Fiesta Bowl/Oregon FB Discussion

[420seriouscat69]

"We gonna win!"

[kstate4life]

So what do we get if we win? Besides the huge ass trophy.

[SabiNation]

Free Tostitos for life, I'm guessing   

[AppleJack]

_Fan, do we have as huge of an advantage on special teams as it would seem to the naked eye?

[GoDucks349]

Still early in the 1st half of the Stanford game, but Oregon threw a lot against Stanford. Not quite as dramatic of a game, but reminded me of our Baylor game a bit. And seeing the Baylor "highlights" as the game goes along is very .

The reason Oregon threw so much was because Stanford designed recruiting defensive players around stopping the Oregon spread and the front 7 had the size strength speed and stamina to stop the Oregon running game. Which means Oregon throws the ball. Mariota just had a really bad game throwing the ball. If he'd had an "average" passing day, Oregon wins. But Stanford won and deserve the credit for the win, they played well.

[steve dave]

That was the best Mariola can play fwiw. I've watched him since Jr. High and he just sucks at throwing. Sorry.

[GoDucks349]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

[kso_FAN]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

[SabiNation]

granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan.

Let's be honest though, they might as well rename Glendale "Manhattan West" 

[GoDucks349]

That was the best Mariola can play fwiw. I've watched him since Jr. High and he just sucks at throwing. Sorry.

Really? I believe he completed over 70% of his passes in all but three games. Against Stanford he completed only 56%. Also, I'd love to see what stats you have for him from junior high and high school. I thought he really didn't start at QB till his senior season in HS.

Plus I certainly know that what a kid does in Junior High isn't exactly relevant. I know I didn't make varsity in bball, yet I did end up starting as a freshman at a small college. Point is lots change and no I'm not a great athlete.

[GoDucks349]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

I think too much is said about how many plays get run, time of possession, etc. I do not expect K State to be surprised at all by the pace of the Oregon offense. K State has an excellent defense and will be a great challenge. K State doesn't make mistakes and Oregon thrives on opponents mistakes, so I think this is a close game. What I am curious about is how K State handle Barner, Thomas, Mariota, and Lyerla carrying the ball. Remember Seastrunk was sitting #3 on the depth charts behind Barner and Thomas before he left.

[420seriouscat69]

That was the best Mariola can play fwiw. I've watched him since Jr. High and he just sucks at throwing. Sorry.

Really? I believe he completed over 70% of his passes in all but three games. Against Stanford he completed only 56%. Also, I'd love to see what stats you have for him from junior high and high school. I thought he really didn't start at QB till his senior season in HS.

Plus I certainly know that what a kid does in Junior High isn't exactly relevant. I know I didn't make varsity in bball, yet I did end up starting as a freshman at a small college. Point is lots change and no I'm not a great athlete.

#fanningbrag

[GoodForAnother]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

I think too much is said about how many plays get run, time of possession, etc. I do not expect K State to be surprised at all by the pace of the Oregon offense. K State has an excellent defense and will be a great challenge. K State doesn't make mistakes and Oregon thrives on opponents mistakes, so I think this is a close game. What I am curious about is how K State handle Barner, Thomas, Mariota, and Lyerla carrying the ball. Remember Seastrunk was sitting #3 on the depth charts behind Barner and Thomas before he left.

I imagine we'll probably try and tackle them before they get too many yards

[GoDucks349]

That was the best Mariola can play fwiw. I've watched him since Jr. High and he just sucks at throwing. Sorry.

Really? I believe he completed over 70% of his passes in all but three games. Against Stanford he completed only 56%. Also, I'd love to see what stats you have for him from junior high and high school. I thought he really didn't start at QB till his senior season in HS.

Plus I certainly know that what a kid does in Junior High isn't exactly relevant. I know I didn't make varsity in bball, yet I did end up starting as a freshman at a small college. Point is lots change and no I'm not a great athlete.

#fanningbrag

Wasn't trying to brag, just illustrate a point that is common for kids going from junior high to college and how much they change, mature, grow etc. Sorry you felt it was bragging.

[steve dave]

his nickname in 8th grade was smell'iola. 'nuff said.

[eastcat]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

I think too much is said about how many plays get run, time of possession, etc. I do not expect K State to be surprised at all by the pace of the Oregon offense. K State has an excellent defense and will be a great challenge. K State doesn't make mistakes and Oregon thrives on opponents mistakes, so I think this is a close game. What I am curious about is how K State handle Barner, Thomas, Mariota, and Lyerla carrying the ball. Remember Seastrunk was sitting #3 on the depth charts behind Barner and Thomas before he left.

I imagine we'll probably try and tackle them before they get too many yards

Solid gameplan 

GoDucks, at what point do the real Oregon fans normally show up? Are you the scout squad?

[420seriouscat69]

That was the best Mariola can play fwiw. I've watched him since Jr. High and he just sucks at throwing. Sorry.

Really? I believe he completed over 70% of his passes in all but three games. Against Stanford he completed only 56%. Also, I'd love to see what stats you have for him from junior high and high school. I thought he really didn't start at QB till his senior season in HS.

Plus I certainly know that what a kid does in Junior High isn't exactly relevant. I know I didn't make varsity in bball, yet I did end up starting as a freshman at a small college. Point is lots change and no I'm not a great athlete.

#fanningbrag

Wasn't trying to brag, just illustrate a point that is common for kids going from junior high to college and how much they change, mature, grow etc. Sorry you felt it was bragging.

It's ok. I do it all the time. 

[Dugout DickStone]

his nickname in 8th grade was smell'iola. 'nuff said.

Are you going for "'nuff said" now?

[GoDucks349]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

I think too much is said about how many plays get run, time of possession, etc. I do not expect K State to be surprised at all by the pace of the Oregon offense. K State has an excellent defense and will be a great challenge. K State doesn't make mistakes and Oregon thrives on opponents mistakes, so I think this is a close game. What I am curious about is how K State handle Barner, Thomas, Mariota, and Lyerla carrying the ball. Remember Seastrunk was sitting #3 on the depth charts behind Barner and Thomas before he left.

I imagine we'll probably try and tackle them before they get too many yards

Solid gameplan 

GoDucks, at what point do the real Oregon fans normally show up? Are you the scout squad?

LOL I've only been a Duck fan since 1969......

Back to fball, I'd expect the Oregon defense to stuff the K State running game forcing K State to move the ball through the air. Question is can Oregon contain K States passing game.

[Cire]

Oregon is going to Piss pound us, old balls is terrible in bowl games guys

[eastcat]

Oregon is going to Piss pound us, old balls is terrible in bowl games guys

Kim Carnes post.

[lopakman]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

I think too much is said about how many plays get run, time of possession, etc. I do not expect K State to be surprised at all by the pace of the Oregon offense. K State has an excellent defense and will be a great challenge. K State doesn't make mistakes and Oregon thrives on opponents mistakes, so I think this is a close game. What I am curious about is how K State handle Barner, Thomas, Mariota, and Lyerla carrying the ball. Remember Seastrunk was sitting #3 on the depth charts behind Barner and Thomas before he left.

I imagine we'll probably try and tackle them before they get too many yards

Solid gameplan 

GoDucks, at what point do the real Oregon fans normally show up? Are you the scout squad?

LOL I've only been a Duck fan since 1969......

Back to fball, I'd expect the Oregon defense to stuff the K State running game forcing K State to move the ball through the air. Question is can Oregon contain K States passing game.

GoDucks, I feel like I have to respond to your post since I used to nail an Oregon grad on a fairly regular basis.  She was a huge Duck fan and through our trysts I can confirm that Oregon will neither stuff the run or contain the passing game.  Trust me, I have "inside her" information.

[kitten_mittons]

I think the first quarter will tell a lot about how this game ends. My impression is that K State starts slow on offense. That's not a good thing to do against the Ducks. If K State starts slow and Oregon gets rolling on offense, it's game over. It's just not wise to get behind the Ducks as it gives both the offense and defense a lot more good choices in schemes.

If K State starts slow offensively and doesn't let Oregon get started, it should be a tight game. I'm not to worried about it if Oregon gets behind early, because they can score quickly and don't panic. They could be down 21 in the fourth and still be in the game with a good chance to win.

Lets have a great game with no injuries and may the best team win.

I agree that how the teams start will make a big difference. K-State showed that they they could overcome somewhat slow starts against fast paced, explosive offenses against Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, granted neither team is as talented as Oregon and both games were in Manhattan. The Baylor game was where K-State really got off course and panicked. K-State can't let that happen again.

As far as pace goes, K-State won't be surprised by how fast Oregon plays. 5 Big 12 teams averaged over 76 plays per game and 6 ran plays every 24 seconds of total possession or less. The average number of plays on offense for the Big 12 was 73.9 per game and teams ran plays 24.3 seconds of possession on average. The Pac 12 averages were 73 plays per game and average a play ran ever 24.5 seconds of possession. Overall K-State handled that well, only Baylor and KU reached 80 offensive plays against them. The KU game was skewed because K-State averaged nearly 10 yards per snapped, so possession wasn't as high as normal.

I think too much is said about how many plays get run, time of possession, etc. I do not expect K State to be surprised at all by the pace of the Oregon offense. K State has an excellent defense and will be a great challenge. K State doesn't make mistakes and Oregon thrives on opponents mistakes, so I think this is a close game. What I am curious about is how K State handle Barner, Thomas, Mariota, and Lyerla carrying the ball. Remember Seastrunk was sitting #3 on the depth charts behind Barner and Thomas before he left.

I imagine we'll probably try and tackle them before they get too many yards

Solid gameplan 

GoDucks, at what point do the real Oregon fans normally show up? Are you the scout squad?

LOL I've only been a Duck fan since 1969......

Back to fball, I'd expect the Oregon defense to stuff the K State running game forcing K State to move the ball through the air. Question is can Oregon contain K States passing game.

Oh, you are just on the wrong ksu site. If any of your grandchildren/great grandchildren are Oregon fans, please direct them here.

[kso_FAN]

Back to fball, I'd expect the Oregon defense to stuff the K State running game forcing K State to move the ball through the air. Question is can Oregon contain K States passing game.

I think your defense is solid... but I see nothing that says your defense will "stuff" the K-State running game.

[eastcat]

Back to fball, I'd expect the Oregon defense to stuff the K State running game forcing K State to move the ball through the air. Question is can Oregon contain K States passing game.

I think your defense is solid... but I see nothing that says your defense will "stuff" the K-State running game.

They will put 9 people in the box just like every other team we have played the last 3 years.

Clearly a recipe for success wouldn't you say?