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Nino lessons
« on: December 30, 2012, 12:01:57 PM »
I need help understanding Nino. My bbiq is somewhat low and I'm having trouble deciphering if he's a peggy po or nancy neg to the team.

-He hustles his ass off
-He has a knack for getting in rebound position

-His shot is absurdly ugly
-Can't guard very well downlow
-Foul trouble a lot

Is he the best we have right now?


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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 12:07:21 PM »
oscar must love the hustle.  :dunno:

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 12:13:58 PM »
oscar must love the hustle.  :dunno:

I kinda do too. Nino looks like a player for the most part.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 12:15:46 PM »
I need help understanding Nino. My bbiq is somewhat low and I'm having trouble deciphering if he's a peggy po or nancy neg to the team.

-He hustles his ass off
-He has a knack for getting in rebound position

-His shot is absurdly ugly
-Can't guard very well downlow
-Foul trouble a lot

Is he the best we have right now?

I have to think oscar likes his energy/effort and that he seems to be fully on board with oscar's system. He has an ability to hit the little 15 footer that this offense generates from the short corner area and both his off and def rebounding rates are impressive considering his size.

oscar has to know against bigger teams JO has to play, but he's also shown he's very willing to go with his smaller lineups.

All that said, it seems to me that Gip is the big that oscar really trusts the most right now.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 12:21:19 PM »
just spitballing here:

Angel
Macgrudes
Nino
Gip
JHR

Is that a good lineup? Doesn't seem like a lot of ballhandling capabilities, but that's a crap ton of rebounders and defenders. If McObs could dribble better, he'd be all-american.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 12:30:11 PM »
just spitballing here:

Angel
Macgrudes
Nino
Gip
JHR

Is that a good lineup? Doesn't seem like a lot of ballhandling capabilities, but that's a crap ton of rebounders and defenders. If McObs could dribble better, he'd be all-american.

McGruds and Nino would be out of position.

This team is going to be at its best with Angel/Will/McGruds on the perimeter. Mix in Tay and occasionally Shane out there.

Then rotate Gip, Nino, JO and occasionally Shane at the post spots.

Those 8 have to be the main guys; throw Omari, DJamer, and Diaz out there when necessary. In by far our best game against FL that was the rotation and its our best group. JMHO.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 12:47:25 PM »
Would Josh Gray have gotten minutes last night?

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 01:34:46 PM »
Nino is hybrid Energy. Energy was pure d and hussle.  Nino is partially d and partially o but is full hussle.  And yeah he must be fully bought in.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 03:19:44 PM »
Looks to me like oscar desperately wants to have multiple offensive weapons on the floor, or at least several guys that can hit the broad side of a barn, which is ironic because these lineups don't shoot very well either.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 11:59:58 PM »
Has Justin Williams used up all his eligibility? Can confirm David Hoskins has taken medical redshirt for entire 2012-2013 season.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2012, 04:18:06 AM »
Nino is mostly a complete detriment because oscar continues to insist in playing him out of position at the four.  The problem is he's too undersized to play the post, is not crafty or capable of finishing at the rim against bigger defenders, and constantly out of position rebounding.  He's basically David Hoskins but totally horrible at doing everything David Hoskins did well.

His offensive game essentially consists of a 10 foot baseline jumper.  On an NCAA caliber team, he should be coming off the bench in spells at the three and overall used very sparingly.
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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2012, 07:33:45 AM »
"He tries"

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2012, 08:18:00 AM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 10:41:37 AM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

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Re: Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 10:55:36 AM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2012, 10:59:32 AM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

You too?  Effort isn't enough.  I mean Shane is the laziest player we have, not very skilled and he is better than Nino.  That is a pretty damning indictment.

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2012, 11:05:10 AM »
All coaches value an effort guy, especially when there isn't a replacement that is that much more talented to play over the effort guy. I think that's the case with Williams, and at this point I haven't seen where he's been some massive liability compared to other guys either.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2012, 11:08:50 AM »
All coaches value an effort guy, especially when there isn't a replacement that is that much more talented to play over the effort guy. I think that's the case with Williams, and at this point I haven't seen where he's been some massive liability compared to other guys either.

I "get," on a certain level, why oscar likes him.  But why do people that pay to watch like him?  I know it isn't like Cartier is getting benched or something, but it is significant.  You think DJamer/Shane don't bring more?  This is of course already arguing on oscar's terms because there is no argument that Jo should get more of his minutes.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2012, 11:23:44 AM »
I like nino

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2012, 11:33:11 AM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

You too?  Effort isn't enough.  I mean Shane is the laziest player we have, not very skilled and he is better than Nino.  That is a pretty damning indictment.

I don't think Shane is better than Nino at what they are asked to do.

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2012, 04:41:03 PM »
I like nino

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Re: Nino lessons
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2012, 06:50:42 PM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

You too?  Effort isn't enough.  I mean Shane is the laziest player we have, not very skilled and he is better than Nino.  That is a pretty damning indictment.

I don't think Shane is better than Nino at what they are asked to do.

Kind of hard to disagree right now, but your qualifier is so dumb I will.

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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2012, 06:54:58 PM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

You too?  Effort isn't enough.  I mean Shane is the laziest player we have, not very skilled and he is better than Nino.  That is a pretty damning indictment.

I don't think Shane is better than Nino at what they are asked to do.

Kind of hard to disagree right now, but your qualifier is so dumb I will.

OK. To be fair, I don't really pay attention any more.

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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2012, 07:18:02 PM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

You too?  Effort isn't enough.  I mean Shane is the laziest player we have, not very skilled and he is better than Nino.  That is a pretty damning indictment.

I don't think Shane is better than Nino at what they are asked to do.

Kind of hard to disagree right now, but your qualifier is so dumb I will.

OK. To be fair, I don't really pay attention any more.

Who is better at "doing what they are asked to do":  Omari or Justin Williams?

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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2012, 07:21:50 PM »
"He tries"

-head coach bob huggins

Yea, code for shitty

Not even really code.  Just a coach cliche.

I think Nino tries harder than most on the team, which is more than you can say about other shitty players.

You too?  Effort isn't enough.  I mean Shane is the laziest player we have, not very skilled and he is better than Nino.  That is a pretty damning indictment.

I don't think Shane is better than Nino at what they are asked to do.

Kind of hard to disagree right now, but your qualifier is so dumb I will.

OK. To be fair, I don't really pay attention any more.

Who is better at "doing what they are asked to do":  Omari or Justin Williams?

Justin Williams, by far.