Another school shooting

[steve dave]

Yeah, mentally handicapped people are one of the classes of people that shouldn't have guns, along with 99% of all other people.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Yeah, mentally handicapped people are one of the classes of people that shouldn't have guns, along with 99% of all other people.

Agreed, and appendages.

[steve dave]

Just guns, appendages serve a useful purpose

[Dugout DickStone]

Oh man, the Predator drone argument is one I didn't expect.  Classic

[DQ12]

Wondering what the groups thoughts are on removing all MH folks from society and institutionalizing and/or executing them? ...

I'd be against that, i think.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

A gun is one of many things people can use, other than for its intended purpose, to harm people.  The premise that a guns sole purpose is to kill people is intellectually dishonest.

Who the eff are any of you to decide what someone "needs"?  A persons right to protect himself is the most fundamental component to liberty and a free people. 

[steve dave]

You don't need a gun FSD

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Hey Doris, the Nazis are coming to kill us.  Get the gun.

Clyde, guns were outlawed after that psychopathic Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) killed all those innocent school children.

crap! Well how did the Nazis get there guns? Don't they know the rules?

Damnit, I knew we should have uninvented guns instead of banning them.  Oh well, as a law abiding citizen, I felt society was better off if I forfeited my rights and the rights of millions to immaterially reduce the chance that another psychotard would kill kids again.  It was the rationale thing to do.

[Dugout DickStone]

A nazi invasion?  Gtfo of this thread

[steve dave]

You don't need that right anymore. People have proven they can't handle or control it properly and it no longer serves a purpose outside of making those with no power feel powerful which should be found somewhere else anyway.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

You don't need a gun FSD

You don't need Internet or a house or a car.

[nicname]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/time-to-talk-about-gun-control/2012/12/14/c8b29a46-4624-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html

http://www.montrosepress.com/opinion/letters/fix-the-second-amendment-now/article_9e09d7c8-459d-11e2-975e-0019bb2963f4.html

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/12/what-obama-must-do-about-guns.html#ixzz2F4e0gGqJ

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/opinion/martin-gun-control/?hpt=hp_bn7

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/14/if-todays-shooting-wont-prompt-action-then-nothing-will/

Gun bans, reform, etc. is going to be pushed hard.  Citizens will become more divided.  This sucks for all of us.


The machine is already churning.

the citizens aren't going to be more divided, everyone has an opinion on this matter and yesterday didn't change that for many.  Fact is that most Americans favor restricting the manufacture, sale, and ownership of firearms.

Divide and Conquer.

"The Pew Research Center has been tracking attitudes about gun control for nearly 20 years. Our question asks whether it is more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns, or to control gun ownership.

Our most recent survey on the issue, conducted July 26-29, 2012, shortly after a gunman killed 12 people at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, found that 47% said it was more important to control gun ownership, while 46% said it was more important to protect the rights of Americans to own guns. Opinions were largely unchanged from April 2012, when 45% prioritized gun control and 49% gun rights."

"The partisan gap in attitudes about gun control has widened considerably in recent years. In July, following the shootings in Colorado, 71% of Republicans said it was more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns while just 26% said it was more important to control gun ownership. Among Democrats, opinion was roughly the reverse: 72% said it was more important to control gun ownership while 21% prioritized gun rights. Independents were divided:50% said it was more important to protect gun rights; 43% said gun control was more important.

In 1993, fewer than half of Republicans (45%) prioritized gun rights over gun control. Democrats’ views over the past two decades, by contrast, have changed very little. In 1993, just 25% said protecting gun rights was more important than gun control. (For more on changing views about gun control among partisan and demographic groups, see “More Support for Gun Rights, Gay Marriage than in 2008, 2004,” April 25, 2012.)"

[ChiComCat]

A gun is one of many things people can use, other than for its intended purpose, to harm people.  The premise that a guns sole purpose is to kill people is intellectually dishonest.

Who the eff are any of you to decide what someone "needs"?  A persons right to protect himself is the most fundamental component to liberty and a free people. 

If you think a gun is the most important component to liberty and a free people you have mumped up values and are paranoid.

[steve dave]

You don't need a gun FSD

You don't need Internet or a house or a car.

Those all serve a useful purpose. Guns do not. Even you know that argument is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

You don't need that right anymore. People have proven they can't handle or control it properly and it no longer serves a purpose outside of making those with no power feel powerful which should be found somewhere else anyway.

You don't need that right anymore. . .

Holy crap

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

A gun is one of many things people can use, other than for its intended purpose, to harm people.  The premise that a guns sole purpose is to kill people is intellectually dishonest.

Who the eff are any of you to decide what someone "needs"?  A persons right to protect himself is the most fundamental component to liberty and a free people. 

If you think a gun is the most important component to liberty and a free people you have mumped up values and are paranoid.

You're a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) if you think that's what I said.

[ChiComCat]

If that isn't what you said then your point is irrelevant since people can protect themselves without guns.  I feel like the addition of FSD is going to really get this thread pit worthy.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

You don't need a gun FSD

You don't need Internet or a house or a car.

Those all serve a useful purpose. Guns do not. Even you know that argument is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Not if used for malintent. Internet caused that gay kid to jump off a bridge. John Robinson used his house to dale and torture 20+ women, drunks kill thousands of people a year with there cars.

A gun, sitting on a table can't hurt anyone. A person has to pick it up, point it at someone and shoot it to harm.

Alcohol has no usefulnpurpose and cause far more death than guns. Bring back prohibition you nuts.

[doom]

You don't need a gun FSD

You don't need Internet or a house or a car.

Those all serve a useful purpose. Guns do not. Even you know that argument is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Not if used for malintent. Internet caused that gay kid to jump off a bridge. John Robinson used his house to dale and torture 20+ women, drunks kill thousands of people a year with there cars.

A gun, sitting on a table can't hurt anyone. A person has to pick it up, point it at someone and shoot it to harm.

Alcohol has no usefulnpurpose and cause far more death than guns. Bring back prohibition you nuts.

I don't even agree with SD, but that is a weak argument.  Alcohol doesn't drink itself.

[EMAWmeister]

I guess I just don't know what the useful purpose of a gun is. More specifically, I don't know what the useful purpose of a gun that causes "instantaneous death" (well said, whoever it was) is.

[nicname]

Who should have guns?

[DQ12]

Who should have guns?

Police men.  The military. 

[doom]

I guess I just don't know what the useful purpose of a gun is. More specifically, I don't know what the useful purpose of a gun that causes "instantaneous death" (well said, whoever it was) is.

I think with there being about 90 guns for every 100 citizens, the useful purpose of a gun is to provide safety from everybody else.   

Who should have guns?

Police men.  The military. 

Because those guys never lose it.

[steve dave]

Police men.  The military. 

Because those guys never lose it.

no, they do. but they are the only people that can actually utilize guns for a beneficial purpose. you have to weigh the benefit to society and make the choice that provides the greatest benefit and least detriment.

[Dugout DickStone]

Who should have guns?

Police men.  The military.

Angry, powerless little people who want to feel powerful.