Everything about oscar's system is a cancer

[kougar24]

There's lots of weird emerging from unexpected places and I'm losing my gE orientation.

Let me recalibrate your gE compass:

I vote we end all pretenses and just officially name MIR the goEMAW Strawman in Residence, available for use as a culprit-on-demand for any elitaire's argument with himself.

[MakeItRain]

No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.

You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games.  I know you aren't saying that.
(hint you already agreed with my point when you mentioned sitting Angel)

wtf is happening here, this board is weird tonight. I have no idea how you got that or frankly anything worth posting from that post you quoted.

typical obtuse MiR is typical.
Others are criticizing oscar. Anyone with common sense and a modicum of BBIQ knows that oscar botched the last few minutes of the last two games.

Hey weirdo, I didn't say anything positive or negative about oscar in this thread, stop quoting me dumb crap. You need to have this dumbass argument with dax. You idiots are arguing opposite sides of a stupid argument I never took a stance on, to me instead of each other. Seems clear to me that edn is scared of dax.

Seriously what the eff is wrong with some of you people, my god

[ednksu]

No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.

You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games.  I know you aren't saying that.
(hint you already agreed with my point when you mentioned sitting Angel)

wtf is happening here, this board is weird tonight. I have no idea how you got that or frankly anything worth posting from that post you quoted.

typical obtuse MiR is typical.
Others are criticizing oscar. Anyone with common sense and a modicum of BBIQ knows that oscar botched the last few minutes of the last two games.

Hey weirdo, I didn't say anything positive or negative about oscar in this thread, stop quoting me dumb crap. You need to have this dumbass argument with dax. You idiots are arguing opposite sides of a stupid argument I never took a stance on, to me instead of each other. Seems clear to me that edn is scared of dax.

Seriously what the eff is wrong with some of you people, my god

I like it when you try to take any kind of moral high ground in an argument when you're one of the trashiest posters here. 

The fact is I've said oscar is shitty at closing out games.  Dax went all Dax about Frank.  People should just agree that oscar can't close out games.  Also you did criticize oscar in this thread for sitting Angel.  Either way it doesn't really matter.  You're stil butthurt, I move on with life but still enjoy rough ridin' with your butt hurted-ness.

[MakeItRain]

You read me calling you a dumbass, weirdo, idiot, and dumb crap a taking "moral high ground?" Don't use words and phrases you don't understand.

I don't care about what your opinion of oscar is, I haven't addressed it because I don't care what you think. What I said about Angel was to someone else and shouldn't be seen an an endorsement or rebuttal to anything you've said. This should clear this up once and for all, but I'm sure it won't, Imma let you have the last word though, go ahead.

[ChiComCat]

The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.

[MakeItRain]

The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.

Players make plays. Self didn't do much to help B Mac bank in that 3 against ISU. For the most part coaches can really only get in the way in late game situations, IMO.

[ChiComCat]

The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.

Players make plays. Self didn't do much to help B Mac bank in that 3 against ISU. For the most part coaches can really only get in the way in late game situations, IMO.

My example is always Wooly's last year giving the ball to Cartier late in games and hoping he makes a play when that was never who Cartier was.  Lost a ridiculous amount of close games because of Wooly's ineptness.

Huggs (@UT) ran a play where Hoskins drove, then kicked it out to an open Cartier to make a set shot, which is in his wheel house.

Not sure if this applies to Weber/ISU game though, had to gamecast that thing from work :( Players make the plays but the coach can put them in the best position to.  The coaching as far as the banked 3 isn't so much Self, but Hoiberg being a dumbass and not fouling

[kso_FAN]

I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.

We don't know yet honestly. His record so far in close games is decent, but we've lost the last two, so it's fresh. My reality says in both games we screwed up so much during the game (rebounding, missing open shots) that oscar's "close game coaching" wasn't that much of a factor. And both were more lost at the 4-5 minute mark than the last minute. To me the biggest mark on oscar is that this has went from a strong rebounding team to one that is below average right now. I'll lay that one on oscar much more than some forced last minute coaching talking point.

[michigancat]

The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.

No, good coaches win more games by 10+ and lose fewer by 10+ than a Wooldridge.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

:weakheartedcanary:

lol   

[sonofdaxjones]

More shots on boths sides going in, fewer rebounds to obtain.  Leading rebounder graduated.   K-State is the best FG% team in conference play, K-State has played the next 4 top FG% teams, and 4 of the top 5 scoring teams in the Big 12. 




 

[Bill Clarahan]

Is part of their rebounding failures related to conditioning

[ednksu]

Is part of their rebounding failures related to conditioning

disagree entirely.  Our big had KU's sucking wind during the run in the first half.  I've never seen our guys up ready to play while KU's had their hands on their knees sucking air.  oscar's system gives up inside position.

[pissclams]

Is part of their rebounding failures related to conditioning

disagree entirely.  Our big had KU's sucking wind during the run in the first half.  I've never seen our guys up ready to play while KU's had their hands on their knees sucking air.  oscar's system gives up inside position.

oscar system currently has us at 3rd in the conference in rebound margin.

[ednksu]

Is part of their rebounding failures related to conditioning

disagree entirely.  Our big had KU's sucking wind during the run in the first half.  I've never seen our guys up ready to play while KU's had their hands on their knees sucking air.  oscar's system gives up inside position.

oscar system currently has us at 3rd in the conference in rebound margin.

actually second

but please note we are 8th in defensive rebounding, 7th in percentage.  All of our offensive rebounding stats are going to start dropping once we get deeper into conference play if our losses to KU and ISU are any indication of our future.

[pissclams]

why can't our wins be an indication of our future? or when we played well and lost? 

[ednksu]

why can't our wins be an indication of our future? or when we played well and lost?

Can you honestly say that we beat many of our weaker non-cons as thoroughly as we 'should' have?  What worries me is that we weren't seeing this team fail to blow teams out because they were new to oscar's system, instead there were that many flaws in the system which lesser teams couldn't exploit and use to their advantage. 

[pissclams]

but we're 2nd in rebound margin.  i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.

[0.42]

I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.

Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.

[kso_FAN]

I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.

Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.

 

I made the comparison originally myself, but its really dumb (but also easy for K-State fans).

[kougar24]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.

[kso_FAN]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me.

Good.

[ednksu]

but we're 2nd in rebound margin.  i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.

Than deal in reality.  We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding.  You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.

[pissclams]

but we're 2nd in rebound margin.  i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.

Than deal in reality.  We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding.  You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.

hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.

[MadCat]

_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.

Harvey Dent