin' clue what is going on in college football.

this. what a dork.

btw, it's been all crickets over there since dax threw out the "who was guarding brown/smart & that loser from TCU (I can't even name without searching their roster)?" question. DORKS

[p1k3]

the Big 12 was pretty awful that year

[pasadenacat]

Topic: Phog finding everyway they can to try and trash Eliteness

Of course they do.  They have an inferiority complex.

[420seriouscat69]

It's simple. Lil bro: 8----- Big Bro: 8---------------------------------------------p 

[mocat]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu but not as good or as deserving of the bcs as 07 mizzou

[MixBerryCrunch]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu but not as good or as deserving of the bcs as 07 mizzou

No.

[MakeItRain]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

I think the point is that some of you talk about this like it was yesterday, very weird that the poster put that pic up in a basketball thread. That 12-1 season loses some luster after 5 years and really loses luster when you go 19-42 in said 5 years.

[kitten_mittons]

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu

[HerrSonntag]

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu

[sonofdaxjones]

I'll absolutely continue to invalidate ku's 2007 Orange Bowl in the context of the Mt. Everest of Butthurt that the phogtucks exhibited for years about how K-State never played anybody/beat anybody.   In Snyder's entire tenure K-State never had the good fortune to go two entire regular seasons, and only play 1 game against a Final Top 25 team, like ku had in 2006 and 2007.   So the phogtucks utterly invalidated K-State despite the fact that K-State played 2, sometimes 3 and occasionally 4 FINAL Top 25 teams every year during the regular season . . . with many of those years having games against eventual National Champions and arguably some of the best teams in college football history.  So I'll invalidate the absolute pud that was ku's 2007 regular season schedule all day long and twice on Sunday.

Hell Texas A&M walked into the Dome in St. Louis ranked 10th in the country in 1998. 

After 2007 the schedule stiffened and it was nothing but a race BACK to the bottom for the worst football program in the Big 12.

[CatMission]

Let's also not forget that for KU to have their glory year in football, it took the coaching triumvirate of Bill Callahan, Dan Hawkins and Ron Prince. Even with the three powers struggling they couldn't get past Gary Pinkel.

[nicname]

This thread started out pretty neat.

[bones129]

Let's also not forget that for KU to have their glory year in football, it took the coaching triumvirate of Bill Callahan, Dan Hawkins and Ron Prince. Even with the three powers struggling they couldn't get past Gary Pinkel.

Good point. 

[Havs]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

But... but... but....  Mangino is fat!

[SPEmaw]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu but not as good or as deserving of the bcs as 07 mizzou

I disagree - we beat one of the best CFB teams in the the 10 years before '03 and since. Had we not played without ER3 early, we do a lot more than we ended up accomplishing. The '03 team (with ER3 healthy) would have destroyed '07 KU. Not even close, IMO. Oh, and eff TSC.

[Phil Titola]

it baffles me how every ku fan brings up their orange bowl victory when talking about football and tries to hold it over our heads. like having a bcs bowl win 5 years ago somehow makes them better than us forever. what will they say when the bcs is gone next year and viewed as a failed postseason format?

Gotta keep on that horse until it dies....next year.  Expect to hear it a lot.

The difference is that we won the North and went on to beat the crap out of the #1 team in the country.  KU on the other hand, didn't play Texas or OU, didn't win the North and didn't play in the Big 12 title game. 

Yup no difference.   


It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, one thing is for sure... you guys are extremely butthurt about that 12-1 Orange Bowl season.  Every time a KU fan brings it up, grapes are the first to try to invalidate it.  The Big 12 schedule worked in KU's favor that year, but don't act like we would have been guaranteed to lose against Texas and OU.  Texas lost at home to K-State that year, and OU lost at Colorado.  KU, on the other hand, won at K-State and at Colorado, and beat everyone on the schedule except for a top 5 Mizzou team (lost by 8 on a neutral field).  If anything, KU's Orange Bowl season is better than K-State's '03 Big 12 championship year.  KU finished 12-1, #7 in the BCS, with a BCS Bowl win over a top 10 Virginia Tech team, while K-State lost at home to Marshall and finished with four losses total in that '03 season.

Wow...no way that was posted off the cuff.  That thing is saved in a text file somewhere to be copied and pasted as needed.  In case of emergency as it were.   

[deputy dawg]

It's a great moment for KU football.  It's basically just a reminder to everyone that KU can get it done with the right coach, just like K-State.  It's really no different than K-State fans who bragged about the '03 Big 12 title against Oklahoma.

Well, here's the rub:  KU fans believe that winning one game > winning enough games against good opponents to win a conference championship.  Whenever a KU fan cites that Orange Bowl win, knowing that one game is all they have to hang onto, is that they are tragic victims of small dick syndrome. 

[jmlynch1]

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu but not as good or as deserving of the bcs as 07 mizzou

Did you even watch cfb back then? Besides ND games.

[mocat]

I think 07 ku was better than 03 ksu but not as good or as deserving of the bcs as 07 mizzou

Did you even watch cfb back then? Besides ND games.

the 03 team was all over the place. kinda like the 08 bball team. if 03 ksu played against 07 ku and both played up their potential, yes obviously 03 would destroy the 07 ku team. my point is, BEEMS, that nobody is comparing 03 ksu to 07 ku except you. the only reason anybody is butt hurt about the 07 ku team is because they:
1. lost to MU
2. did not win the north
3. did not play OU or UT

and yet still go the BCS bid over MU.