KU, Weis copying K-State, Snyder

[OregonSmock]

A very good, TSC article from Dennis Dodd:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/21632693/weis-takes-juco-route-to-rebuild-jayhawks-dormant-program

Weis’ optimism is boundless. You have to give him that. Don’t call it a comeback for a man with four Super Bowl rings and two BCS bowls in his past. Call it a throwback. Snyder has used similar tactics for two decades at K-State. The man has become perhaps the best there ever was at procuring and developing juco talent. For Weis, there are worse coaches to imitate.

KU’s coach, then, is all in during his latest reincarnation -- with this recruiting class, with copying Snyder, with his job. If Weis whiffs on a few it could ruin his depth -- and the program. If he hits on most of them, KU is going to be a factor in the Big 12. Soon.

“I have to break through the barrier of us being Kansas,” he said.

Don’t let Bill Self hear that, but part of the statement rings true. KU football is an afterthought here most of the time. Part of the reason Weis took the job was seeing the possibility of that 2008 Orange Bowl, the program’s second BCS-level bowl in 39 years.

“Are they any good?” Weis’wife Maura asked her husband in December 2011 when KU AD Sheahon Zenger made the offer.

“No,” he replied, “That’s why the job is open.”

Weis took the risk. Just don’t call him complacent.

“Why not take a page from [Snyder]?” Weis said. “I told him that. Before the K-State game this year I wanted him to know: Unlike the rest of the Jayhawk fans who would never give kudos related to the Wildcats … I respect what he’s done.”

 

[sonofdaxjones]

'grats Beems.

Something has to be done . . . given the modern era of college athletics with huge coaching salaries, millions in the budgets, and massive revenue, ku is essentially surpassing Futility U type numbers after 4 consecutive FALLS OF FAILURE.

#20straightconferencelosses

[OregonSmock]

'grats Beems.

Something has to be done . . . given the modern era of college athletics with huge coaching salaries, millions in the budgets, and massive revenue, ku is essentially surpassing Futility U type numbers after 4 consecutive FALLS OF FAILURE.

#20straightconferencelosses

This post doesn't seem very TSC.

[sonofdaxjones]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys? 

[OregonSmock]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

[ben ji]

I hope it works beems!

[WillieWatanabe]

should be fun to watch.

[sonofdaxjones]

Agreed, fantastic BBS'ing and TSC'ing ahead, a sleeping giant is awakening folks.

[DQ12]

seems like a smart move.  hope it works (in every game except for one  ) !

[EMAWmeister]

Did we ever find out if Combs qualified? If we can't have him then at least he's in the Sunflower State!!!

 

[jtksu]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

[MadCat]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

Our own personal DreamTeam

[qatzmanchu]

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

Ron had a four ring binder, Charlies got four rings.

I think Weiss is much more of a football savant. Weiss would never have juco gaurd Alasana Alasana going one on one with all SEC Quenton Groves at a key juncture in the game.

[Pett]

Bill has already had the "wildcat" formation stolen from him, carry on beems...

[OregonSmock]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

Didn't that class include Brandon Banks, Daniel Thomas, and Colin Klein?


 

[qatzmanchu]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

Didn't that class include Brandon Banks, Daniel Thomas, and Colin Klein?


 

Welp, sounds like you might get two and a half decent players for your next coach then

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

Didn't that class include Brandon Banks, Daniel Thomas, and Colin Klein?


 

No

[jtksu]

Sorry, but is the Juco route really new for ku, didn't Mangino recruit a number of Juco guys?

Mangino sprinkled in maybe 4-5 jucos per class.   What Weis is doing is pretty new for KU.

Remember when Ronny signed like 20 juco kids in one class?!   That was awesome.

Didn't that class include Brandon Banks, Daniel Thomas, and Colin Klein?


 

It included like every sophomore from NEO.

[PoetWarrior]

LHC Bill Snyder and Charles Weis are distant cousins, by blood, not birth.