Another school shooting

[Rage Against the McKee]

If life begins at conception, does that mean a woman who is impregnated in September (meaning the baby won't be born until the next year) gets to claim the unborn fetus as a dependent on her tax return?  Is she also eligible for all the other deductions that a child allows?  If she is single, can she file for and receive WIC benefits before the baby is born?  Is she allowed to drive in the carpool lane by herself since there are technically two people in the vehicle?

This is where Euro law is superior because they look at the intent of the law and not the literal meanings.

Some judges do that here, too.

[Emo EMAW]

Fantastic. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If life begins at conception, does that mean a woman who is impregnated in September (meaning the baby won't be born until the next year) gets to claim the unborn fetus as a dependent on her tax return?  Is she also eligible for all the other deductions that a child allows?  If she is single, can she file for and receive WIC benefits before the baby is born?  Is she allowed to drive in the carpool lane by herself since there are technically two people in the vehicle?

Certainly pregnant women can get special benefits for unborn children, and there is also a federal law that protects unborn children against violent crimes.

[HeinBallz]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If life begins at conception, does that mean a woman who is impregnated in September (meaning the baby won't be born until the next year) gets to claim the unborn fetus as a dependent on her tax return?  Is she also eligible for all the other deductions that a child allows?  If she is single, can she file for and receive WIC benefits before the baby is born?  Is she allowed to drive in the carpool lane by herself since there are technically two people in the vehicle?

This is pretty well covered in the tax code.

However, in the tort arena many a leftist personal inury attorney has advocated that life begins at gestation.  I believe this has been adopted as law in some states.

[star seed 7]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

fishing lures seem slightly different than bullets.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

fishing lures seem slightly different than bullets.

You seem like quite the outdoorsman.

[star seed 7]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

fishing lures seem slightly different than bullets.

You seem like quite the outdoorsman.

i'm not actually!   

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

fishing lures seem slightly different than bullets.

You seem like quite the outdoorsman.

i'm not actually!   

lol

[DQ12]

again, just because an activity is easy and inconspicuous doesn't mean it should be legal.  tons of easy and inconspicuous activities are illegal.

[sys]

just because an activity is easy, harmless and inconspicuous doesn't mean it should be legal.

ok, fascistlew.

[DQ12]

just because an activity is easy, harmless and inconspicuous doesn't mean it should be legal.

ok, fascistlew.

Bullets aren't harmless, you crazy guy.

[felix rex]

I can't imagine the turn you took in life that lead you to molding your own fishing lures.

[sys]

Bullets aren't harmless, you crazy guy.

buying them is harmless.  making them is harmless.  i bet you're thinking of shooting them at other people, which i believe should not be legal.  fortunately, that activity is pretty conspicuous, and really isn't that easy either.

[ednksu]

So the NRA wants armed guards in well, everywhere /need freedom, can't live in a police state

[Emo EMAW]

sys completely owning dlew in this thread.

[HeinBallz]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

fishing lures seem slightly different than bullets.

And your point is?  This solution being argued would affect nearly every gun owner but could only hope to impact an extremely small percentage of psychopaths.  By definition, a psychopath is capable/willing/motivated and usually intelligent enough to do something "mildly inconvenient" or even something "really really hard" to accomplish something.

I know, I know.  [bleeding heart] we have to do something! [bleeding heart]

Sometimes stopping insanity is something. Much of the gun legislation already on the books - as well as the newly proposed legislation - qualifies for insanity.

[HeinBallz]

  tons of easy and inconspicuous activities are illegal.

And how's that working out?

[ben ji]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

I lurk on a fishing board from time to time and every year they have a big gathering similar to fatty fest...except they call it the lead pour and they melt lead and mold it into sinkers and other fishing weights...

[steve dave]

Who the eff is effortlessly molding lead in their basement?

I can give you the names of three different rednecks in butler county alone that have been making their own fishing lures for years.  Making a mold and melting a metal with a super low melting point isn't rocket science.

I lurk on a fishing board from time to time and every year they have a big gathering similar to fatty fest...except they call it the lead pour and they melt lead and mold it into sinkers and other fishing weights...

similar? more like exactly the same as fatty fest

[Institutional Control]

When is fatty fest? I want to go.

[steve dave]

When is fatty fest? I want to go.

June sometime. Trim should make his trimphant return to the board someday and fill in the details.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

When is fatty fest? I want to go.

June sometime. Trim should make his trimphant return to the board someday and fill in the details.

I've heard some deets and it sounds like it's going to be a great time friends!   

[Stevesie60]

When is fatty fest? I want to go.

June sometime. Trim should make his trimphant return to the board someday and fill in the details.

[DQ12]

Bullets aren't harmless, you crazy guy.

buying them is harmless.  making them is harmless.  i bet you're thinking of shooting them at other people, which i believe should not be legal.  fortunately, that activity is pretty conspicuous, and really isn't that easy either.

I think this is getting into semantics.  If you think that bullets, by their nature, "are harmless," i would imagine that your definition of "harmless" includes far more things than most others' would - which is okay, but important to recognize that you're opinion probably isn't widely held.  That's why regulations on bullets exist.

I understand your point of view and I recognize that it's consistent and rational, but our state operates functionally different than the one for which you're advocating.  The fact is, our laws prohibit certain activities, that in and of themselves, do no harm to others, are easy to do, and are inconspicuous.  Given your argument, I'd imagine you think that those activities (like the possession of heroin, for example) should be legal, but they're not.   

Also, we, as a country, have decided that ammunition, specifically, isn't harmless.  That's why we regulate it.