Coaching Search / Succession Plan Thread

[Dr Rick Daris]

dimel is a proven failure as a head coach.  snyder has never failed at anything he's tried to accomplish.

i guess the counter to this would be that it doesn't appear like he's ever tried to accomplish anything in his professional career.

[slobber]

Roger and Brooks Barta. That's all I got.

[OK_Cat]

friend of goEMAW holly rowe asked Bill about retiring after this season and he said it's "not in his plans."

bill and holly are bff's, he wouldn't lie to her.

[pissclams]

is there any reason to believe that sean wouldn't do everything exactly like his dad?

[steve dave]

is there any reason to believe that sean wouldn't do everything exactly like his dad?

was there any reason to believe sean sutton or pat knight wouldn't?

[yoga-like_abana]

ISWT

[O-town Kat]

Team Dimel

[OregonSmock]

Afterward, members of K-State’s public relations team chastised me for asking the question.

I mean, come on

Kansas State is a special place, and it’s a little bit of a different place

Is it the Brownback effect?

[Dr Rick Daris]

Afterward, members of K-State’s public relations team chastised me for asking the question.

I mean, come on

Kansas State is a special place, and it’s a little bit of a different place

Is it the Brownback effect?

you'd have to ask sean snyder. it's his quote and i'm not sure even he knows what it means. good to see you btw. who are you cheering for tonight?

[sys]

i guess the counter to this would be that it doesn't appear like he's ever tried to accomplish anything in his professional career.

sounds like he'd be a great game manager.

since he's a st guru, he could also probably promise both o and d coords huge freedoms and powers and get the cream of the crop on both sides.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i guess the counter to this would be that it doesn't appear like he's ever tried to accomplish anything in his professional career.

sounds like he'd be a great game manager.

since he's a st guru, he could also probably promise both o and d coords huge freedoms and powers and get the cream of the crop on both sides.

that sounds great. maybe the three of them could then flip a coin each week to see who was in charge and had the final decision on team related issues.

[sys]

that sounds great. maybe the three of them could then flip a coin each week to see who was in charge and had the final decision on team related issues.

he's a snyder, rick daris.

[pissclams]

is there any reason to believe that sean wouldn't do everything exactly like his dad?

was there any reason to believe sean sutton or pat knight wouldn't?

pat knight did.  also, looks like we're at a standstill!

[Dr Rick Daris]

the fact that he's snyders son is not a negative for me. the fact that he finished playing the position of punter at kstate twenty five years ago, never left and is currently only a second year special teams coach is.

[mocat]

the fact that he's snyders son is not a negative for me. the fact that he finished playing the position of punter at kstate twenty five years ago, never left and is currently only a second year special teams coach is.

ker-BLAM!

[Rage Against the McKee]

i worry about sean because he's never been anywhere but kstate and has never worked for anyone other than his dad. that doesn't exactly scream out that he has aspirations and is driven to be incredibly successful in his endeavors as a head coach at a major university. i worry about his connections and ability to recruit partly because of previously mentioned stuff but also because he has only been a "coach" for two years. how many other coaches does he know? how many clinics has he gone to? how has he networked? i worry that i can't remember a coach ever being promoted from special teams coach to head coach. ever. i worry that i've never heard of a father taking over for a son and being successful. i worry that people that know sean or have worked around him do not scream about how great he is and would be at the job. i'm worried that he would be easy to negative recruit against. i worry that it would be difficult for kstate to fire him if all signs pointed to the fact that he needed to be. he played at kstate. his name is on the stadium. his dad is LHC Bill Snyder. he's very entrenched as a townie at this point in his life.

Great summary. I like Dimel because people ITK say he has basically taken the reigns from Bill on offense/play calling and we've had a couple pretty great years back to back on that side of the ball. I think his play calling fits the parts we have on offense. Whether you think it is a positive or a negative he would keep the staff together for the most part (not you Mo), I see this as a positive because we have something good going right now and I like some of our assistants (first time I've been able to say that under Bill in a long time). He has experience as a HC at multiple places (one good, one sucky). He isn't super old (not really a positive but not a negative).

This sums up why I want Dimel. I think Snyder has assembled a roster that should be pretty great on the offensive side of the ball with his system, so if he were to retire after this system, I would prefer continuity. I think Dimel would continue to run exactly the same offense. Sean would probably try, but he has no experience calling plays. I'm worried that without a lot of continuity, our roster is mostly made up of 5 heart players who other coaches would struggle to plug into a different system. The fanbase will not be patient with the next coach, and if we don't win early, we could be pretty bad for a long time.

[JKEYS]

Sean Snyder would be just as likely to succeed as anyone else KSU could hire. It's a rough ridin' crapshoot at our level, dudes.

Amen to this.

[Ira Hayes]

Holly Rowe ?@sportsiren
Kansas St fans will be glad to know. I asked 73 yr old LHC Bill Snyder any chance this would be his last game "That is not my plan" #FiestaBowl

No reason to talk about this today.

[OK_Cat]

Holly Rowe ?@sportsiren
Kansas St fans will be glad to know. I asked 73 yr old LHC Bill Snyder any chance this would be his last game "That is not my plan" #FiestaBowl

No reason to talk about this today.

oh hey, great scoop, luke hayes

[pissclams]

the fact that he's snyders son is not a negative for me. the fact that he finished playing the position of punter at kstate twenty five years ago, never left and is currently only a second year special teams coach is.

so in short, the fact that he's snyder's son is a positive for you and would make you want to hire him except he hasn't met the rick daris's meter for exceeding in life.

[0.42]

So, Dimel/Sean. Garbage HCIW candidates iyam. Sean's had issues with kickoffs all season and Dimel learned nothing from the Baylor game. Also can't run/implement anything resembling a hurry-up offense.

[bones129]

I like Sean. That said, not Sean as HC. There is a difference.

[sys]

hire anyone that will run one of the no huddle offenses.  we may as well use one until the ncaa finally has the good sense to outlaw them.

[ednksu]

fact 1: Currie will actually try to make a big time hire at K-State
     -Why: People hire ADs for managing football programs at the majority of schools.  If he wants to move, he has to make a good hire
     -What is different: He CANNOT oscar a football hire.  He knows that people care just enough about football that he can't hire any ole dumbass. Instead he mushed our      fan base with oscar because he knew tucks would love it, and would string us along until we forgot about basketball again as a fan base. 

fact 2: Sean Snyder cannot be our head coach if we want to succeed.  You're an idiot if you think its a crap shoot.  How many quality assistants have moved on from this coaching tree to become good head coaches?  NO ONE regards Sean as a quality assistant
     -See the repeated FAILURES on special team just in tonight in the Fiesta Bowl.  Absolutely horrid.  If he can't manage the special teams unit, how is he going to manage the entire program.

[eastcat]

Holly Rowe ?@sportsiren
Kansas St fans will be glad to know. I asked 73 yr old LHC Bill Snyder any chance this would be his last game "That is not my plan" #FiestaBowl

No reason to talk about this today.

Snyder has a plan!?!