Monday Night at Allen FH

[emawer]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU, just curious when the last time KSU went to allen fieldhouse ranked higher than KU?

['taterblast]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU

i don't think this is true

[emawer]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU

i don't think this is true

How so?

['taterblast]

if ku wins saturday they will be 20-3 just coming off a decent road win, TCU will be thought of as a fluke and i don't think the voters will put us ahead of them. i could be wrong?

[Cartierfor3]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU

i don't think this is true

How so?

We have 4 losses. They have 3.

4 > 3

[emawer]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU

i don't think this is true

How so?

We have 4 losses. They have 3.

4 > 3

Ok lets say KU loses at OU and we win, whens the last time we went there ranked higher?

[AbeFroman]

They had not lost 2 in a row in 264 games. If they lose 3 in a row they won't know how to recover and the tailspin will become a dumpster fire. OU is a must win for them. If they don't win Saturday, we'll win on Monday.

[kso_FAN]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU, just curious when the last time KSU went to allen fieldhouse ranked higher than KU?

February 20th, 1982. We were #18, they were unranked. Cats won 63-53.

[bigwillie20]

If they don't win Saturday, we'll win on Monday.

Eh, I'd like to hope so.  We haven't went in there and not crap our pants at tipoff in awhile now though

[Dugout DickStone]

Biggest event in Lawrence this year.  It might be an actual sellout.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

Torn.

On the one hand, I want KU to beat OU, because there is no way in hell they lose 4 in a row...we would have no shot, and I'd enjoy beating KU.

On the other hand, KU losing to OU would put us in the running to get a share of the conference championship, but we all know basketball championships are nearly worthless.

This is a pickle.  I think I root for KU to win at OU, and lose to use on Monday.

Join me in doing the right thing, Pete...  To hell with TSC, root for ku to lose each and every time they take the floor.  As demonstrated last night, the greater the underdog that beats them, the better life is the next day...

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU, just curious when the last time KSU went to allen fieldhouse ranked higher than KU?

February 20th, 1982. We were #18, they were unranked. Cats won 63-53.

You sure about that??   I could've sworn we were ranked in '88 when Mitch Richmond scored 35 in Allen to break an insane home court winning streak and they were unranked for sure.

[kso_FAN]

You sure about that??   I could've sworn we were ranked in '88 when Mitch Richmond scored 35 in Allen to break an insane home court winning streak and they were unranked for sure.

Maybe in the coaches, media guide (AP) says both teams were unranked.

[emawer]

You sure about that??   I could've sworn we were ranked in '88 when Mitch Richmond scored 35 in Allen to break an insane home court winning streak and they were unranked for sure.

Maybe in the coaches, media guide (AP) says both teams were unranked.

Yeah I would have thought 88 for sure.

[scottwildcat]

We're gonna get beat by 18, and it's fine.

yeah this. It would be nice to compete, but we won't. I'm not too worried about it. If we want to win the B12 we are going to need help regardless of if we win vs them on Monday or not.

 

how's that, exactly?

we are going to lose 1 or 2 or more games rest of the year.

[pufiZzle]

We're gonna get beat by 18, and it's fine.

yeah this. It would be nice to compete, but we won't. I'm not too worried about it. If we want to win the B12 we are going to need help regardless of if we win vs them on Monday or not.

 

how's that, exactly?

we are going to lose 1 or 2 or more games rest of the year.

How you so wise?

[Deez Nutz]

You sure about that??   I could've sworn we were ranked in '88 when Mitch Richmond scored 35 in Allen to break an insane home court winning streak and they were unranked for sure.

Maybe in the coaches, media guide (AP) says both teams were unranked.

Yeah I would have thought 88 for sure.

We weren't ranked for most of '88 because we looked pretty bad early in the year and had some non-con losses.  They were not properly utilizing the talent of Mitch Richmond, and the offense had to be completely revamped over the Christmas break so that he basically got to touch the ball on every possession from that point on.  So once conference play started they improved a lot and looked like a completely different team.  They were blown out at #12 Purdue by 30 points in December and then end up beating #3 ranked Purdue in the NCAA tournament to advance to the Elite 8.   

[mocat]

We're gonna get beat by 18, and it's fine.

yeah this. It would be nice to compete, but we won't. I'm not too worried about it. If we want to win the B12 we are going to need help regardless of if we win vs them on Monday or not.

 

how's that, exactly?

we are going to lose 1 or 2 or more games rest of the year.

When you have a chance to win out and win the conference, that's not called "needing help regardless"

[yoman]

We're gonna get beat by 18, and it's fine.

yeah this. It would be nice to compete, but we won't. I'm not too worried about it. If we want to win the B12 we are going to need help regardless of if we win vs them on Monday or not.

 

how's that, exactly?

we are going to lose 1 or 2 or more games rest of the year.

When you have a chance to win out and win the conference, that's not called "needing help regardless"

realistically: we won't win out. luckily, I doubt KU wins out. Monday is huge

[Peter Nincompoop]

We will lose Saturday, so eff Monday night.  Iowa State owns us right now. 

[kso_FAN]

You sure about that??   I could've sworn we were ranked in '88 when Mitch Richmond scored 35 in Allen to break an insane home court winning streak and they were unranked for sure.

Maybe in the coaches, media guide (AP) says both teams were unranked.

Yeah I would have thought 88 for sure.

We weren't ranked for most of '88 because we looked pretty bad early in the year and had some non-con losses.  They were not properly utilizing the talent of Mitch Richmond, and the offense had to be completely revamped over the Christmas break so that he basically got to touch the ball on every possession from that point on.  So once conference play started they improved a lot and looked like a completely different team.  They were blown out at #12 Purdue by 30 points in December and then end up beating #3 ranked Purdue in the NCAA tournament to advance to the Elite 8.   

Oddly enough, we also played Southern Miss twice in the OOC (home and away) and lost both games.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

You sure about that??   I could've sworn we were ranked in '88 when Mitch Richmond scored 35 in Allen to break an insane home court winning streak and they were unranked for sure.

Maybe in the coaches, media guide (AP) says both teams were unranked.

I trust your research is accurate.  I could've sworn we'd just gotten into the rankings by that point....

Those days are a bit hazy however. 

[KanSt43]

Should be at least a 10 point favorite, imo.

[deputy dawg]

Self has lost this team. Monday could get ugly for KU.

A valid theory.  The treatment of Elijah Johnson came across as really, really harsh, and then, "EJ's my guy".  EJ is a senior, but haven't noticed whether he was a team leader on or off the floor.  If he was either, Massa Seff may have shot himself in the foot and cost himself short- or long-term control of the team. I'm thinking if EJ was a leader on or off the floor, and now Massa Seff is doubling down his bet by describing the team play as the worst in program history.   Wow.

Anyone here know if EJ is looked upon as a leader for our TSC brothers?

[EMAWesome]

Angel, Rodney & Will (srlsy) will each score > 15 on Monday night and KSU will extend KU's losing streak to 4. 

[MakeItRain]

Assuming we both win Saturday, KSU will be ranked higher than KU

i don't think this is true

How so?

We have 4 losses. They have 3.

4 > 3

You may need a refresher course in how rankings work I'd advise you look at this weeks rankings. Of course we'll be higher than Kansas if we win on Saturday, its utter stupidity to think otherwise. It was a historical loss, if KU wins on Saturday they will be ranked around 20.