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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2012, 08:49:25 PM »
I understood completely what mich meant.

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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2012, 09:12:00 PM »
I don't think Nino is as bad as Chris Merrieweather. I'd say he's about 2/3 Ojeleye, 1/3 Jamar Samuels. Most of Samuels' third is due to his adorableness, though.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2013, 02:18:53 PM »
Nino is great, losers

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2013, 02:22:54 PM »
Nino is great, losers

Agreed. A lot of lbbiq and kenpom calculator sniffers outed in this thread.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2013, 02:46:44 PM »
he's not hustley at all.  what a weird label for him to have randomly been stuck with.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2013, 02:47:48 PM »
he's not hustley at all.  what a weird label for him to have randomly been stuck with.

Put-backs = Hustle, not random at all.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2013, 02:50:29 PM »
put backs does not = hustle.  he gets put backs because he's strong as eff, likes to shoot and doesn't have plays run for him.  hustle is doing things he doesn't like to do.  like defend and set picks.  things he refuses to do.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2013, 02:53:20 PM »
put backs does not = hustle.  he gets put backs because he's strong as eff, likes to shoot and doesn't have plays run for him.  hustle is doing things he doesn't like to do.  like defend and set picks.  things he refuses to do.

He sets like 3 picks on every offensive possession?  And put backs most definitely = hustle.  Especially on fast breaks.

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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2013, 02:54:38 PM »
put backs does not = hustle.  he gets put backs because he's strong as eff, likes to shoot and doesn't have plays run for him.  hustle is doing things he doesn't like to do.  like defend and set picks.  things he refuses to do.

I'll give you not good at setting picks. I stand by my defense of Nino otherwise.

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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2013, 02:55:34 PM »
jogging over to near a guy, then letting him slip past you on your jogged cut is not a pick.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2013, 02:56:26 PM »
Weird melt down over a good Nino game.

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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2013, 02:57:33 PM »
Weird melt down over a good Nino game.

i don't think you know what a melt down is.
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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2013, 02:58:22 PM »
Yeah, he is incomplete, but does a lot well. He was overall good today.

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2013, 02:59:00 PM »
I stand by my defense of Nino otherwise.

i think he's a decent player with a useful skillset.  i don't think he plays with more effort than the average player.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2013, 02:59:44 PM »
he gets really low when he guards the low post. Like he almost gets horizontal. very weird.

I like Nino though.
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2013, 03:00:30 PM »
I stand by my defense of Nino otherwise.

i think he's a decent player with a useful skillset.  i don't think he plays with more effort than the average player.

I agree, I think he's a better athlete than he gets credit for.

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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2013, 03:03:49 PM »
I think he's a better athlete than he gets credit for.

yes, but i don't understand why the idea ever developed that he wasn't a good athlete.  because he didn't play much his first 2 years, i guess?  dunno.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2013, 03:13:44 PM »
nino's value is based on the other team's skill set, not nino's, imo.  which i think is the case for most undersized 4's. 

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2013, 03:34:25 PM »
Nino is good for this team.  He doesnt force a lot of shots.  His 15 foot shot is a good shot for him.  Last year seemed like wanted to huck up 3s a lot.   He does get good position and rebound pretty well on offense end. 

His defense especially interior defense is not real good...  that is his #1 weakness IMO

I like Shane and Nino getting a lot of the minutes at the 4 spot.  Today they played all 40 at that spot.   Now we dont need to do that every game.  Some games we are gonna have to play 2 bigs on the court at the same time.   I would be cool if Shane/Nino played 30 of the 40 minutes at the 4 (giving 10 minutes a game to a big at the 4) and then we could always have Shane play a few minutes for Rod if he doesnt want Omari to play

Shane/Nino = 32-35 minutes combined seems about right to me

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2013, 03:35:25 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2013, 03:41:06 PM »
Nino is good for this team.  He doesnt force a lot of shots.  His 15 foot shot is a good shot for him.  Last year seemed like wanted to huck up 3s a lot.   He does get good position and rebound pretty well on offense end. 

His defense especially interior defense is not real good...  that is his #1 weakness IMO

I like Shane and Nino getting a lot of the minutes at the 4 spot.  Today they played all 40 at that spot.   Now we dont need to do that every game.  Some games we are gonna have to play 2 bigs on the court at the same time.   I would be cool if Shane/Nino played 30 of the 40 minutes at the 4 (giving 10 minutes a game to a big at the 4) and then we could always have Shane play a few minutes for Rod if he doesnt want Omari to play

Shane/Nino = 32-35 minutes combined seems about right to me

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2013, 04:17:00 PM »
I love how oscar has made screen setting the most difficult rough ridin' concept imaginable.

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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2013, 04:20:24 PM »
I love how oscar has made screen setting the most difficult rough ridin' concept imaginable.

In post game he talked about how they've been having 2 a day practices during break, and one of those is a 30 minute session of just screening and cutting and different reads and options they are trying to teach for both the screener and cutter. Said it helped a bunch for getting Rod open in the 2nd half.

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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2013, 04:21:51 PM »
I love how oscar has made screen setting the most difficult rough ridin' concept imaginable.

In post game he talked about how they've been having 2 a day practices during break, and one of those is a 30 minute session of just screening and cutting and different reads and options they are trying to teach for both the screener and cutter. Said it helped a bunch for getting Rod open in the 2nd half.

Also helped Nino get one of the most LOL illegal screens I've ever seen in organized basketball.

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« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2013, 04:27:51 PM »
I love how oscar has made screen setting the most difficult rough ridin' concept imaginable.

In post game he talked about how they've been having 2 a day practices during break, and one of those is a 30 minute session of just screening and cutting and different reads and options they are trying to teach for both the screener and cutter. Said it helped a bunch for getting Rod open in the 2nd half.

Also helped Nino get one of the most LOL illegal screens I've ever seen in organized basketball.

And it probably wasn't his most LOL illegal screen this year. There are numerous in the running.