Another school shooting

[star seed 7]

scary, weird dorks... not lovable, goofball dorks.

[gatoveintisiete]

The guy may be an arrogant prick, but he's usually pretty knowledgable. I haven't done any fact checking on this yet, so take it for what it's worth.  None of it would surprise me however:

OMFG what a dumbass, would love to see Steve Dave get ahold of this guy and just 'splain a few things to him, pretty sure he just flat made most of that crap up. 

[Dugout DickStone]

whether or not we should ban certain guns or all guns or whatever is certainly a debatable topic with people on both sides. what we can all agree on is that "gun people" are just absolute dorks though right?

Yes.  They think it is pretty awesome though but they really are basically dungeons and dragons nerds.

[Rage Against the McKee]

whether or not we should ban certain guns or all guns or whatever is certainly a debatable topic with people on both sides. what we can all agree on is that "gun people" are just absolute dorks though right?

Yes.  They think it is pretty awesome though but they really are basically dungeons and dragons nerds.

Yeah. They are the dungeons and dragons nerds who aren't smart enough to figure out how to play dungeons and dragons.

[Shacks]

whether or not we should ban certain guns or all guns or whatever is certainly a debatable topic with people on both sides. what we can all agree on is that "gun people" are just absolute dorks though right?

Yes.  They think it is pretty awesome though but they really are basically dungeons and dragons nerds.

You can say that about anyone who is obsessed with just about anything.  Fantasy sports are D&D for jocks.

[Dugout DickStone]

whether or not we should ban certain guns or all guns or whatever is certainly a debatable topic with people on both sides. what we can all agree on is that "gun people" are just absolute dorks though right?

Yes.  They think it is pretty awesome though but they really are basically dungeons and dragons nerds.

You can say that about anyone who is obsessed with just about anything.  Fantasy sports are D&D for jocks.

It takes 3 hours, with tons of beer, to draft a fantasy football team.  It takes a lifetime of being a dork to play D&D.  It takes even more of a lifetime of being a dork to get off on collecting assault rifles.  I mean, JFC, what tools need to pool funds to buy an AK and what type of total tool even wants one?

[eastcat]

whether or not we should ban certain guns or all guns or whatever is certainly a debatable topic with people on both sides. what we can all agree on is that "gun people" are just absolute dorks though right?

Yes.  They think it is pretty awesome though but they really are basically dungeons and dragons nerds.

You can say that about anyone who is obsessed with just about anything.  Fantasy sports are D&D for jocks.

It takes 3 hours, with tons of beer, to draft a fantasy football team.  It takes a lifetime of being a dork to play D&D.  It takes even more of a lifetime of being a dork to get off on collecting assault rifles.  I mean, JFC, what tools need to pool funds to buy an AK and what type of total tool even wants one?

I want one, but only in 5.45x39. 7.62x39 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) expensive right now.

I will agree that pooling funds for such an acquisition is dumb. I mean that's like going 50/50 on a hooker, who gets stuck with sloppy seconds??

[Sandstone Outcropping]

whether or not we should ban certain guns or all guns or whatever is certainly a debatable topic with people on both sides. what we can all agree on is that "gun people" are just absolute dorks though right?

Yes.  They think it is pretty awesome though but they really are basically dungeons and dragons nerds.

You can say that about anyone who is obsessed with just about anything.  Fantasy sports are D&D for jocks.

It takes 3 hours, with tons of beer, to draft a fantasy football team.  It takes a lifetime of being a dork to play D&D.  It takes even more of a lifetime of being a dork to get off on collecting assault rifles.  I mean, JFC, what tools need to pool funds to buy an AK and what type of total tool even wants one?

I want one, but only in 5.45x39. 7.62x39 is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) expensive right now.

I will agree that pooling funds for such an acquisition is dumb. I mean that's like going 50/50 on a hooker, who gets stuck with sloppy seconds??

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I just read ALL of this thread from scratch for the first time.  I was in Seattle when this happened and was seeing a girl I don't get to see very often and we weren't going to let this ruin our lunch.  Get in the elevator and I'm telling a joke or something - there wasn't dead air - and some old lady just overtalks me, to us, about how bad this was.  I wish I'd had my ipad logged on to this thread to give to her before she interrupted me.

The other thread I gave up on keeping up with is the football recruiting thread, where I'm about 80 pages behind.  I saw some digs on Merv in this one, but I hope he really got it over there.  Maybe Sunday.

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rebloodlican and democrip

Even dax thinks these are stupid.

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Dlew may be on to something!

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/no-really-regulate-the-bullets/266332/

Also I hadnt even thought that one day you could be able to 3d print your own gun

Somebody didn't go to FattyFest...

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why not develop a gun test like a drivers license test and require yearly exams?

I cannot believe this isn't already a thing

You know what I needed to do to own a gun? Win a raffle. That is it.

I had a friend's wife get me one at the gun store.

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Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What are the other purposes?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14197.0

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I'm starting to think maybe we should destigmatize suicide a bit. Maybe a PSA campaign "kill yourself. Before you kill someone else." Seems shitty fighting tragedy with tragedy like that, by maybe it could help.

[eastcat]

Dlew may be on to something!

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/no-really-regulate-the-bullets/266332/

Also I hadnt even thought that one day you could be able to 3d print your own gun

Somebody didn't go to FattyFest...

It's so painfully obvious this crap is written by people who don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.

Bullets are so easy to come by that it's clear that huge stockpiles exist throughout the country. But unlike guns, bullets are single use

Really!?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+reloading+press

 
 

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Dlew may be on to something!

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/no-really-regulate-the-bullets/266332/

Also I hadnt even thought that one day you could be able to 3d print your own gun

Somebody didn't go to FattyFest...

It's so painfully obvious this crap is written by people who don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.

I don't think you have a clue what I was talking about. 

[michigancat]

Nice article, I agree with most of it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711/

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Nice article, I agree with most of it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711/

But if you're a conservative gun owner who worries that gun control today could make tyranny easier to impose tomorrow, and you support warrantless spying, indefinite detention, and secret drone strikes on Americans accused of terrorism, what explains your seeming schizophrenia?

I think the writer put way to much stock in this statement. No one I know supports any of those things, and didn't while Bush was president either. I can understand why a president would like to have those options, and Obama seems to like them as much as Bush, so I don't get the conservative vs liberal slant. It seems liberals just trust government more than conservatives.

[michigancat]

Nice article, I agree with most of it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711/

But if you're a conservative gun owner who worries that gun control today could make tyranny easier to impose tomorrow, and you support warrantless spying, indefinite detention, and secret drone strikes on Americans accused of terrorism, what explains your seeming schizophrenia?

I think the writer put way to much stock in this statement. No one I know supports any of those things, and didn't while Bush was president either. I can understand why a president would like to have those options, and Obama seems to like them as much as Bush, so I don't get the conservative vs liberal slant. It seems liberals just trust government more than conservatives.

Well, house republicans overwhelmingly support warrantless wiretapping:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h569

You and your buds might not, but I don't recall much outrage directed at these guys from the right.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Nice article, I agree with most of it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711/

But if you're a conservative gun owner who worries that gun control today could make tyranny easier to impose tomorrow, and you support warrantless spying, indefinite detention, and secret drone strikes on Americans accused of terrorism, what explains your seeming schizophrenia?

I think the writer put way to much stock in this statement. No one I know supports any of those things, and didn't while Bush was president either. I can understand why a president would like to have those options, and Obama seems to like them as much as Bush, so I don't get the conservative vs liberal slant. It seems liberals just trust government more than conservatives.

Well, house republicans overwhelmingly support warrantless wiretapping:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h569

You and your buds might not, but I don't recall much outrage directed at these guys from the right.

Well, you're rarely going to find a more bipartisan vote than that one. Your average gun owner, conservative or liberal, is not likely to support that legislation.

[michigancat]

Nice article, I agree with most of it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711/

But if you're a conservative gun owner who worries that gun control today could make tyranny easier to impose tomorrow, and you support warrantless spying, indefinite detention, and secret drone strikes on Americans accused of terrorism, what explains your seeming schizophrenia?

I think the writer put way to much stock in this statement. No one I know supports any of those things, and didn't while Bush was president either. I can understand why a president would like to have those options, and Obama seems to like them as much as Bush, so I don't get the conservative vs liberal slant. It seems liberals just trust government more than conservatives.

Well, house republicans overwhelmingly support warrantless wiretapping:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h569

You and your buds might not, but I don't recall much outrage directed at these guys from the right.

Well, you're rarely going to find a more bipartisan vote than that one. Your average gun owner, conservative or liberal, is not likely to support that legislation.

Yet the average gun owner is likely to support the congresspeople who (overwhelmingly) voted for it. Because the second amendment is more important to them than all the others. Which was the point of the article.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Nice article, I agree with most of it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711/

But if you're a conservative gun owner who worries that gun control today could make tyranny easier to impose tomorrow, and you support warrantless spying, indefinite detention, and secret drone strikes on Americans accused of terrorism, what explains your seeming schizophrenia?

I think the writer put way to much stock in this statement. No one I know supports any of those things, and didn't while Bush was president either. I can understand why a president would like to have those options, and Obama seems to like them as much as Bush, so I don't get the conservative vs liberal slant. It seems liberals just trust government more than conservatives.

Well, house republicans overwhelmingly support warrantless wiretapping:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h569

You and your buds might not, but I don't recall much outrage directed at these guys from the right.

Well, you're rarely going to find a more bipartisan vote than that one. Your average gun owner, conservative or liberal, is not likely to support that legislation.

Yet the average gun owner is likely to support the congresspeople who (overwhelmingly) voted for it. Because the second amendment is more important to them than all the others. Which was the point of the article.

What was the point of singling out conservative gun owners when 40% of liberals voted for it? Which was my point.

[michigancat]

What was the point of singling out conservative gun owners when 40% of liberals voted for it? Which was my point.

Do you really not know? OK, guess we're done here.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

What was the point of singling out conservative gun owners when 40% of liberals voted for it? Which was my point.

Do you really not know? OK, guess we're done here.

yeah, this is why the government is completely mumped right now and more than 50% want others to give more money to these idiots. 

[HeinBallz]

Hypocrisy exist on the left and the right - but mostly "republicans" don't pay attention and have no idea what warrantless wire tapping or the NDAA is - nor does your average "democrat".  Kind of like the left wing war protestors absolutely disappearing after Obama was elected.