Only a mouth breathing yokel could possibly think "joe" won that debate. At best he sounded like an msnbc pundit, realistically he sounded like a drunk guy arguing politics at a bar in coffeyville, ks. He looked like the baffoon we all knew he already was. The fact that Ryan absolutely clowned him on foreign policy, Joe's strong suit, tells you all you really need to know.
Hilarious that the libs we all up in arms about style over substance a week ago, now their fawning over a braggadocios inappropriate loud mouth regurgitating boring blogotalking points.
Also, that Martha lady creeps me out a bit.