2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters

[star seed 7]

Everyone shut up.

[kim carnes]

It is staggering how many stupid posters there are on this blog.

apparently the powers that be have decided that some idiots are even beyond pi'ing so they started encouraging them. GREAT IDEA!

Katdaddy is someone's sock, man

[Paul Moscow]

So it's not cause Sams doesn't know the playbook but more that the coaching staff can't trust him to execute it, as in, not defer to himself, hold the ball incorrectly, or whatever the hell the staff deems as risky.

This is my guess. He's in his third year, with the same staff, in the same offense. He gets the playbook, that's not an issue. What he does, which is the double-edge sword, is engage in risky plays that so far have paid off huge, but at some point will not and as risk-averse as Snyder is I can see why he would go with Waters.. Waters=safe bet that doesn't fit our offense. Sams=somewhat risky bet that pays off big. Just my guess.

[star seed 7]

Stop with the racist crap, buttholes.

[06wildcat]

So it's not cause Sams doesn't know the playbook but more that the coaching staff can't trust him to execute it, as in, not defer to himself, hold the ball incorrectly, or whatever the hell the staff deems as risky.

This is my guess. He's in his third year, with the same staff, in the same offense. He gets the playbook, that's not an issue. What he does, which is the double-edge sword, is engage in risky plays that so far have paid off huge, but at some point will not and as risk-averse as Snyder is I can see why he would go with Waters.. Waters=safe bet that doesn't fit our offense. Sams=somewhat risky bet that pays off big. Just my guess.

How is going with the quarterback that turns it over twice as often as scoring touchdowns the safe option? Compared to the quarterback who has yet to turn it over but scored tons of touchdowns?

[steve dave]

So it's not cause Sams doesn't know the playbook but more that the coaching staff can't trust him to execute it, as in, not defer to himself, hold the ball incorrectly, or whatever the hell the staff deems as risky.

This is my guess. He's in his third year, with the same staff, in the same offense. He gets the playbook, that's not an issue. What he does, which is the double-edge sword, is engage in risky plays that so far have paid off huge, but at some point will not and as risk-averse as Snyder is I can see why he would go with Waters.. Waters=safe bet that doesn't fit our offense. Sams=somewhat risky bet that pays off big. Just my guess.

yeah, I can see something in this. sams will definitely have some fumbles and turnovers and other bad stuff. that's not in question. it's pretty amazing that he's done as much awesome stuff to date without having any "bad" stuff happen so far. upside definitely worth it v. the safe bet in d2lossdeliverysystem.com, tho.

[CNS]

Guys, remember when Bish would run backward like a million yards escaping pressure, rather than throwing it away, then would scramble a buttload more before blasting a 50yrd bomb to Darnell and stuff?

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[steve dave]

Guys, remember when Bish would run backward like a million yards escaping pressure, rather than throwing it away, then would scramble a buttload more before blasting a 50yrd bomb to Darnell and stuff?

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yes, I remember that.

[chum1]

Snyder kept talking about consistency.  That could mean that he wants someone he knows will predictibly execute play after play, moving the ball down the field in order to chew up the clock.  He prefers to run the ball, but perhaps it was judged that Waters' passing is a better way to achieve his consistency than Sams' running.

[_33]

Slow and steady passing is much more risky than risky running. 

[deputy dawg]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

[Rams]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

no because our best offensive weapon is sams.

[kim carnes]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

Yeah man, our offense is totally built for waters.  You're right.

[Winters]

I really don't think it's that hard to figure out.

[eastcat]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

no because our best offensive weapon is sams.

Sams is elusive but he runs like an idiot. I would give him 2 games of snaps before he's out for the season. He injured himself playing at WVU in mop up duty last year.

[Asteriskhead]

I really don't think it's that hard to figure out.

[kim carnes]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

no because our best offensive weapon is sams.

Sams is elusive but he runs like an idiot. I would give him 2 games of snaps before he's out for the season. He injured himself playing at WVU in mop up duty last year.

Ok.  But waters sucks at playing quarterback

[eastcat]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

no because our best offensive weapon is sams.

Sams is elusive but he runs like an idiot. I would give him 2 games of snaps before he's out for the season. He injured himself playing at WVU in mop up duty last year.

Ok.  But waters sucks at playing quarterback

He would be a lot better if we had a running back that averaged more than 37yds/game. Teams putting 6DB's on the field are going to make most passing QB's look bad.

[Stat_Cat]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

no because our best offensive weapon is sams.

Sams is elusive but he runs like an idiot. I would give him 2 games of snaps before he's out for the season. He injured himself playing at WVU in mop up duty last year.

Ok.  But waters sucks at playing quarterback

He would be a lot better if we had a running back that averaged more than 37yds/game. Teams putting 6DB's on the field are going to make most passing QB's look bad.

We line up and try to run out of the same formations with Waters, then go shotgun 4 wide and try to pass.  Waters is no threat to run they can focus on Hubert and if Waters does keep it on an option he's so effing slow they can catch him.  If you pull that on Sams and go for the back it's a a huge gain with an epic foot plant every time.

Just look at last weeks game, how many times did we score touchdowns on Waters only drives?  How any turnovers did we have?  0 - 2.  Not counting triple Effin Ts return that gave the ball at the one.  Waters sucks.

[SkinnyBenny]

[MakeItRain]

Is there any logic to suggest that our best offensive weapons are our receivers/tight ends, and that you have to use the QB that will most effectively use those weapons?   If Water is the better and more consistent passer, shouldn't he be running the offense, with Sams brought in to make the best use of the running game?

no because our best offensive weapon is sams.

Sams is elusive but he runs like an idiot. I would give him 2 games of snaps before he's out for the season. He injured himself playing at WVU in mop up duty last year.

Change your goddamned avatar, bruhh!

[SkinnyBenny]

10:41 mark of the 2nd quarter. POWL playing "We Want The Funk" coming back from the timeout and S4ms appears to be bobbing his head to the music. Adorable.

[420seriouscat69]

Waters is rough ridin' awful. Team rough ridin' #Sams

[IPA4Me]

Please let that drive be what we see going forward. Beautiful drive by #life.

[chum1]

Can't say Waters didn't get a fair shake.