Media hates us, we get no respect, keep the chip on our shoulder thread

[MixBerryCrunch]

Man, can you imagine being OU or Texas right now and not even being a part of these discussions? #soblessed 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Man, can you imagine being OU or Texas right now and not even being a part of these discussions? #soblessed 

We lived it from 2004-2009. I can feel their pain, but then again Go Cats.

[millertime]

"manhattan, ks has about five people in it'

-paul finebaum's side kick guy

Does he know that Starkville and Oxford combined are smaller than Manhattan?

[Frankenklein]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

It shouldn't. Our win over Oklahoma looks a whole lot better than anything Georgia or Ohio State have done, though.

[CHONGS]

If comparing schedules is a must then one needs to take into account (IMHO) the teams best win and their worst loss.  This gives a sort of upper and lower bound to the team.

['taterblast]

"manhattan, ks has about five people in it'

-paul finebaum's side kick guy

Does he know that Starkville and Oxford combined are smaller than Manhattan?

i had no idea both those towns were so tiny

[CHONGS]

For KSU (right now):
Best Win => Oklahoma
Worst Loss => Auburn

Although, one could (perhaps likely) argue that in fact barely beating ISU was our worst "loss" (this is what ChiMERA thinks at least).

[Belvis Noland]

"manhattan, ks has about five people in it'

-paul finebaum's side kick guy

Does he know that Starkville and Oxford combined are smaller than Manhattan?

They're not.  MHK's poplation of 55K includes both students and ft. riley soliders.  Looks like Oxford and Starkville don't include student body. 

['taterblast]

"manhattan, ks has about five people in it'

-paul finebaum's side kick guy

Does he know that Starkville and Oxford combined are smaller than Manhattan?

They're not.  MHK's poplation of 55K includes both students and ft. riley soliders.  Looks like Oxford and Starkville don't include student body.

NOT THAT THIS MATTERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

but why would the us census use different criteria in the two places?

[Frankenklein]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

It shouldn't. Our win over Oklahoma looks a whole lot better than anything Georgia or Ohio State have done, though.

So if you have two 11-1 teams,team A and team B and team A's loss was to 12-0 team X and team B's loss was to KU it wouldn't matter?

[Cire]

A one loss big 12 team isn't losing to ku.  Awful talking point

[Belvis Noland]

NOT THAT THIS MATTERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

but why would the us census use different criteria in the two places?

No clue. 

[Frankenklein]

A one loss big 12 team isn't losing to ku.  Awful talking point

OK say it was to Iowa State

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

It shouldn't. Our win over Oklahoma looks a whole lot better than anything Georgia or Ohio State have done, though.

So if you have two 11-1 teams,team A and team B and team A's loss was to 12-0 team X and team B's loss was to KU it wouldn't matter?

No. I would want to know who the teams beat. Team B would be Big 12 champs and would likely have the better wins.

[Frankenklein]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

It shouldn't. Our win over Oklahoma looks a whole lot better than anything Georgia or Ohio State have done, though.

So if you have two 11-1 teams,team A and team B and team A's loss was to 12-0 team X and team B's loss was to KU it wouldn't matter?

No. I would want to know who the teams beat. Team B would be Big 12 champs and would likely have the better wins.

I agree SOS is important but if SOS is pretty much equal between two teams with one loss you need to look at the loss

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

It shouldn't. Our win over Oklahoma looks a whole lot better than anything Georgia or Ohio State have done, though.

So if you have two 11-1 teams,team A and team B and team A's loss was to 12-0 team X and team B's loss was to KU it wouldn't matter?

No. I would want to know who the teams beat. Team B would be Big 12 champs and would likely have the better wins.

I agree SOS is important but if SOS is pretty much equal between two teams with one loss you need to look at the loss

If the schedules were equal, team B would have a win over an 11-1 team and clearly be the best team in its conference. Team A would just be 2nd best. I really don't care that team A was better than Kansas, and the committee shouldn't, either.

[Cire]

Iowa State might be as bad as kansas.   

[Spracne]

Iowa State might be as bad as kansas.

Think about what you're saying here.  No.

[Frankenklein]

I think our loss to Auburn looks better than Georgia losing to South Carolina and Ohio State losing to V-Tech

It shouldn't. Our win over Oklahoma looks a whole lot better than anything Georgia or Ohio State have done, though.

So if you have two 11-1 teams,team A and team B and team A's loss was to 12-0 team X and team B's loss was to KU it wouldn't matter?

No. I would want to know who the teams beat. Team B would be Big 12 champs and would likely have the better wins.

I agree SOS is important but if SOS is pretty much equal between two teams with one loss you need to look at the loss

If the schedules were equal, team B would have a win over an 11-1 team and clearly be the best team in its conference. Team A would just be 2nd best. I really don't care that team A was better than Kansas, and the committee shouldn't, either.

I think you're assuming A and B are in the same conference and played each other but they couldn't be,one would have two losses.

I just think if you have two one loss teams and they both have played really close SOS"s you have to look at the loss and if one of them lost to a really crap school the other should get the nod 

[06wildcat]

NOT THAT THIS MATTERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

but why would the us census use different criteria in the two places?

No clue.

NOT THAT THIS MATTERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

The Census Bureau has the same criteria everywhere. Generally it where you live for most of the year or where you were living on April 1.

Individually, each city is smaller than Manhattan if you add their enrollment to the census count. The counties are also much smaller.

[Katpappy]

NOT THAT THIS MATTERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

but why would the us census use different criteria in the two places?

No clue.

Idiot talking point, they don't include non-residents in census counts. 

[MixBerryCrunch]

What the hell is going on in here?

[MakeItRain]

"Well you hit rock bottom when K-STATE BEATS YOU 23-0." 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/no-11-kansas-state-routs-texas-23-0-in-big-12/ar-BBbaCvI

Do you know how to properly use quotes?

It's not their quote, it's paraphrased.  Did you even read or watch the vid?  You don't have to answer, because you glanced at it and came up with the helpful question that doesn't pertain to the subject.  But what else you anyone expect from self claimed board genius MIR.

Paraphrase. So no, you have no idea how to use quotations.

[Emo EMAW]

It's a phone book stacking contest.


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