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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7000 on: June 08, 2022, 10:21:44 PM »
it's going to take absolute baby steps

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7001 on: June 08, 2022, 10:34:53 PM »
it's going to take absolute baby steps

How many babies will it take per step, do you think?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7002 on: June 08, 2022, 10:35:29 PM »
it's going to take absolute baby steps

How many babies will it take per step, do you think?

irl hundreds which sucks

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7003 on: June 09, 2022, 11:30:48 AM »
^yes, *she's* the problem here...   


amazing the things that people insist on "bothsides"-ing

I don't think we have the same definition of bothsidesing

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7004 on: June 09, 2022, 05:11:02 PM »
this is actually the best case scenario.  the conspiracy theory is that they shot a kid and let the killer do more killing to cover it up.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1534991371047780352
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Another school shooting
« Reply #7005 on: June 09, 2022, 05:17:43 PM »
I had not heard that conspiracy but Jesus Christ if true. Yes, them being cowardly pieces of crap is best case.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7006 on: June 09, 2022, 09:49:41 PM »
I too am glad that I was not on social media to hear that theory.

The facts of the case are bad enough. The only person that rushed in there was a mother who liberated an entire classroom despite being cuffed for trying to go in and then fleeing and jumping a fence after being released from cuffs.

How has the chief not resigned yet?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7007 on: June 10, 2022, 07:05:37 PM »
I too am glad that I was not on social media to hear that theory.

The facts of the case are bad enough. The only person that rushed in there was a mother who liberated an entire classroom despite being cuffed for trying to go in and then fleeing and jumping a fence after being released from cuffs.

How has the chief not resigned yet?

It is apparently a safe job

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7008 on: June 10, 2022, 11:51:09 PM »

How has the chief not resigned yet?
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/09/uvalde-chief-pete-arredondo-interview/

He's going with the "extreme incompetence" defense...and I'm still not sure I believe it.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7010 on: June 12, 2022, 09:36:43 PM »
Red flag laws seem like something that might actually prevent some mass shootings, but the enhanced funding to states that implement them will only send dollars to states that already have them, while the mouth breathers in our legislature turn down the money. I honestly don't even know what a background check entails, let alone an enhanced background check, so I have no idea about how effective that part of it might be.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7011 on: June 12, 2022, 09:41:52 PM »
yes, this is better than nothing, but barely.

politics of it are interesting.  will it help the GOPers who vote for it because they can say "they did something"? or will it hurt GOP supporters since their gun nut base wants nothing done?  can the GOP who vote against it be attacked for opposing even this incredibly weak sauce bill?  it's a tougher vote for Repubs than for Dems, that's for sure.

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« Reply #7012 on: June 12, 2022, 10:18:51 PM »
Red flag laws are intriguing to me because it seems like many conservatives are ok with an ex parte court order taking away all of someone’s guns vs. banning guns no one actually needs like AR-15s or various other semi-autos. Like the one they more generally support is literally the straw man they act so afraid of.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7013 on: June 12, 2022, 10:25:41 PM »
Red flag laws are intriguing to me because it seems like many conservatives are ok with an ex parte court order taking away all of someone’s guns vs. banning guns no one actually needs like AR-15s or various other semi-autos. Like the one they more generally support is literally the straw man they act so afraid of.
Jfc

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7014 on: June 12, 2022, 10:39:48 PM »
note that it's just $ for red flag laws...no state will HAVE to implement them...so red state domestic abusers/schizos will get to keep their guns, don't worry

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7015 on: June 14, 2022, 11:10:41 PM »
https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/06/shooting-school-texas-uvalde-sandy-hook-conspiracy.html

this is interesting/infuriating in its own right, but also for how much similarity there is between the subject of the article and a certain poster/posters here

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7016 on: June 18, 2022, 08:34:42 AM »
Liability, registration, tax, etc. shotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR (if we are going to be cowards and not outlaw) crap loads. Use the money to fund counseling, etc. Been saying this for years.
Your gun was used in a crime? It’s your personal household worth and insurance paying for it. Black market non insured gun? Impounded like a car. Why TF are pawn shop gun sales and gun shows a thing? These are not drastic steps.

yes!

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7017 on: June 18, 2022, 08:39:32 AM »
Do taxes next


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7018 on: June 18, 2022, 09:24:10 AM »
Liability, registration, tax, etc. shotgun is almost nothing, handgun and AR (if we are going to be cowards and not outlaw) crap loads. Use the money to fund counseling, etc. Been saying this for years.
Your gun was used in a crime? It’s your personal household worth and insurance paying for it. Black market non insured gun? Impounded like a car. Why TF are pawn shop gun sales and gun shows a thing? These are not drastic steps.

yes!

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1538091672889966594
It occurred to me recently that this is by far the best avenue for doing something about guns, similar to the Texas abortion civil suit law. I hope every state does this and does it often if the laws get struck down for whatever reason.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7019 on: June 18, 2022, 11:52:05 AM »
Blue states probably will. Red states will not


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7020 on: June 18, 2022, 11:53:44 AM »
We should probably ban cars from Democratic voters with recent events.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7021 on: June 18, 2022, 12:01:36 PM »
We should probably ban cars from Democratic voters with recent events.
It’s a real epidemic. How many people died? Hundreds? Thousands?


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7022 on: June 18, 2022, 12:04:11 PM »
We should probably ban cars from Democratic voters with recent events.
It’s a real epidemic. How many people died? Hundreds? Thousands?


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7023 on: June 18, 2022, 12:20:23 PM »
We should probably ban cars from Democratic voters with recent events.
great response to a point about requiring INSURANCE for guns

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #7024 on: June 18, 2022, 12:26:55 PM »
We should probably ban cars from Democratic voters with recent events.
great response to a point about requiring INSURANCE for guns
Yes, that was a hot one