"Obamacare"

[Cartierfor3]

Weird how expensive stuff can get when you monopolize it and eliminate competition.

[ChiComCat]

Yes, the previous system was working so well.

[kim carnes]

Yes, the previous system was working so well.

shut up you obamabot

[ChiComCat]

Yes, the previous system was working so well.

shut up you obamabot

I don't know if Obamacare is the answer.  Haven't studied it in depth or anything, but I've learned enough about the old system to know it was pretty mumped.  Is Obamacare better?   I think that will take time to see.

[Cartierfor3]

Yes, the previous system was working so well.

Those are the only 2 options?

[ChiComCat]

No.  What I would disagree with was that your statement seemed to come from the belief that the previous marketplace was both open and competitive.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

No.  What I would disagree with was that your statement seemed to come from the belief that the previous marketplace was both open and competitive.

This was the answer to affordable healthcare, and they mumped it up forever. No going back now.

[Cartierfor3]

No.  What I would disagree with was that your statement seemed to come from the belief that the previous marketplace was both open and competitive.

Oh I don't believe it was at all. But what little competition was in health care has now been squashed. 

[chum1]

How was competition in the healthcare business different than competition in other typical businesses?

Of all major reasons I've heard cited for rising healthcare costs, I'm not sure I've ever heard lack of competition.

[wetwillie]

How was competition in the healthcare business different than competition in other typical businesses?

Of all major reasons I've heard cited for rising healthcare costs, I'm not sure I've ever heard lack of competition.

Our diet drives health care costs.  Anything else is really secondary.

[ChiComCat]

The competition flaws I am referring to are with how they compete and at what level (usually locally), as well as strict limits to consumer choice within each plan.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

How was competition in the healthcare business different than competition in other typical businesses?

Of all major reasons I've heard cited for rising healthcare costs, I'm not sure I've ever heard lack of competition.

There is no such thing as interstate medical insurance sales. If you wanted to sell medical insurance in all fifty states, you have to open fifty separate businesses. This may be too simplistic, so anyone in the medical insurance business feel free to chime in.

I do know many states have one insurance company that holds more than 75% of all policies.

[chum1]

How was competition in the healthcare business different than competition in other typical businesses?

Of all major reasons I've heard cited for rising healthcare costs, I'm not sure I've ever heard lack of competition.

There is no such thing as interstate medical insurance sales. If you wanted to sell medical insurance in all fifty states, you have to open fifty separate businesses. This may be too simplistic, so anyone in the medical insurance business feel free to chime in.

I do know many states have one insurance company that holds more than 75% of all policies.

I've worked in the health insurance business for a long time.  Everything you said is false. 

[chum1]

The competition flaws I am referring to are with how they compete and at what level (usually locally), as well as strict limits to consumer choice within each plan.

Okay, so how is how they compete different from how typical businesses compete?  How are the limits to consumer choice in health insurance different from limits to consumer choice in typical businesses?

[sys]

Our diet drives health care costs.  Anything else is really secondary.

hugely, ridiculously false.

[wetwillie]

Our diet drives health care costs.  Anything else is really secondary.

hugely, ridiculously false.

i'd love to hear why

[sys]

Our diet drives health care costs.  Anything else is really secondary.

hugely, ridiculously false.

i'd love to hear why

you're the one who threw out a completely unsupported, completely illogical statement.  try to google up some evidence to support it.  then i'll refute anything you find that you think supports your position.

[wetwillie]

Our diet drives health care costs.  Anything else is really secondary.

hugely, ridiculously false.

i'd love to hear why

you're the one who threw out a completely unsupported, completely illogical statement.  try to google up some evidence to support it.  then i'll refute anything you find that you think supports your position.

google came up with some guy from berkeley offering a similar position, I think it hates me.

[sys]

google came up with some guy from berkeley offering a similar position, I think it hates me.

link it, please?  i'd like to read it while i wait for my kstate wildcats to play bball today.

[wetwillie]

google came up with some guy from berkeley offering a similar position, I think it hates me.

link it, please?  i'd like to read it while i wait for my kstate wildcats to play bball today.

http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/10/27/whats-the-biggest-driver-of-health-care-costs-our-personal-behaviors/

[Stevesie60]

google came up with some guy from berkeley offering a similar position, I think it hates me.

link it, please?  i'd like to read it while i wait for my kstate wildcats to play bball today.

Well this is an interesting change in events.

[sys]

http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/10/27/whats-the-biggest-driver-of-health-care-costs-our-personal-behaviors/

thanks.  doesn't really address the relative impact of dietary factors on us health care costs.  i'll see if i can find something with concrete numbers, either before or after the game.

[sys]

Well this is an interesting change in events.

they've always been mine, jakesie.  i'd scarcely get angry about some guy working for kstate running off the coach of somebody else's team.

[HeinBallz]

Yes, the previous system was working so well.

shut up you obamabot

I don't know if Obamacare is the answer.  Haven't studied it in depth or anything, but I've learned enough about the old system to know it was pretty mumped.  Is Obamacare better?   I think that will take time to see.

That seems to be the thoughts of all the people that:

...Haven't studied it in depth or anything...

 

[puniraptor]

I think the medical system needs to be #burnedtotheground an reimagined. Passing a law so many hate that slightly shakes up the status quo may increase the chance that happens.