JJ's on the Plaza just blew up...

[420seriouscat69]

Carnes, sit this one out. Don't be a dumbass. I'm going to assume you don't have the balls to run into a burning building.

[kim carnes]

Carnes, sit this one out. Don't be a dumbass. I'm going to assume you don't have the balls to run into a burning building.

i absolutely have the balls.

[KCFDcat]

I've always wanted one of those fires where you roll up and just think  "oh crap ."

Now that it's happened i feel sort of bad for wanting that.

Great fire though.

You earned this, bro.   Thanks for your efforts. 

he probably spends the majority of his time doing nothing

Im a lieutenant/paramedic on an engine that runs an avg of 15 alarms a day. That's approximately 10 hours of work plus another 5-7 to write reports. Plus allof the other misc duties i have to complete each day.

but yeah, i don't do anything.

Shut the eff up Kim Carnes, bad time to troll. Also, I always have preferred the British pronunciation leftenant, thoughts?

i always  thought leftennant was something different. Could be wrong 

[KCFDcat]

Carnes, sit this one out. Don't be a dumbass. I'm going to assume you don't have the balls to run into a burning building.

i absolutely have the balls.

 

[nicname]

Wow.  That sucks on so many levels.

Brings to mind the Crown Center tragedy  from years ago.

[DQ12]

solid firefightin' there kcfd

[mocat]

I've always wanted one of those fires where you roll up and just think  "oh crap ."

Now that it's happened i feel sort of bad for wanting that.

Great fire though.

You earned this, bro.   Thanks for your efforts. 

he probably spends the majority of his time doing nothing

Im a lieutenant/paramedic on an engine that runs an avg of 15 alarms a day. That's approximately 10 hours of work plus another 5-7 to write reports. Plus allof the other misc duties i have to complete each day.

but yeah, i don't do anything.

Shut the eff up Kim Carnes, bad time to troll. Also, I always have preferred the British pronunciation leftenant, thoughts?

i always  thought leftennant was something different. Could be wrong

I think its due to the British having a deep seeded hatred of all things French. Could be wrong.

[EMAWmeister]

Carnes, sit this one out. Don't be a dumbass. I'm going to assume you don't have the balls to run into a burning building.

i absolutely have the balls.

The guy talking crap on firefighters over the internet has the balls to run into a gas line explosion.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Oh man if the construction company that nobody wanted down there ended up causing the explosion, the lawsuits will be Crown Center walkway-esque 

Crown Center was a design flaw on the engineers end. The plans they drew up showed the walkway couldn't withstand the weight and they ignored it or didn't see it, that's why they got sued. Someone gave their word as a professional that the design was good to go and it wasn't.

Unless there was a flaw with the gas company's installation of the gas line and a car crash caused the leak, I don't think it even matters if they called or not, they won't be held liable. If it was leaking before hand that's another story. As far as I know, utility companies are not responsible for anything besides "wear and tear" especially if damage happens that quickly.

Yeah, it reminds you of Crown Center because they are both tragedies in Kansas City. One was a series of dumbasses being lazy, this sounds like a straight up accident.

On another note, how'd you like to be the person who crashed your car into the building and made it go boom? T's and P's for everyone.

[EMAWmeister]

Oh man if the construction company that nobody wanted down there ended up causing the explosion, the lawsuits will be Crown Center walkway-esque 

Crown Center was a design flaw on the engineers end. The plans they drew up showed the walkway couldn't withstand the weight and they ignored it or didn't see it, that's why they got sued. Someone gave their word as a professional that the design was good to go and it wasn't.

Unless there was a flaw with the gas company's installation of the gas line and a car crash caused the leak, I don't think it even matters if they called or not, they won't be held liable. If it was leaking before hand that's another story. As far as I know, utility companies are not responsible for anything besides "wear and tear" especially if damage happens that quickly.

Yeah, it reminds you of Crown Center because they are both tragedies in Kansas City. One was a series of dumbasses being lazy, this sounds like a straight up accident.

On another note, how'd you like to be the person who crashed your car into the building and made it go boom? T's and P's for everyone.

It sounds like it was a backhoe that was just digging.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Yeah, I'm reading a few reports that say a contractor was digging and knocked it loose but reported it this afternoon and warned people in the restaurant. Those say nothing about a car crash.

Other reports say a car crash caused the explosion but don't mention much about the contractor.

Those lines are pretty far underground for a reason, I doubt the car crash had much to do with it. Either way, it would be on the contractor not the gas company.

[EMAWmeister]

Crazy pictures here

[AbeFroman]

Holy eff

[Emo EMAW]

Oh man if the construction company that nobody wanted down there ended up causing the explosion, the lawsuits will be Crown Center walkway-esque 

Crown Center was a design flaw on the engineers end. The plans they drew up showed the walkway couldn't withstand the weight and they ignored it or didn't see it, that's why they got sued. Someone gave their word as a professional that the design was good to go and it wasn't.

Unless there was a flaw with the gas company's installation of the gas line and a car crash caused the leak, I don't think it even matters if they called or not, they won't be held liable. If it was leaking before hand that's another story. As far as I know, utility companies are not responsible for anything besides "wear and tear" especially if damage happens that quickly.

Yeah, it reminds you of Crown Center because they are both tragedies in Kansas City. One was a series of dumbasses being lazy, this sounds like a straight up accident.

On another note, how'd you like to be the person who crashed your car into the building and made it go boom? T's and P's for everyone.

Kinda true, kinda not true.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, I'm reading a few reports that say a contractor was digging and knocked it loose but reported it this afternoon and warned people in the restaurant. Those say nothing about a car crash.

Other reports say a car crash caused the explosion but don't mention much about the contractor.

Those lines are pretty far underground for a reason, I doubt the car crash had much to do with it. Either way, it would be on the contractor not the gas company.

If the contractor reported the gas leak in the afternoon, then why were the businesses still open?

[mocat]

Oh man if the construction company that nobody wanted down there ended up causing the explosion, the lawsuits will be Crown Center walkway-esque 

Crown Center was a design flaw on the engineers end. The plans they drew up showed the walkway couldn't withstand the weight and they ignored it or didn't see it, that's why they got sued. Someone gave their word as a professional that the design was good to go and it wasn't.

Unless there was a flaw with the gas company's installation of the gas line and a car crash caused the leak, I don't think it even matters if they called or not, they won't be held liable. If it was leaking before hand that's another story. As far as I know, utility companies are not responsible for anything besides "wear and tear" especially if damage happens that quickly.

Yeah, it reminds you of Crown Center because they are both tragedies in Kansas City. One was a series of dumbasses being lazy, this sounds like a straight up accident.

On another note, how'd you like to be the person who crashed your car into the building and made it go boom? T's and P's for everyone.

Kinda true, kinda not true.

Yeah not to derail this thread, but yeah, it was a shitty design to begin with. The two channels facing each other instead of back to back was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (still would have worked), and the design required a nut to be threaded like 20 feet, so the fabricator changed the design in the shop drawing stage. Engineer didn't catch it during shop drawing review. The change resulted in twice the load going to the shittily designed connection. Combo of the two resulted in the disaster.

[Emo EMAW]

Oh man if the construction company that nobody wanted down there ended up causing the explosion, the lawsuits will be Crown Center walkway-esque 

Crown Center was a design flaw on the engineers end. The plans they drew up showed the walkway couldn't withstand the weight and they ignored it or didn't see it, that's why they got sued. Someone gave their word as a professional that the design was good to go and it wasn't.

Unless there was a flaw with the gas company's installation of the gas line and a car crash caused the leak, I don't think it even matters if they called or not, they won't be held liable. If it was leaking before hand that's another story. As far as I know, utility companies are not responsible for anything besides "wear and tear" especially if damage happens that quickly.

Yeah, it reminds you of Crown Center because they are both tragedies in Kansas City. One was a series of dumbasses being lazy, this sounds like a straight up accident.

On another note, how'd you like to be the person who crashed your car into the building and made it go boom? T's and P's for everyone.

Kinda true, kinda not true.

Yeah not to derail this thread, but yeah, it was a shitty design to begin with. The two channels facing each other instead of back to back was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (still would have worked), and the design required a nut to be threaded like 20 feet, so the fabricator changed the design in the shop drawing stage. Engineer didn't catch it during shop drawing review. The change resulted in twice the load going to the shittily designed connection. Combo of the two resulted in the disaster.

Nailed it!

[pissclams]

Yeah, I'm reading a few reports that say a contractor was digging and knocked it loose but reported it this afternoon and warned people in the restaurant. Those say nothing about a car crash.

Other reports say a car crash caused the explosion but don't mention much about the contractor.

Those lines are pretty far underground for a reason, I doubt the car crash had much to do with it. Either way, it would be on the contractor not the gas company.

If the contractor reported the gas leak in the afternoon, then why were the businesses still open?

they closed the kitchen and turned off their appliances, but were still serving drinks, because they were told it was safe.  until they were told it wasn't safe, and then it blew up.

[puniraptor]

Oh man if the construction company that nobody wanted down there ended up causing the explosion, the lawsuits will be Crown Center walkway-esque 

Crown Center was a design flaw on the engineers end. The plans they drew up showed the walkway couldn't withstand the weight and they ignored it or didn't see it, that's why they got sued. Someone gave their word as a professional that the design was good to go and it wasn't.

Unless there was a flaw with the gas company's installation of the gas line and a car crash caused the leak, I don't think it even matters if they called or not, they won't be held liable. If it was leaking before hand that's another story. As far as I know, utility companies are not responsible for anything besides "wear and tear" especially if damage happens that quickly.

Yeah, it reminds you of Crown Center because they are both tragedies in Kansas City. One was a series of dumbasses being lazy, this sounds like a straight up accident.

On another note, how'd you like to be the person who crashed your car into the building and made it go boom? T's and P's for everyone.

Kinda true, kinda not true.

Yeah not to derail this thread, but yeah, it was a shitty design to begin with. The two channels facing each other instead of back to back was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (still would have worked), and the design required a nut to be threaded like 20 feet, so the fabricator changed the design in the shop drawing stage. Engineer didn't catch it during shop drawing review. The change resulted in twice the load going to the shittily designed connection. Combo of the two resulted in the disaster.

Nailed it!

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Yeah, was doing my best to try to differentiate between a gas leak and a walkway collapsing without engineering it up. You guys did a better job than I did. Although, I thought the designer had been notified of the change and knew that it wouldn't bear the load.

[ksucrcoop]

I'm about 1/2 mile from JJs. I thought the wife had slammed the front door really hard or something. It literally shook all our windows.

Also, dumbass johnny rowlands was hoovering non-stop above my house at 5AM this morning 

Crazy scene.

[Emo EMAW]

I'm about 1/2 mile from JJs. I thought the wife had slammed the front door really hard or something. It literally shook all our windows.

Also, dumbass johnny rowlands was hoovering non-stop above my house at 5AM this morning 

Crazy scene.

Laser pointer.

[pissclams]

I'm about 1/2 mile from JJs. I thought the wife had slammed the front door really hard or something. It literally shook all our windows.

Also, dumbass johnny rowlands was hoovering non-stop above my house at 5AM this morning 

Crazy scene.

yes, it woke me up too.  i knew it would but that didn't make me any less mad when they actually showed up.  hovering.

[mocat]

I'm about 1/2 mile from JJs. I thought the wife had slammed the front door really hard or something. It literally shook all our windows.

Also, dumbass johnny rowlands was hoovering non-stop above my house at 5AM this morning 

Crazy scene.

yes, it woke me up too.  i knew it would but that didn't make me any less mad when they actually showed up.  hovering.

Wait, was Johnny Rowlands vacuuming on your roof? 

[pissclams]

no because if he was i would have told him to stop so i could catch a few more of those precious 5 am Zzzzss.