#gottlieb4ksu weighs in on KU vs. ISU end of regulation

[CNS]

Guys, you can post without quoting on your next post and we will all know that you are continuing that discussion.  TIA

[Winters]

it happens to every team at some point or another. 

Do you have an example of KU losing a game in a similar situation?

last saturday: johnson's shot is goal tended that would have given ku the win in regulation.  on the replay the ball was coming down. 

It most certainly was not

wrong.  it was coming down without question on the replay.  you can't argue against this, it's dropped at least a few inches.

 

[cork_sniffer]

If I was an ISU i'd be pretty pissed too but more at my team for folding down the stretch so often. 

I've posted plenty about ISU's problems in that game, and they certainly did their fair share to lose.

But you've got to be extremely biased to not see the impact of not one, not two, but three tough calls that went KU's way all in the final minute. The Withey non foul out, the non charge/block, and then the loose ball call all compound the impact. If it was just one bad call I'd give the KU fan talking point about bad officiating throughout the game more credence, but the impact of all 3 calls in the final minute makes that impossible for me. KU fans don't have to agree, but you've got to at least acknowledge why not just fans biased against KU, but most neutral fans as well, feel the way they do about the way the final minute was officiated.

sure but how many 'neutral' fans are biased against KU?  how many of those fans watched the game?  most probably just saw the highlights or the last few minutes of regulation and overtime if anything.  You can spin it anyway you want but ISU didn't lose the game on that no call. 

So then everyone saying it was a bad call (the big 12 conference included) and cost ISU the game is biased, but you're not?

no, i'm saying that the officials didn't give the game to ku and isu had plenty of opportunities to win regardless.  putting the entire game's outcome on a no call with 8 seconds left when ISU is up 2 points and had a chance in OT is a very biased and irrational way of looking at things.

KU had plenty of opportunities to make shots and win this game without the officials having to give it to them.

so you are completely ignoring any no calls that got ISU baskets down the stretch?  again, you can't just isolate one play.

I honestly have no idea what you are even talking about right now.

if you are going to nitpick one side then nitpick the other.  blatant moving screens is a good place to start.  at the end of the day it's all foolish though.

Were the refs calling a ton of moving screens on KU or something?

so you didn't watch the game huh?  shocking.

[8manpick]

it happens to every team at some point or another. 

Do you have an example of KU losing a game in a similar situation?

last saturday: johnson's shot is goal tended that would have given ku the win in regulation.  on the replay the ball was coming down. 

It most certainly was not

wrong.  it was coming down without question on the replay.  you can't argue against this, it's dropped at least a few inches.

without question, my ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WTX9YfWBE10#t=37s

[WillieWatanabe]

which website does the Win % chart during the game? What was the change before/after the call? Sorry if it's been posted and i missed it.

[cork_sniffer]

it happens to every team at some point or another. 

Do you have an example of KU losing a game in a similar situation?

last saturday: johnson's shot is goal tended that would have given ku the win in regulation.  on the replay the ball was coming down. 

It most certainly was not

wrong.  it was coming down without question on the replay.  you can't argue against this, it's dropped at least a few inches.

without question, my ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WTX9YfWBE10#t=37s

again, if you watched the actual game they showed it from court level facing the basket and slowed it down.  it was coming down.

I think it was a good no call though but it was a late game missed call technically and that is what you asked for. 

the difference is ku won the game in overtime anyway.  if withey had done the same to OSU then OSU lost then all hell would break loose.  wouldn't you agree?

[Rage Against the McKee]

if withey had done the same to OSU then OSU lost then all hell would break loose.  wouldn't you agree?

I'm pretty sure everyone would be talking about that great block Withey made to save the game.

[hatingfrancisco]

which website does the Win % chart during the game? What was the change before/after the call? Sorry if it's been posted and i missed it.

[cork_sniffer]

i'm pretty sure ISU and KU were tied at the end of regulation...after KU had to make two free throws AND ISU had a chance to make a last second shot. 

any whining about that is for losers. 

[WillieWatanabe]

which website does the Win % chart during the game? What was the change before/after the call? Sorry if it's been posted and i missed it.

wow. thx.

LOL

[CNS]

"Sorry for three or four hugely shitty calls that altered possession and score in the last min of reg, but hey, you had a shot to launch a rushed scramble shot at the end to win it, didn't you?"

Again, the conference apologized.  You are the Iraqi general guy waving off cameras saying that nothing is happening while crap is exploding in the background.

[Rage Against the McKee]

i'm pretty sure ISU and KU were tied at the end of regulation...after KU had to make two free throws AND ISU had a chance to make a last second shot. 

any whining about that is for losers.

Maybe the next time we play and you are up by 5 with 1 minute to play, we can just have the officials tie up the score and give you 4.5 seconds to run the court and take the last shot. You would have to be a loser to whine about that.

[kostakio]

That didn't even look like a goal tend it's way different then an obvious charge not called followed by a phantom bail out call.  Even if they would have called the goal tend OSU has the ball down 2 with 45 seconds left so you can't say with any certainty that KU wins in regulation under that scneario.  I can say with about 99% certainty that ISU wins the game if the proper calls were made at the end. 

[cork_sniffer]

That didn't even look like a goal tend it's way different then an obvious charge not called followed by a phantom bail out call.  Even if they would have called the goal tend OSU has the ball down 2 with 45 seconds left so you can't say with any certainty that KU wins in regulation under that scneario.  I can say with about 99% certainty that ISU wins the game if the proper calls were made at the end.

so you are saying that ISU should have won the game and are blaming the officials for them losing? 

So KU gets all the calls and that is the reason they own the league every year? 

 

(btw, Johnson scored 30 points in last 15 minutes of the game...which had nothing to do with it right?)

[CNS]

You guys are a fantastic team with a top 3 coach and a lot of talent.  that is why your what you are.  However, yes, ISU would have won that game if the ridic reffing didn't happen in the last minute of that game. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Gotta say, I'm really enjoying cork's contribution to this thread. Is he somebody's sock? He just lobs up every softball idiotic excuse being offered by KU fans to justify that travesty of an ending and then WHAM, one brilliant poster or another swats it down. Well done cork and goEMAW. 

The commentators agree it was a travesty, the freakin' Big 12 agrees it was a travesty, but KU fans just keep on truckin'!

[cork_sniffer]

Gotta say, I'm really enjoying cork's contribution to this thread. Is he somebody's sock? He just lobs up every softball idiotic excuse being offered by KU fans to justify that travesty of an ending and then WHAM, one brilliant poster or another swats it down. Well done cork and goEMAW. 

The commentators agree it was a travesty, the freakin' Big 12 agrees it was a travesty, but KU fans just keep on truckin'!

you are just mad that KU got the benefit of a few bad calls.  you'd be overjoyed if it was the other way around.  admit it.

[Mr Bread]

Gotta say, I'm really enjoying cork's contribution to this thread. Is he somebody's sock? He just lobs up every softball idiotic excuse being offered by KU fans to justify that travesty of an ending and then WHAM, one brilliant poster or another swats it down. Well done cork and goEMAW. 

If you're enjoying this then you are a total dumbass.  Some of the worst bbsing since I've been here in these exchanges.  I actually think you said this though just to kiss some gE ass.  Nobody here respects that except 'clams. 

[SEK_EMAW]

Gotta say, I'm really enjoying cork's contribution to this thread. Is he somebody's sock? He just lobs up every softball idiotic excuse being offered by KU fans to justify that travesty of an ending and then WHAM, one brilliant poster or another swats it down. Well done cork and goEMAW. 

The commentators agree it was a travesty, the freakin' Big 12 agrees it was a travesty, but KU fans just keep on truckin'!

you are just mad that KU got the benefit of a few bad calls.  you'd be overjoyed if it was the other way around.  admit it.

Hell yes we would admit it. 

Like has already been said, you need to stop making excuses, accept what happened Monday night as a gift, and tell people to 'deal with it'.

[kso_FAN]

you'd be overjoyed if it was the other way around.  admit it.

Absolutely.

But the difference is most (all?) people at gE would thoroughly enjoy rubbing it in the faces of others, especially when loser fans came telling us how they got hosed.

Of course the best team got the critical calls. That's what happens to loser programs against the best programs. Get better or deal with it.

[cork_sniffer]

Gotta say, I'm really enjoying cork's contribution to this thread. Is he somebody's sock? He just lobs up every softball idiotic excuse being offered by KU fans to justify that travesty of an ending and then WHAM, one brilliant poster or another swats it down. Well done cork and goEMAW. 

The commentators agree it was a travesty, the freakin' Big 12 agrees it was a travesty, but KU fans just keep on truckin'!

you are just mad that KU got the benefit of a few bad calls.  you'd be overjoyed if it was the other way around.  admit it.

Hell yes we would admit it. 

Like has already been said, you need to stop making excuses, accept what happened Monday night as a gift, and tell people to 'deal with it'.

so should KU put an asterisk next to their record?  what do you want to happen?

[CNS]

Gotta say, I'm really enjoying cork's contribution to this thread. Is he somebody's sock? He just lobs up every softball idiotic excuse being offered by KU fans to justify that travesty of an ending and then WHAM, one brilliant poster or another swats it down. Well done cork and goEMAW. 

The commentators agree it was a travesty, the freakin' Big 12 agrees it was a travesty, but KU fans just keep on truckin'!

you are just mad that KU got the benefit of a few bad calls.  you'd be overjoyed if it was the other way around.  admit it.

Hell yes we would admit it. 

Like has already been said, you need to stop making excuses, accept what happened Monday night as a gift, and tell people to 'deal with it'.

so should KU put an asterisk next to their record?  what do you want to happen?

There is nothing wrong with admitting to witnessing something, understanding what it was, and still being happy as hell that it happened.

[SEK_EMAW]

so should KU put an asterisk next to their record?  what do you want to happen?

KU doesn't have to do anything.  KU fans just need to stop making lame excuses.

[cork_sniffer]

ok so KU got a call, a no-call, and a mistake on a foul being attributed to the wrong player.  So apparently that means that ISU only lost because of that. 

happy?

[kso_FAN]

What you should have posted.

The best teams get the calls, especially in late game situations. We're the best team, and its not even close. 9ST8.