it would be about the same size as old JJ's minus the bar. and that's where the problem lies with me. the bar and patio at JJ's was my favorite in KC and something that couldn't be recreated at CV. also, the kitchen at coal vines is roughly the size of a 737's bathroom. regardless- it sounds like he's looking somewhere else now, i'll ask around this weekend and find out. come to think about it for a sec, maybe the CV space is still in play. someone ITK A+ source mentioned it to me a couple weeks ago.