Author Topic: Who to Root Against (Not ND) (Read 13398 times)

Belvis Noland · « **on:** October 30, 2012, 10:26:47 AM »

Brad Edwards from ESPN on 810 this morning. Interesting perspective that I hadn't thought about.

We do not want Notre Dame to lose. Here's why:

-ND is behind KSU and ND won't be able to make up any ground with its pitiful schedule over the next month (Pitt, BC, Wake). They won their trophy game (OU) and they're still behind us. USC might be a 4 loss team by time ND plays them. ND isn't scary.
-ND loss allows Oregon to move up in the computers (which make up 1/3 of BCS standings), likely giving Oregon enough points to jump K-State in BCS. Basically, undefeated ND keeps Oregon's computer ranking lower, which in turn, keeps BCS ranking lower. Undefeated ND is our buffer.

These are the scenarios from best to worst:

1) 2 teams lose.
2) Alabama or Oregon lose.
3) All 4 teams remain undefeated.
4) Notre Dame is only team to lose.

yoEMAW · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:33:03 AM »

Firewall team

steve dave · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:36:09 AM »

yeah, we talked about that in the rankings thread

michigancat · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:43:21 AM »

Just another one of those guys who will make sure Notre Dame is in and the KSU Cats are out.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:52:12 AM »

No, they all need to lose. Oregon to USC twice. ND to USC. Bama to LSU and Georgia in the SEC champ. Then crap gets interesting.

cvmcat · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:07:37 AM »

I'm going to LOL at the outraged indignation when an undefeated ND can't pass an undefeated K-State for number 2 in the BCS. It will be epic.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:09:48 AM »

florida also needs to win out. that florida/florida state game at the end of the year could potentially be pretty huge for ksucats.

The1BigWillie · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:10:59 AM »

Quote from: cvmcat on October 30, 2012, 11:07:37 AM

I'm going to LOL at the outraged indignation when an undefeated ND can't pass an undefeated K-State for number 2 in the BCS. It will be epic.

SUPERBUTTHURTKUFAN swears ND will blow us away in the BCS if we are both undefeated says. "WILL NOT BE CLOSE". Coaches and Harris will vote ND ahead of KSU to make sure it happens.

cvmcat · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:12:50 AM »

Quote from: The1BigWillie on October 30, 2012, 11:10:59 AM

Quote from: cvmcat on October 30, 2012, 11:07:37 AM
I'm going to LOL at the outraged indignation when an undefeated ND can't pass an undefeated K-State for number 2 in the BCS. It will be epic.

SUPERBUTTHURTKUFAN swears ND will blow us away in the BCS if we are both undefeated says. "WILL NOT BE CLOSE". Coaches and Harris will vote ND ahead of KSU to make sure it happens.

Then he's fixin to be EXTRAPRIMOSUPERBUTTHURTKUFAN.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:18:06 AM »

my ND friend and I joked before the season started about how we'd end up playing for the championship. Still kinda hoping that happens. Would love to see the great white hope destroy their Hawaiian dude with a skull crushing block while The Chamber walks in for his 4th td.

pissclams · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:22:24 AM »

Quote from: AbeFroman on October 30, 2012, 10:52:12 AM

No, they all need to lose. Oregon to USC twice. ND to USC. Bama to LSU and Georgia in the SEC champ. Then crap gets interesting.

yup, that is exactly when crap gets interesting.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:23:24 AM »

what if every team lost all of their games from here on out?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:31:08 AM »

All I want is an OCC (Outright Conference Championship).

michigancat · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:53:33 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2012, 11:31:08 AM

All I want is an OCC (Outright Conference Championship).

I'll be pretty damn satisfied if this happens, but goddammit, to quote the late great Freddie Mercury, I WANT IT ALL. Seasons like this are rare.

steve dave · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:54:40 AM »

at this point I would not absolutely be satisfied with an outright conference championship. that is baseline for not being meltdowny. undefeated and Fiesta Bowl is my current satisfied.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:07:53 PM »

Guys, we're going to get mumped. Stop trying to convince me we're not.

Institutional Control · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:21:04 PM »

If we go undefeated and don't go the MNC I will freak out.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:21:43 PM »

with threads like this, you can definitely tell who believes in fatty and who doesn't.

Mr Bread · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:24:16 PM »

Quote from: OK Cat on October 30, 2012, 11:18:06 AM

my ND friend and I joked before the season started about how we'd end up playing for the championship. Still kinda hoping that happens. Would love to see the great white hope destroy their Hawaiian dude with a skull crushing block while The Chamber walks in for his 4th td.

Impressive.

Bookcat · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:27:40 PM »

i'm amazed we're able to have this conversation.

I predicted a 9 win season and a trip to the Holiday Bowl....That' could still happen if we implode.....but,......i'm just shaking my head that we're in the hunt AT ALL for a National Title. OMFG.

p1k3 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:29:15 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on October 30, 2012, 11:53:33 AM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2012, 11:31:08 AM
All I want is an OCC (Outright Conference Championship).

I'll be pretty damn satisfied if this happens, but goddammit, to quote the late great Freddie Mercury, I WANT IT ALL. Seasons like this are rare.

same. Can't stress this enough. It's the only thing we can control, and it would be glorious

Bookcat · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:36:32 PM »

on that note...how desperate will Ostate play? They still have a shot to win the Big XII...best among anyone not named KState. Will Gundy go full-fundy and just flea flicker us to death or will he run Randle to death? I can't tell. Just keep 'em in front of us...force a mistake...and let Klein go to work.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:43:04 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on October 30, 2012, 11:54:40 AM

at this point I would not absolutely be satisfied with an outright conference championship. that is baseline for not being meltdowny. undefeated and Fiesta Bowl is my current satisfied.

I think this would be the worst possible outcome (especially when get Boise or Louisville as our opponent).

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #23 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:45:51 PM »

Quote from: Mr Bread on October 30, 2012, 12:24:16 PM

Quote from: OK Cat on October 30, 2012, 11:18:06 AM
my ND friend and I joked before the season started about how we'd end up playing for the championship. Still kinda hoping that happens. Would love to see the great white hope destroy their Hawaiian dude with a skull crushing block while The Chamber walks in for his 4th td.

Impressive.

Yeah I'm not sure I actually believe that OK actually has an ND friend

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #24 on:** October 30, 2012, 12:50:24 PM »

most likely 2/4 will lose and it will be clear cut. the odds are way in favor of that. most likely candidates to lose a game are probably ND, Oregon, us and Bama in that order.