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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6975 on: June 04, 2022, 11:30:19 AM »

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6976 on: June 04, 2022, 01:18:46 PM »
It isn't a mystery, it has already been done.  Do gun buy backs and restrict new supply. The last two literally went to a gun superstore and bought new ARs to go on a shooting spree literally within hours of the purchase of the high capacity killing tool ON rough ridin' CREDIT.
I think that buy backs, waiting periods for gun purchases / red flag laws, limiting purchases of huge quantities of ammo and ending sales of new weapons with detachable magazines could help.
So what is the issue with detachable magazines?
Remove empty magazine and attach loaded magazine.  Could repeat that all day with enough ammo and Uvalde cops (too soon?).


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6977 on: June 04, 2022, 01:30:54 PM »
Ramos was living at the pinnacle of first world problems.   Working at Wendy's yet able to gobble together $4k to $5K to buy his weapons, including a $2,000 plus Daniel Defense AR-15.    So it would seem that his parents/grandparents were covering all of his bills and expenses so he could "save" up all of that money.

Yeah, most high school kids don't have to pay any rent or utilities. They don't even have to buy their own food. Shocking, I know.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6978 on: June 04, 2022, 04:00:11 PM »
I do not endorse intentionally misspelling words to mock dax for spelling worse than a small child.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6979 on: June 04, 2022, 07:10:06 PM »
If you go hunting certain birds with more than three shells in your shotgun, you can get in some trouble. Did you guys know that?  Do you think the Shall Not Be Infringed guys know that? 


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6980 on: June 04, 2022, 07:20:10 PM »
Ramos was living at the pinnacle of first world problems.   Working at Wendy's yet able to gobble together $4k to $5K to buy his weapons, including a $2,000 plus Daniel Defense AR-15.    So it would seem that his parents/grandparents were covering all of his bills and expenses so he could "save" up all of that money.

Yeah, most high school kids don't have to pay any rent or utilities. They don't even have to buy their own food. Shocking, I know.
How to say you don’t fully understand the situation and dynamics with a few poorly thought out taps on the keyboard.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6981 on: June 04, 2022, 07:21:59 PM »
I do not endorse intentionally misspelling words to mock dax for spelling worse than a small child.
I appreciate that the two alleged lawyers along with a couple of others can’t understand the challenges of trying to tapatalk with the opposite of Trump hands.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6983 on: June 05, 2022, 02:44:39 AM »
I do not endorse intentionally misspelling words to mock dax for spelling worse than a small child.
I appreciate that the two alleged lawyers along with a couple of others can’t understand the challenges of trying to tapatalk with the opposite of Trump hands.
Absolutely love this new alleged lawyers talking point.  :excited:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6984 on: June 05, 2022, 03:23:39 PM »
Floyd was certainly especially heinous because it was a case of doing the opposite of their duty rather than just not doing their duty, but based on the facts that have come out, it’s hard for me whether to call the Uvalde situation more of a gun problem or more of a police problem.

With the time he had in that room the casualty count would have been the same regardless of the weapon.

Either that or they have to admit the cowardice was a direct result of the shooter having an assault weapon. In which case the problem and solution here is painfully obvious.
As horrible as the reports of the police response are (if early reports prove to be true), Uvalde situation was 90% gun/psychopath problem and 10% police problem. That being said, I won't be shocked if the "lesson learned" will be that we need to further militarize law enforcement.

I know I'm days late on this and I'm sure someone already made the point but the lesson learned here was already learned at Columbine 23 years ago. There were officers on the scene when Harris and Kleibold were still alive, I think it came out later that all the victims were already dead, but the Littleton PD had a policy not to engage, as did most police departments at the time. This policy changed after Columbine. We know for a fact that the police were there for an hour + before they breeched the building, we also know kids were killed well within that hour. The lesson here is to abide by the lessons we learned nearly 25 years ago.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6985 on: June 05, 2022, 05:03:04 PM »
Floyd was certainly especially heinous because it was a case of doing the opposite of their duty rather than just not doing their duty, but based on the facts that have come out, it’s hard for me whether to call the Uvalde situation more of a gun problem or more of a police problem.

With the time he had in that room the casualty count would have been the same regardless of the weapon.

Either that or they have to admit the cowardice was a direct result of the shooter having an assault weapon. In which case the problem and solution here is painfully obvious.
As horrible as the reports of the police response are (if early reports prove to be true), Uvalde situation was 90% gun/psychopath problem and 10% police problem. That being said, I won't be shocked if the "lesson learned" will be that we need to further militarize law enforcement.

I know I'm days late on this and I'm sure someone already made the point but the lesson learned here was already learned at Columbine 23 years ago. There were officers on the scene when Harris and Kleibold were still alive, I think it came out later that all the victims were already dead, but the Littleton PD had a policy not to engage, as did most police departments at the time. This policy changed after Columbine. We know for a fact that the police were there for an hour + before they breeched the building, we also know kids were killed well within that hour. The lesson here is to abide by the lessons we learned nearly 25 years ago.

Yes, this is covered in Bowling for Columbine. And we definitely already learned the lesson about militarizing the police. Didn't seem to help.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6986 on: June 06, 2022, 03:02:02 PM »
The abundance of mass shootings is making it hard for mass shooters to find an unbiased jury pool:

https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/1533897652869513216?s=20&t=Cgi8grHZLIoQ5gvVyKDVww

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6987 on: June 06, 2022, 07:02:49 PM »
^insanity...well-meaning people must act

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6988 on: June 06, 2022, 08:53:56 PM »
think about how insane this is..that the most moderate Republicans say that raising the age to buy semiautos to 21 is "off the table"...
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/politics/gun-negotiations-congress-republicans/index.html

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6989 on: June 07, 2022, 11:32:07 AM »
In addition to raccoons, prairie dogs are also totally impervious to gunfire from any weapon system beside the AR-15. Without access to AR-15s, our nation will soon be transformed into a desolate prairie dog village.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1534205781305851907?s=20&t=MTZBDjDHya3goaaEYZYLVw


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6990 on: June 07, 2022, 01:00:37 PM »
Separate from the murder of children, I am also opposed to mutilating animals with high powered weapons.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6991 on: June 07, 2022, 01:30:35 PM »
We might as well outlaw .22s since we don't use them any more.


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Re: Another school shooting
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6995 on: June 08, 2022, 07:11:04 PM »
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6996 on: June 08, 2022, 07:35:27 PM »
I mean it’s an inch, but at least it’s something.

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1534661569891553280?s=21&t=OCvXwgwk_zU7naYgak1-Ww

That won't pass the senate.

If we're just passing ceremonial bills, lets have one with actual gravitas. Pelosi is spineless.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6997 on: June 08, 2022, 08:38:11 PM »
^yes, *she's* the problem here...   


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6998 on: June 08, 2022, 09:09:59 PM »
A thing getting house & senate members on record for common sense votes is a worthwhile endeavor. Yes more would be better, but you gotta start with stuff that’s borderline embarrassing not to pass.

Like you have to be what, 16, 18 to buy dry ice or a paintball gun?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6999 on: June 08, 2022, 09:43:29 PM »
A thing getting house & senate members on record for common sense votes is a worthwhile endeavor. Yes more would be better, but you gotta start with stuff that’s borderline embarrassing not to pass.

Like you have to be what, 16, 18 to buy dry ice or a paintball gun?

forget that, 21 for booze and cigs (i guess cigs only some states)