RANKINGS...

[Kid In the Hall]

For consideration... we have never escaped September without a loss during the Klieman tenure.

[ben ji]

I see no way we don't go at least 10-2

[star seed 7]

We will lose to at least one team in the bottom quarter of the conference

[BIG APPLE CAT]

We will lose to at least one team in the bottom quarter of the conference

Man I wish that wasn’t true but man that’s true

[tdaver]

For consideration... we have never escaped September without a loss during the Klieman tenure.

Don’t forget about November

Last 4 regular season games:
2019 2-2, 8-4
2020 0-4, 4-6
2021 2-2, 7-5
2022 3-1, 9-3
2023 2-2, 8-4
2024 1-3, 8-4

Stumble down the stretch to 8-4.  That’s our MO.

[wetwillie]

I think we are headed for 9-3

[catastrophe]

Two losses in September and one in November sounds about right for us.

[CNS]

I don't know if there is enough beer in Ireland to comfort me after taking a cross Atlantic flight to watch a loss.  This is one of two reasons I am not going.  The other being legroom for a bagillion hours in the air. 

[CHONGS]

Can you imagine being on an international flight with all of those musty Iowa people?  Pee Yew.

It's too bad first class isn't smell isolated.

[wetwillie]

I assume Iowa state has like 9 fans that can afford the airfare

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Southwest doesn’t fly to Europe you’re good to go

[MakeItRain]

We will lose to at least one team in the bottom quarter of the conference

Man I wish that wasn’t true but man that’s true

That's college football. We aren't appreciably better than the teams in the bottom quarter of the conference so it stands to reason that losing to one of them is a possibility. If Ohio State, Texas, and Georgia struggle against mid ass teams, stands to reason that a team that's somewhere around the 15th-22nd best team in the country could lost to one that's kind of assy.

I don't get the mindset of thinking we have to go 11-1 or 10-2 but okay with not being preseason top 10. Indiana was 11-1 and finished 8th, they didn't see the AP poll until week 6. If we go 11-1 we will have a very Iowa State type season oif getting a lot of favorable bounces in 1 score wins. We aren't good enough to steamroll our way to the Big 12 championship game, no team in this conference is.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

We will lose to at least one team in the bottom quarter of the conference

Man I wish that wasn’t true but man that’s true

That's college football. We aren't appreciably better than the teams in the bottom quarter of the conference so it stands to reason that losing to one of them is a possibility. If Ohio State, Texas, and Georgia struggle against mid ass teams, stands to reason that a team that's somewhere around the 15th-22nd best team in the country could lost to one that's kind of assy.

I don't get the mindset of thinking we have to go 11-1 or 10-2 but okay with not being preseason top 10. Indiana was 11-1 and finished 8th, they didn't see the AP poll until week 6. If we go 11-1 we will have a very Iowa State type season oif getting a lot of favorable bounces in 1 score wins. We aren't good enough to steamroll our way to the Big 12 championship game, no team in this conference is.

I don’t necessarily disagree with any of that, but I think it has less to do with parity and more to do with painting a masterpiece one week and then the next we can’t even scribble inside the lines. And it’s not like we got out schemed it’s like we’re just tripping over our own dicks for no reason. I get that’s just how it goes sometimes, but for us it would be incredibly weird if that didn’t happen. The dick-tripping, specifically. Obviously there will be games we’re out gunned and out classed and of course we will get brushed aside. But you can bet every farm there’s going to be a game we’re -17.5 and end up losing by at least 2 scores

[wetwillie]

The national champions got beat at home in their final home game against a 6-5 team and scored 10 pts doing it

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Well, William that’s a rivalry game. And I’ll let you in on a little secret, when it comes to rivalry games you can throw those record books out the window

[goCats101]

Hopefully it’s not that type of year place kicking haunts us

[cfbandyman]

Hopefully it’s not that type of year place kicking haunts us

Geez facts. Really the entire special teams. I don't expect us to get back to LHC Bill Snyder 2.0 levels of special teams, but last year it was a decided negative. I just want us to be slightly positive. Just everything from missing FGs/XPs, to mid punting to mid punt returning probably cost us on average 3 points a game.

[cfbandyman]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

[nicname]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

SEC:
1. Texas
5. Georgia
8. Bama
9. LSU
13. SoCar
15. Florida
18. Oklahoma
19. ATM
21. Ole Miss
24. Tennessee

Big Ten:
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
7. Oregon
12. Illinois
14. Michigan
20. Indiana

ACC:
4. Clemson
10. Miami
16. SMU

B12:
11. Arizona St
17. Kansas St
22. Iowa St
23. Texas Tech

['taterblast]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

woof

[cfbandyman]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

SEC:
1. Texas
5. Georgia
8. Bama
9. LSU
13. SoCar
15. Florida
18. Oklahoma
19. ATM
21. Ole Miss
24. Tennessee

Big Ten:
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
7. Oregon
12. Illinois
14. Michigan
20. Indiana

ACC:
4. Clemson
10. Miami
16. SMU

B12:
11. Arizona St
17. Kansas St
22. Iowa St
23. Texas Tech

and Big 12 has 26th, 27th, and 28th

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

woof

How so?

[nicname]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

SEC:
1. Texas
5. Georgia
8. Bama
9. LSU
13. SoCar
15. Florida
18. Oklahoma
19. ATM
21. Ole Miss
24. Tennessee

Big Ten:
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
7. Oregon
12. Illinois
14. Michigan
20. Indiana

ACC:
4. Clemson
10. Miami
16. SMU

B12:
11. Arizona St
17. Kansas St
22. Iowa St
23. Texas Tech

and Big 12 has 26th, 27th, and 28th

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45925951/ap-college-football-preseason-poll-reaction

17th, kinda surprised how much higher than Coaches (I get it's only 3 spots just seems like a lot).

woof

How so?

Yeah, our conference really is a bloodbath.

[MakeItRain]

But you can bet every farm there’s going to be a game we’re -17.5 and end up losing by at least 2 scores

Ain't no way in hell you actually believe that. If so, make the bet with me. Klieman has lost 4 times as a double digit favorite, the scoring margins in those games were 5,7,4,4

[BIG APPLE CAT]

But you can bet every farm there’s going to be a game we’re -17.5 and end up losing by at least 2 scores

Ain't no way in hell you actually believe that. If so, make the bet with me. Klieman has lost 4 times as a double digit favorite, the scoring margins in those games were 5,7,4,4

Didn’t realize the spread against byu was only -7.5, thought we were double digit favorites in that one

[Stevesie60]

But you can bet every farm there’s going to be a game we’re -17.5 and end up losing by at least 2 scores

Ain't no way in hell you actually believe that. If so, make the bet with me. Klieman has lost 4 times as a double digit favorite, the scoring margins in those games were 5,7,4,4

Goddamn I love MIR. He's the logic that rains on every emotional overreaction's parade.

(To be clear, I was totally on board with BAC's stance until MIR responded)