Another school shooting

[Phil Titola]

Foxnews going HAM on FBI dropping the ball. Man who would have thought the right would turn into such a FBI hating team....

[SkinnyBenny]

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/373974-kimmel-writer-tweets-the-amount-lawmakers-have-taken-from-nra-in-response-to

[mocat]

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/373974-kimmel-writer-tweets-the-amount-lawmakers-have-taken-from-nra-in-response-to

good for her. too bad we already decided not to do anything about it. just gotta hope these types of things just go away.

[bucket]

Welp, the political situation in Washington isn't conducive to get funding appropriated through federal government channels right now.   Well, okay then (insert multi-million dollar endowment/foundation/state agency name here) should just keep funding research on (insert inane extramural research funding project here).

https://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/963939574908182528

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/VeronicaRochaLA/status/964236878017839104

[mhkpasa]

Realistic game!

https://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Well I think this was discussed after Sandy Hook, but I and many others would support mental health professionals to flag folks as no-buys in the federal background check system, provided adequate safeguards are put in place to protect their due process rights. And that means not having to hire an attorney and spend thousands of dollars to clear their name.

I’d also like to know why in this day and age so many districts still have money for all sorts of extracurricular activities but just can’t scrape together the cash to secure school entrances. Seems like that should be a top priority.

This is the richest thing from the guy who essentially wants to strangle public schools in a bathtub. Gee, wonder why they are struggling to make ends meet. As if tons of extracurricular activities haven't already gotten a giant ax.

I don’t know what it is about events like these that cause people to get extra trolly, but please. Stop being an bad person.

As I said, securing school entrances should be a top priority. I could put my hands on any school budget and scrape together 200-300k for secure entrances (this is what it cost to outfit my kids’ elementary school a few years ago). I might start by firing a few assistant principals and other unnecessary administration. There are literally dozens and dozens of expenditures that are less important than securing entrances. I question the motivation of school administrators that would rather parlay this needed security into a demand for more funding rather than finding the money in their budgets.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Good thread by Tapper.  So many red flags on this maniac.


https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/964200355612512256

To be fair, the FBI is severely understaffed. They’ve got their hands full concocting and then “foiling” terrorist attacks.

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Didn't this happen just as or after school had let out?

[420seriouscat69]

not if school gets out around 2:30 PM EST.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Didn't this happen just as or after school had let out?

To your point, secure entrances are certainly not a cureall as it doesn’t do much to stop a shooting timed to coincide with mass entrances and exits, but it’s a start.

[Phil Titola]

Well I think this was discussed after Sandy Hook, but I and many others would support mental health professionals to flag folks as no-buys in the federal background check system, provided adequate safeguards are put in place to protect their due process rights. And that means not having to hire an attorney and spend thousands of dollars to clear their name.

I’d also like to know why in this day and age so many districts still have money for all sorts of extracurricular activities but just can’t scrape together the cash to secure school entrances. Seems like that should be a top priority.

This is the richest thing from the guy who essentially wants to strangle public schools in a bathtub. Gee, wonder why they are struggling to make ends meet. As if tons of extracurricular activities haven't already gotten a giant ax.

I don’t know what it is about events like these that cause people to get extra trolly, but please. Stop being an bad person.

As I said, securing school entrances should be a top priority. I could put my hands on any school budget and scrape together 200-300k for secure entrances (this is what it cost to outfit my kids’ elementary school a few years ago). I might start by firing a few assistant principals and other unnecessary administration. There are literally dozens and dozens of expenditures that are less important than securing entrances. I question the motivation of school administrators that would rather parlay this needed security into a demand for more funding rather than finding the money in their budgets.

There are ~100k public schools in America + 34k private schools x $300,000....$40B+....maybe that should be what we use that extra defense budget money being requested, since you know, we can't even fathom doing anything else about the weapons used to commit these murders.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

[Phil Titola]

How we going to do the college campuses?  Entry points at every sidewalk onto campus or just into buildings?

[puniraptor]

i'm surprised school shootings are still even competitive in the mass shooting game. I thought pulse and vegas would have put them out of business.

[michigancat]

Also most California schools are open campuses.

But let's be real, we're not going to do anything ever and we should just accept it and hope our kids aren't at the school where someone decided to start shooting students

[Joker]

Looks like he just walked in to the school with a duffel bag and started shooting.  Then ditched the gear and fled with the rest of the students.  Stopped for some McDonald's afterwards.


Insane.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-shooting.html

[Phil Titola]

Also most California schools are open campuses.

But let's be real, we're not going to do anything ever and we should just accept it and hope our kids aren't at the school where someone decided to start shooting students

We're going to get good at building walls so should be some subcontractors out there that can build mini-walls for these schools. 

We're taking care of the mental health aspect by cutting medicare, so solved on that front....the only thing left is to lock down these schools.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-shooting.html

I'm lost on the timing.  I'd seen something to this effect yesterday, which is why I was under the impression it was when school let out:

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said the school resource officer was on campus but did not run into Mr. Cruz. The gunman arrived during dismissal, when the campus was “fairly open,” according to Robert W. Runcie, the superintendent of the Broward County Public Schools.

But I see in the same article and plenty of others that kids were in classes when shots started, and have also seen that school was ongoing but they were exiting the building b/c of a fire alarm.

Anyway, little piecemeal "fixes" aren't going to stop someone with a gun.  America needs to do what all the other countries do that don't have these problems, including taking everyone's guns if that's what it comes down to.  I'm fine w/forfeiting mine.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Also most California schools are open campuses.

But let's be real, we're not going to do anything ever and we should just accept it and hope our kids aren't at the school where someone decided to start shooting students

We're going to get good at building walls so should be some subcontractors out there that can build mini-walls for these schools. 

We're taking care of the mental health aspect by cutting medicare, so solved on that front....the only thing left is to lock down these schools.

Conflating this tragedy with Trump’s Wall is an especially good piece of trolling. You should be very proud of yourself.

[Phil Titola]

Trying to flesh out your solution. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

One thing I knew as a kid, was that I never wanted to get on the psychos in middle school and high schools bad side. So like, if you did tell and they found out, you're pretty much mumped. Maybe that was their strategy. lol it off until graduation.

Dear leader laid this at the feet of the kids....dunno

What a surprise, another use of the tragedy to slam Trump! Interestingly, Terri Moses is not coming under fire for making the same. exact. point. Probably because it is common freaking sense, and no sane person would ever equate such prudence as blaming the victims.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article200362704.html

[Phil Titola]

One thing I knew as a kid, was that I never wanted to get on the psychos in middle school and high schools bad side. So like, if you did tell and they found out, you're pretty much mumped. Maybe that was their strategy. lol it off until graduation.

Dear leader laid this at the feet of the kids....dunno

What a surprise, another use of the tragedy to slam Trump! Interestingly, Terri Moses is not coming under fire for making the same. exact. point. Probably because it is common freaking sense, and no sane person would ever equate such prudence as blaming the victims.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article200362704.html

I don't know who da fuq that is but pretty sure she isn't my president.  Saying people should speak up in general seems a little different than tweeting out the day after a tragedy that these specific kids that knew of this threat didn't report to authorities "again and again"

[SkinnyBenny]

maybe Terri Moses isn't coming under fire because no one knows who he or she is, other than that he or she is not the president of the united states

[star seed 7]

I'm pretty "plugged in" but I, also, have never heard of Terri Moses

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

One thing I knew as a kid, was that I never wanted to get on the psychos in middle school and high schools bad side. So like, if you did tell and they found out, you're pretty much mumped. Maybe that was their strategy. lol it off until graduation.

Dear leader laid this at the feet of the kids....dunno

What a surprise, another use of the tragedy to slam Trump! Interestingly, Terri Moses is not coming under fire for making the same. exact. point. Probably because it is common freaking sense, and no sane person would ever equate such prudence as blaming the victims.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article200362704.html

I don't know who da fuq that is but pretty sure she isn't my president.  Saying people should speak up in general seems a little different than tweeting out the day after a tragedy that these specific kids that knew of this threat didn't report to authorities "again and again"

First, you are deliberately distorting what trump said. Second, Terri Moses is the director of safety services for USD 259, and she made these comments in the wake of the shooting. The comments are absolutely commmon sense and only the most diseased partisan troll would critics her, or Trump, for pointing out the obvious.